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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 23 2014 22:40 GMT
#981
Oh he needed those infestors. That' s a huge loss
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 23 2014 22:40 GMT
#982
Stardust should be fine as he keeps chipping away at Kane
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Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
August 23 2014 22:41 GMT
#983
Damn upgraded Phoenix are fuckin' scary.
Don't be asshats
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 23 2014 22:41 GMT
#984
Ah yes the Ultralisks. Surely Kane is gonna lose now.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
August 23 2014 22:41 GMT
#985
On August 24 2014 07:38 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:36 Larkin wrote:
Kane why would you muta after this

because he still has enough corruptors for this to be muta/corruptor instead of a yolo muta switch into phoenixes

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:37 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:33 brickrd wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:32 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:31 brickrd wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:29 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:23 Squat wrote:
I didn't say it was terrible, all I'm saying is that it has a lot of holes that can be exploited if the style is done imperfectly.

That's not what you said at all. You said it just loses unless you were ahead. The two statements are not interchangable.


The whole build depends on doing lots of muta damage and if you don't get ahead in that stage then it gets crushed. It does lose if you don't get ahead.

How can you know that? You get 4 bases while containing your opponent on 3 just because of mutas, then all you have to do is hold a big attack.
Holding harass is just a matter of skill and multitasking, not the build. You have mutas and lings/well-placed broodlords/spines.

lol getting 4 bases and not dying to a 3 base push on muta tech is not a given at all

...you have broodlords to hold the big 3 base roach hydra infestor push. They end during/just before the attack.

yes and if youre terran you have bunkers and siege tanks to hold 1/1 roach this is a silly conversation. "the brood lords magically finish at the right time in the right numbers so it works"

They finish around 14 minutes if you do the build right, where you're dropping the infestation pit right after first mutas. And that's when roach/hydra/infestor push hits

starcraft is not played on paper and if it were as simple as "do the build right and defend" then koreans would be using it left and right. im just asking you to be reasonable instead of implying that you cant crush the shit out of it by playing better early and hitting a good timing

I said that Scarlett played worse than Leenock, so she lost with it, so I don't know what you're talking about. I have never implied that you can't kill it, lol. I'm saying that it can work and doesn't depend on dealing early damage.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 23 2014 22:41 GMT
#986
kanes next remax is going to have to be good
TL+ Member
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 23 2014 22:42 GMT
#987
This game is a mess. I love it!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 23 2014 22:42 GMT
#988
This game is getting epic
I Protoss winner, could it be?
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 23 2014 22:42 GMT
#989
On August 24 2014 07:41 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:38 brickrd wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:36 Larkin wrote:
Kane why would you muta after this

because he still has enough corruptors for this to be muta/corruptor instead of a yolo muta switch into phoenixes

On August 24 2014 07:37 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:33 brickrd wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:32 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:31 brickrd wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:29 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:23 Squat wrote:
I didn't say it was terrible, all I'm saying is that it has a lot of holes that can be exploited if the style is done imperfectly.

That's not what you said at all. You said it just loses unless you were ahead. The two statements are not interchangable.


The whole build depends on doing lots of muta damage and if you don't get ahead in that stage then it gets crushed. It does lose if you don't get ahead.

How can you know that? You get 4 bases while containing your opponent on 3 just because of mutas, then all you have to do is hold a big attack.
Holding harass is just a matter of skill and multitasking, not the build. You have mutas and lings/well-placed broodlords/spines.

lol getting 4 bases and not dying to a 3 base push on muta tech is not a given at all

...you have broodlords to hold the big 3 base roach hydra infestor push. They end during/just before the attack.

yes and if youre terran you have bunkers and siege tanks to hold 1/1 roach this is a silly conversation. "the brood lords magically finish at the right time in the right numbers so it works"

They finish around 14 minutes if you do the build right, where you're dropping the infestation pit right after first mutas. And that's when roach/hydra/infestor push hits

starcraft is not played on paper and if it were as simple as "do the build right and defend" then koreans would be using it left and right. im just asking you to be reasonable instead of implying that you cant crush the shit out of it by playing better early and hitting a good timing

I said that Scarlett played worse than Leenock, so she lost with it, so I don't know what you're talking about. I have never implied that you can't kill it, lol. I'm saying that it can work and doesn't depend on dealing early damage.

i said "getting 4 bases and defending is not a given" and you said "the brood lords finish early enough to defend" so maybe you should pay more attention to what you are saying
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Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
August 23 2014 22:42 GMT
#990
Well that happened...
Don't be asshats
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
August 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#991
That was a great game... Then Kane suicided himself.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
August 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#992
god kane wtf
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
August 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#993
Ugh the death ball.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#994
Dat Protoss ball
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#995
Kane just went ultra full foreigner. wtf...
Don't mind me
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#996
Wow grats to Petreaus! :D
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#997
Kane took that battle about as worse as possible. He could have done that
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 23 2014 22:44 GMT
#998
On August 24 2014 07:43 ptbl wrote:
Kane just went ultra full foreigner. wtf...

well he is a mid tier foreigner so im not sure why we should be surprised

he played really well and stardust's experience won out in the long game, pretty much what you could expect
TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12533 Posts
August 23 2014 22:44 GMT
#999
Looks like we'll get the Stardust Snute rematch as promised
No will to live, no wish to die
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
August 23 2014 22:45 GMT
#1000
On August 24 2014 07:42 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:41 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:38 brickrd wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:36 Larkin wrote:
Kane why would you muta after this

because he still has enough corruptors for this to be muta/corruptor instead of a yolo muta switch into phoenixes

On August 24 2014 07:37 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:33 brickrd wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:32 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:31 brickrd wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:29 Alchemik wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:23 Squat wrote:
[quote]
That's not what you said at all. You said it just loses unless you were ahead. The two statements are not interchangable.


The whole build depends on doing lots of muta damage and if you don't get ahead in that stage then it gets crushed. It does lose if you don't get ahead.

How can you know that? You get 4 bases while containing your opponent on 3 just because of mutas, then all you have to do is hold a big attack.
Holding harass is just a matter of skill and multitasking, not the build. You have mutas and lings/well-placed broodlords/spines.

lol getting 4 bases and not dying to a 3 base push on muta tech is not a given at all

...you have broodlords to hold the big 3 base roach hydra infestor push. They end during/just before the attack.

yes and if youre terran you have bunkers and siege tanks to hold 1/1 roach this is a silly conversation. "the brood lords magically finish at the right time in the right numbers so it works"

They finish around 14 minutes if you do the build right, where you're dropping the infestation pit right after first mutas. And that's when roach/hydra/infestor push hits

starcraft is not played on paper and if it were as simple as "do the build right and defend" then koreans would be using it left and right. im just asking you to be reasonable instead of implying that you cant crush the shit out of it by playing better early and hitting a good timing

I said that Scarlett played worse than Leenock, so she lost with it, so I don't know what you're talking about. I have never implied that you can't kill it, lol. I'm saying that it can work and doesn't depend on dealing early damage.

i said "getting 4 bases and defending is not a given" and you said "the brood lords finish early enough to defend" so maybe you should pay more attention to what you are saying

? So? They do finish early enough, that doesn't mean you will hold, that means you can hold if you're playing well enough and if you're not behind. Still, didn't say that there's no way to kill it if you're just a better player.
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