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After thinking about it the draw was probably smart. With the phoenix involved Life would've been so hard pressed to keep the drone alive. On the other hand no way could the one void ray kill all those spores. Oh well coulda been worse
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I really hope IEM release the replays. There have been so many good games
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On August 31 2014 06:54 Keeemy wrote: I get what you people are saying but seriously there was no way Life was going to win it anymore. game 2 lives on in the form of a ridiculous theorycraft debate
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On August 31 2014 06:53 mikumegurine wrote: that drone has more HP too
cause you just pick it up in a overlord like medivac protecting a thor
but now you are doing that with a drone Doing all that micro and with the void ray shooting the overlord/drone and Life not being able to see the high ground if his overlord died
While all that is happening you actually don't mine any minerals
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On August 31 2014 06:52 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 06:50 andrewlt wrote: Life possibly could've microed his way to building enough drones to eventually tech up and kill First's army. However, it'll probably take longer than just winning 2 more games. but where would he put the tech buildings?
He could build spores alongside tech buildings. Like I said, it would take an extremely looooooooooooooooooong time.
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On August 31 2014 06:54 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 06:52 Darkhorse wrote:On August 31 2014 06:50 Zheryn wrote:On August 31 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Life wouldn't win, he'd have a mothership core and a void ray on each side of the hatchery, life would've never gotten mining up and they air army couldn't get the spores. They would both have buildings and not be able to kill each other. He could still mine at his hatchery protected by spores... Just watch the void ray and move drone away asap if void moves in. He gets to 50 minerals and he wins. how would he watch them though? He had no way to view high ground and void rays can reach that mineral line from the high ground safe from spores. He would have had to long distance mine because First wouldn't let him get a single mineral trip from that hatch, and if First found the drone long distance mining (still had a phoenix) First would have killed it I thought there was an overlord there, maybe I just imagined it. Well guess he didn't because then he could have just surrounded one mineral patch by spores and place the overlord on top of them for vision and win. My bad. There was an OL, remember he loaded the drones to reposition outside of the spore sim city.
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I would say with careful control, First could win because shield regens faster than zerg buildings, but then again First lost zeolots to drones
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On August 31 2014 06:55 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 06:54 Keeemy wrote: I get what you people are saying but seriously there was no way Life was going to win it anymore. game 2 lives on in the form of a ridiculous theorycraft debate
Parting vs MKP all over again except less obvious
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On August 31 2014 06:55 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 06:52 Die4Ever wrote:On August 31 2014 06:50 andrewlt wrote: Life possibly could've microed his way to building enough drones to eventually tech up and kill First's army. However, it'll probably take longer than just winning 2 more games. but where would he put the tech buildings? He could build spores alongside tech buildings. Like I said, it would take an extremely looooooooooooooooooong time. No way he could mine that much that he could both tech AND build more spores
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On August 31 2014 06:55 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 06:54 Zheryn wrote:On August 31 2014 06:52 Darkhorse wrote:On August 31 2014 06:50 Zheryn wrote:On August 31 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Life wouldn't win, he'd have a mothership core and a void ray on each side of the hatchery, life would've never gotten mining up and they air army couldn't get the spores. They would both have buildings and not be able to kill each other. He could still mine at his hatchery protected by spores... Just watch the void ray and move drone away asap if void moves in. He gets to 50 minerals and he wins. how would he watch them though? He had no way to view high ground and void rays can reach that mineral line from the high ground safe from spores. He would have had to long distance mine because First wouldn't let him get a single mineral trip from that hatch, and if First found the drone long distance mining (still had a phoenix) First would have killed it I thought there was an overlord there, maybe I just imagined it. Well guess he didn't because then he could have just surrounded one mineral patch by spores and place the overlord on top of them for vision and win. My bad. There was an OL, remember he loaded the drones to reposition outside of the spore sim city. Yeah but if the OL was close enough to see the high ground wouldn't it basically be close enough to die to a phoenix + VR?
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On August 31 2014 06:55 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 06:54 Zheryn wrote:On August 31 2014 06:52 Darkhorse wrote:On August 31 2014 06:50 Zheryn wrote:On August 31 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Life wouldn't win, he'd have a mothership core and a void ray on each side of the hatchery, life would've never gotten mining up and they air army couldn't get the spores. They would both have buildings and not be able to kill each other. He could still mine at his hatchery protected by spores... Just watch the void ray and move drone away asap if void moves in. He gets to 50 minerals and he wins. how would he watch them though? He had no way to view high ground and void rays can reach that mineral line from the high ground safe from spores. He would have had to long distance mine because First wouldn't let him get a single mineral trip from that hatch, and if First found the drone long distance mining (still had a phoenix) First would have killed it I thought there was an overlord there, maybe I just imagined it. Well guess he didn't because then he could have just surrounded one mineral patch by spores and place the overlord on top of them for vision and win. My bad. There was an OL, remember he loaded the drones to reposition outside of the spore sim city.
Uhm okay so what stops him from putting spores at a mineral patch and overlord on top and mine with one drone then?
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The only way to settle the debate is to get the replay, and resume from replay.
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i cant take anymore throws after snute and first
it kills me inside
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On August 31 2014 06:57 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 06:55 ssxsilver wrote:On August 31 2014 06:54 Zheryn wrote:On August 31 2014 06:52 Darkhorse wrote:On August 31 2014 06:50 Zheryn wrote:On August 31 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Life wouldn't win, he'd have a mothership core and a void ray on each side of the hatchery, life would've never gotten mining up and they air army couldn't get the spores. They would both have buildings and not be able to kill each other. He could still mine at his hatchery protected by spores... Just watch the void ray and move drone away asap if void moves in. He gets to 50 minerals and he wins. how would he watch them though? He had no way to view high ground and void rays can reach that mineral line from the high ground safe from spores. He would have had to long distance mine because First wouldn't let him get a single mineral trip from that hatch, and if First found the drone long distance mining (still had a phoenix) First would have killed it I thought there was an overlord there, maybe I just imagined it. Well guess he didn't because then he could have just surrounded one mineral patch by spores and place the overlord on top of them for vision and win. My bad. There was an OL, remember he loaded the drones to reposition outside of the spore sim city. Uhm okay so what stops him from putting spores at a mineral patch and overlord on top and mine with one drone then? I agree with you =P. Honestly I just think Life didn't want to bother wasting all that time.
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On August 31 2014 06:56 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 06:55 andrewlt wrote:On August 31 2014 06:52 Die4Ever wrote:On August 31 2014 06:50 andrewlt wrote: Life possibly could've microed his way to building enough drones to eventually tech up and kill First's army. However, it'll probably take longer than just winning 2 more games. but where would he put the tech buildings? He could build spores alongside tech buildings. Like I said, it would take an extremely looooooooooooooooooong time. No way he could mine that much that he could both tech AND build more spores
It would require First derping a lot. Technically possible but realistically not worth it. Draw is just a much better option.
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Life is building... swarmhosts
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Honestly after that big fucking fail from First he doesnt deserve to go through lol. That was some bronze league shit.
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Life going for SHs. Hope he has improved with them.
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