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Last quarterfinal (Zest - Yoda) to be played tomorrow along with the semifinals and finals.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
August 30 2014 21:52 GMT
#3941
On August 31 2014 06:50 andrewlt wrote:
Life possibly could've microed his way to building enough drones to eventually tech up and kill First's army. However, it'll probably take longer than just winning 2 more games.

but where would he put the tech buildings?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 30 2014 21:52 GMT
#3942
On August 31 2014 06:51 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:50 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:48 Keeemy wrote:
People should realize that there was no way for Life to win that and also there was no way for First to win. It was an obvious draw.

There's the chance that First botches something. He already made a series of bad decisions in that game.

The only way for him to lose was that he somehow lost all of his Void Rays without killing that 1 drone. That would never happen.

It was 1 VR, 1 MsC, 1 phoenix vs like 8+ spores, no? Couldn't he just reposition his spores around the mineral line.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 30 2014 21:52 GMT
#3943
On August 31 2014 06:51 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:50 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:48 Keeemy wrote:
People should realize that there was no way for Life to win that and also there was no way for First to win. It was an obvious draw.

There's the chance that First botches something. He already made a series of bad decisions in that game.

The only way for him to lose was that he somehow lost all of his Void Rays without killing that 1 drone. That would never happen.

There was only 1 void left i think
he already suicided all the others
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 30 2014 21:52 GMT
#3944
On August 31 2014 06:49 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:48 Keeemy wrote:
People should realize that there was no way for Life to win that and also there was no way for First to win. It was an obvious draw.


I disagree. Life could win if First messed up.

Well yeah both could have won if the other player made a HUUUUUUGEEEE mistake. A mistake like that doesn't happen at this level.


like losing zealots to drones and losing voidrays to immobile spores?
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 30 2014 21:52 GMT
#3945
What happened to the 2nd phoenix? There were two killing the zerklings after mutas died.
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3946
On August 31 2014 06:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:49 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:48 Lorning wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:47 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend Life vs First Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
2%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
 
3%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (166)
 
95%

175 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Life vs First Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season



-.- 1 star?


Somebody hates fun!

probably a terran
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3947
Btw First only had 1 void ray with 12 hps in the end.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3948
On August 31 2014 06:51 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:50 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:48 Keeemy wrote:
People should realize that there was no way for Life to win that and also there was no way for First to win. It was an obvious draw.

There's the chance that First botches something. He already made a series of bad decisions in that game.

The only way for him to lose was that he somehow lost all of his Void Rays without killing that 1 drone. That would never happen.

He lost two void rays when he stopped controlling them and they floated into the spores. So yeah, it could happen.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3949
On August 31 2014 06:52 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:51 Keeemy wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:50 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:48 Keeemy wrote:
People should realize that there was no way for Life to win that and also there was no way for First to win. It was an obvious draw.

There's the chance that First botches something. He already made a series of bad decisions in that game.

The only way for him to lose was that he somehow lost all of his Void Rays without killing that 1 drone. That would never happen.

It was 1 VR, 1 MsC, 1 phoenix vs like 8+ spores, no? Couldn't he just reposition his spores around the mineral line.


no high ground vision, i think the voidrays can camp the mineral line and if the drone long distance mine there is phoenix.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3950
On August 31 2014 06:52 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:49 Keeemy wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:48 Keeemy wrote:
People should realize that there was no way for Life to win that and also there was no way for First to win. It was an obvious draw.


I disagree. Life could win if First messed up.

Well yeah both could have won if the other player made a HUUUUUUGEEEE mistake. A mistake like that doesn't happen at this level.


like losing zealots to drones and losing voidrays to immobile spores?

Life makes people do crazy things sometimes.

Take that as Life the player or life in general either way
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3951
On August 31 2014 06:52 Kreb wrote:
What happened to the 2nd phoenix? There were two killing the zerklings after mutas died.

Died to spores afaik.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3952
On August 31 2014 06:46 andrewlt wrote:
LOL, First could've suicided his void rays slowly to kill the drones. He just needed to keep the zealot alive.

he could tank shots with the carriers while stacking the void rays with spam clicking on one point under them and boosting down the spores...
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3953
that drone has more HP too

cause you just pick it up in a overlord like medivac protecting a thor

but now you are doing that with a drone
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3954
The last game drained me of my energy. What an unbelievable scenario in a tournament setting, but I guess it takes pros to make what happened, happen.

Life is a god of micro. First worst decision maker LOL
rip passion
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3955
On August 31 2014 06:53 Binky1842 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:49 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:48 Lorning wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:47 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend Life vs First Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
2%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
 
3%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (166)
 
95%

175 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Life vs First Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season



-.- 1 star?


Somebody hates fun!

probably a terran

Or Sniper
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3956
On August 31 2014 06:52 Kreb wrote:
What happened to the 2nd phoenix? There were two killing the zerklings after mutas died.


One died to a spore.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3957
"Less motivated to go Swarmhosts on cross spawn".
Not for Snute against herO!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#3958
On August 31 2014 06:53 KingAlphard wrote:
Btw First only had 1 void ray with 12 hps in the end.

Shields regen though
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 30 2014 21:54 GMT
#3959
On August 31 2014 06:52 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:50 Zheryn wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Life wouldn't win, he'd have a mothership core and a void ray on each side of the hatchery, life would've never gotten mining up and they air army couldn't get the spores. They would both have buildings and not be able to kill each other.


He could still mine at his hatchery protected by spores... Just watch the void ray and move drone away asap if void moves in. He gets to 50 minerals and he wins.

how would he watch them though? He had no way to view high ground and void rays can reach that mineral line from the high ground safe from spores. He would have had to long distance mine because First wouldn't let him get a single mineral trip from that hatch, and if First found the drone long distance mining (still had a phoenix) First would have killed it


I thought there was an overlord there, maybe I just imagined it. Well guess he didn't because then he could have just surrounded one mineral patch by spores and place the overlord on top of them for vision and win. My bad.
hundred thousand krouner
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
August 30 2014 21:54 GMT
#3960
I get what you people are saying but seriously there was no way Life was going to win it anymore.
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