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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#2301
On August 29 2014 08:41 brickrd wrote:
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On August 29 2014 08:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Lol everyone who wanted the Jaedong Flash finals by the way.

those people are called flash fans

Ofc, i'd enjoy Flash beating JD without loosing a map
but there are certainly more exciting finals possible
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#2302
On August 29 2014 08:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On August 29 2014 08:34 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:33 NexUmbra wrote:
So how long overall were all of those games together?

approx. one avilo tvz


approx. half of a Goody game.



kids today. They have no idea how to play a proper macro game

--- FireCake


They sure don't

--- MaNa


Terran forever | Maru hater forever
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#2303
On August 29 2014 08:43 Ace Frehley wrote:
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On August 29 2014 08:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Lol everyone who wanted the Jaedong Flash finals by the way.

They want Flash to have a chance to win a tournament


Too bad. He's in a group with Scarlett! :3
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#2304
On August 29 2014 08:42 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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On August 29 2014 08:41 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:39 Fionn wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:37 Yorkie wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:36 stuchiu wrote:
I find it funny that WCS has somehow done it and improved EU/NA play

LCS take notes


eu/na don't need to be better

they just need to be separated from koreans and chinese for 99% of the year so fans believe there is a chance they'll win. then they don't. then there is a break, the hopes are lifted again, and then crushed.

it is a good system

people enjoyed wcs 2012 as well

By people you mean Europeans. The North American WCS was terrible.

Anyone else remember Insur? Seemed like he was getting good then bang he is gone

Who the fuck is Insur

American Protoss player that made WCS Finals in 2012. Seemed like he was up and coming but I know he was in school and I think he stopped playing competitively idk
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#2305
oh damn it snute, bunny vs huk was supposed to start like two hours ago T_T
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#2306
On August 29 2014 08:42 Circumstance wrote:
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On August 29 2014 08:41 Elite_ wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:40 GolemMadness wrote:
Wait, Huk 2-0ed Jaedong...?

4gate vs. 3hatch before pool imba.


If you play greedy against Huk, you deserve what's coming to you.

im pretty sure if they 3hatch in gsl all the time its not because they dont have to deal with the Hukkernaut lol. jaedong just didnt play well enough
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#2307
(P)StarDust vs (P)herO[jOin] on B stream
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 28 2014 23:44 GMT
#2308
You can tell Life slept through that.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2309
Lifeuuuu!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2310
I am showing StarDust vs herO as well
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2311
This guy is just not very hype :/
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
well-rounded-comrade
Profile Joined July 2014
Poland24 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2312
On August 29 2014 08:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
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On August 29 2014 08:38 well-rounded-comrade wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:30 Yorkie wrote:
Original Message From Grumbels:
That's one of the saddest things I've ever read. Have fun with your stockholm syndrome.

On August 29 2014 08:08 Yorkie wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:06 Grumbels wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:05 brickrd wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:04 Grumbels wrote:
I don't understand how people can like this and call this "exciting aggressive swarm host play".

no one does? lol? snute has different SH styles. game 1 was mass hydra with a muta switch and a lot of aggression. against the other hero at DH/IEM a while back he used upgraded lings. no one calls mass spore crawling aggressive or exciting.

even the swarm host styles in g1/2 is awful though. don't act like g3 is somehow different enough that you can't generalize over these games

The first game was very exciting to a lot of us. You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean all SH games are bad for everyone


Guys I have Stockholm Syndrome



They were so boring I didn't even notice the difference.

No but really, apart from unexciting dynamics of the games (which is debatable maybe, but I don't know how someone can enjoy watching 100000 locusts that you can't even be microed all that much..), games involving SH mostly tend to just show one player slowly dying for an hour. Nothing feels exciting when dragged out for so long.

The first game and the second game (untill the final 10-15 mins) had loads of repositiong and aggressive swarmhost moves. It's really tactical. Locust still need to be controlled correctly to be usefull. Splitting them up, send them different paths etc. The last game was well, Snute said himself boring.



This is however difficult to observe/acknowledge, I would probably need to learn to play Zerg SH style to really appreciate even those 2 games, which you say were good.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2313
On August 29 2014 08:25 Noonius wrote:
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On August 29 2014 08:24 fmod wrote:
So many 1 stars.. people are mad?


watching an hour of free units roaming around aint what sc is suppose to be


Sorry for quoting you as a placeholder for everybody else downvoting this game, but your comment sums up pretty well what people are complaing about without actually taking into account what happened in this game.
Normally, I'd agree that swarmhost games are boring as hell, but this game had quite a few features that made it fall far from the ordinary.
First of all, there is a huge difference between SH games on 2 player maps and 4 player maps. On a smaller map, SH basically cut off any opportunies toss has: any mobility on the map is killed for P since SH can control the whole middle; taking expos becomes more or less impossible since locust can reach any expo after the 2nd from a decent position in the middle; harrassment is difficult since there really are not many places to attack.
On that huge map though, Protoss had all options available to him. This made for exciting multiplaced action all over the map, which snute had to deflect with a lot of multitasking and split-second decision making since his SH were not in the capable of covering such a huge terrain. At the same time Snute also went for a huge gamble going up to 113 drones in order to execute his plan while being in danger of getting killed by harrassment or a deathball twice the size of his own army.
Focused creep spread while under constant harrassment, a fairly good retainment of his corruptor count and the final switch from basically full economy to full army, which can be seen as a late game all-in, was something you do not see that often.

TL;DR
SH ZvP tends to be boring as hell, but this game was far from the ordinary and simply a delight to watch.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2314
On August 29 2014 08:44 Dingodile wrote:
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On August 29 2014 08:40 brickrd wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:39 Dingodile wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:35 TheAngryZergling wrote:
getting pretty pissed at redeye's constant shitting on swarmhost play. that series was very intense and had very few moments that could be labeled as dull by anybody trying to follow the thread of each players thoughts, y'know ... actually paying attention.

How is this intense if the biggest bullshit army from both races clashes? "Back and forth" didnt exist at 3rd map.

at what point are we going to stop trying to argue with people about whether theyre allowed to enjoy something?

caster are also not allowed to shitting that?

What?
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10102 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2315
is Life tall or Snute short?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2316
On August 29 2014 08:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 08:43 Ace Frehley wrote:
On August 29 2014 08:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Lol everyone who wanted the Jaedong Flash finals by the way.

They want Flash to have a chance to win a tournament


Too bad. He's in a group with Scarlett! :3

I cannot wait to see Scarlett beat Flash.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
August 28 2014 23:45 GMT
#2317
Man if herO gets eliminated I'm in trouble for that esl fantasy.. With Jaedong already gone I can't lose anymore this early before even points round T.T Yoda and Flash have to carry hard for me...
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 28 2014 23:46 GMT
#2318
i have rotti stream sound on but minimized with redeye on the other stream talking, its pretty funny
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2014 23:46 GMT
#2319
Does HuK have a chance vs Bunny?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 28 2014 23:46 GMT
#2320
On August 29 2014 08:45 Topin wrote:
is Life tall or Snute short?


Both are short.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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