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On August 04 2014 01:22 Thezzy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:20 TheDwf wrote:On August 04 2014 01:19 Thezzy wrote:
Even though Oracles do die faster (160HP vs 250HP on a Void Ray), they do 28 DPS per unit against a Hydra vs 12 DPS for a Void Ray. They are also much faster so they could be microed back more easily.
Oracles can also be produced a little faster (50 seconds vs 60 seconds for a Void Ray) and leave more minerals for Zealots.
I think a mix between Void Rays and Oracles would've done better than pure Void Ray. 4 range vs 6. Hmmm, would that make that much of a difference given Oracles deal 2.5x the damage (and they can close the distance pretty fast) and you'd have a few more Zealots on the ground?
Ask some ZvP expert, but this likely means hydras can shift focus Oracles and kill them before Protoss has even the time to micro them back.
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I fear a 4-0 but hope Bunny will put up a good fight!
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On August 04 2014 01:22 Thezzy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:20 TheDwf wrote:On August 04 2014 01:19 Thezzy wrote:
Even though Oracles do die faster (160HP vs 250HP on a Void Ray), they do 28 DPS per unit against a Hydra vs 12 DPS for a Void Ray. They are also much faster so they could be microed back more easily.
Oracles can also be produced a little faster (50 seconds vs 60 seconds for a Void Ray) and leave more minerals for Zealots.
I think a mix between Void Rays and Oracles would've done better than pure Void Ray. 4 range vs 6. Hmmm, would that make that much of a difference given Oracles deal 2.5x the damage (and they can close the distance pretty fast) and you'd have a few more Zealots on the ground?
oracles also dont attack air so they useless later and their attacks are an active ability which is not very reliable
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On August 04 2014 01:23 -KG- wrote:
I fear a 4-0 but hope Bunny will put up a good fight!
Unfortunately Bunny is 1-5 in series and 4-9 in maps against HyuN
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On August 04 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:22 Thezzy wrote:On August 04 2014 01:20 TheDwf wrote:On August 04 2014 01:19 Thezzy wrote:
Even though Oracles do die faster (160HP vs 250HP on a Void Ray), they do 28 DPS per unit against a Hydra vs 12 DPS for a Void Ray. They are also much faster so they could be microed back more easily.
Oracles can also be produced a little faster (50 seconds vs 60 seconds for a Void Ray) and leave more minerals for Zealots.
I think a mix between Void Rays and Oracles would've done better than pure Void Ray. 4 range vs 6. Hmmm, would that make that much of a difference given Oracles deal 2.5x the damage (and they can close the distance pretty fast) and you'd have a few more Zealots on the ground? Ask some ZvP expert, but this likely means hydras can shift focus Oracles and kill them before Protoss has even the time to micro them back.
Yeah, this is probably going to far into theorycrafting here.
I haven't seen mass Oracle a lot so there's probably a good reason for that.
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On August 04 2014 01:26 Thezzy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:On August 04 2014 01:22 Thezzy wrote:On August 04 2014 01:20 TheDwf wrote:On August 04 2014 01:19 Thezzy wrote:
Even though Oracles do die faster (160HP vs 250HP on a Void Ray), they do 28 DPS per unit against a Hydra vs 12 DPS for a Void Ray. They are also much faster so they could be microed back more easily.
Oracles can also be produced a little faster (50 seconds vs 60 seconds for a Void Ray) and leave more minerals for Zealots.
I think a mix between Void Rays and Oracles would've done better than pure Void Ray. 4 range vs 6. Hmmm, would that make that much of a difference given Oracles deal 2.5x the damage (and they can close the distance pretty fast) and you'd have a few more Zealots on the ground? Ask some ZvP expert, but this likely means hydras can shift focus Oracles and kill them before Protoss has even the time to micro them back. Yeah, this is probably going to far into theorycrafting here. I haven't seen mass Oracle a lot so there's probably a good reason for that.
Oracle are insanely strong but made of paper so they aren't an option for late game compo.
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Would this be the biggest prize pool won by a non-Korean Terran if Bunny won?
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On August 04 2014 01:13 kaykoose wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:09 Ace Frehley wrote:On August 04 2014 01:02 SatedSC2 wrote:On August 04 2014 01:01 Crot4le wrote:
Almost 30k viewers is actually quite pleasing when you consider how little this tournament was promoted and the fact that Liquipedia didn't even class it as a major tournament. I wonder what the reason for it not being classed as a premier tournament is, given the prize-pool and WCS points on offer. This tournament is almost an invitational (9 out of 12 invites) Premier status to a tournament like this is kind oif ridiculous in my opinion (The same goes to those ASUS ROG thing, that had like 80/90% of invites) Throw in HSC then
I would, if I was the one who decided things 
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WCS Predictor 2014Gfinity G3 starts in -   HyuN is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 59.6 % of the time HyuN wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %. ~ 40.4 % of the time HyuN loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %. ------------------------------------------------- -   Bunny is at ~ 6.88 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014 ~ 40.4 % of the time Bunny wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 7.94 %. ~ 59.6 % of the time Bunny loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 6.15 %.
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On August 04 2014 01:28 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:26 Thezzy wrote:On August 04 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:On August 04 2014 01:22 Thezzy wrote:On August 04 2014 01:20 TheDwf wrote:On August 04 2014 01:19 Thezzy wrote:
Even though Oracles do die faster (160HP vs 250HP on a Void Ray), they do 28 DPS per unit against a Hydra vs 12 DPS for a Void Ray. They are also much faster so they could be microed back more easily.
Oracles can also be produced a little faster (50 seconds vs 60 seconds for a Void Ray) and leave more minerals for Zealots.
I think a mix between Void Rays and Oracles would've done better than pure Void Ray. 4 range vs 6. Hmmm, would that make that much of a difference given Oracles deal 2.5x the damage (and they can close the distance pretty fast) and you'd have a few more Zealots on the ground? Ask some ZvP expert, but this likely means hydras can shift focus Oracles and kill them before Protoss has even the time to micro them back. Yeah, this is probably going to far into theorycrafting here. I haven't seen mass Oracle a lot so there's probably a good reason for that. Oracle are insanely strong but made of paper so they aren't an option for late game compo.
A few Corruptors probably rek them pretty easily. But it might be interesting if the Oracles are unscouted and you go for one big death push
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Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use.
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On August 04 2014 01:30 Zheryn wrote:
Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use.
It's in 30 mins
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On August 04 2014 01:28 TheDougler wrote:
Would this be the biggest prize pool won by a non-Korean Terran if Bunny won?
After looking up some stuff I believe that you're right. The first currently is Thorzain's win in TSL3 followed by, depending on exchange rate, Naama's DH 2010 victory.
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On August 04 2014 01:30 Zheryn wrote:
Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use.
BECAUSE DAMMIT THE ENGLISH INVENTED TIME
it's not hard to use a time zone converter.
And countdowns get awkward when you get to 0 and nothing happens.
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On August 04 2014 01:39 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:30 Zheryn wrote:
Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use. BECAUSE DAMMIT THE ENGLISH INVENTED TIME it's not hard to use a time zone converter. And countdowns get awkward when you get to 0 and nothing happens.
haha the awkward 0:00 countdown, best answer
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On August 04 2014 01:39 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:30 Zheryn wrote:
Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use. BECAUSE DAMMIT THE ENGLISH INVENTED TIME it's not hard to use a time zone converter. And countdowns get awkward when you get to 0 and nothing happens.
Rule Britannia
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On August 04 2014 01:39 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:30 Zheryn wrote:
Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use. BECAUSE DAMMIT THE ENGLISH INVENTED TIME it's not hard to use a time zone converter. And countdowns get awkward when you get to 0 and nothing happens.
Wow, you are weak, goddamn weak.
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On August 04 2014 01:43 Kimb3r wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:39 Larkin wrote:On August 04 2014 01:30 Zheryn wrote:
Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use. BECAUSE DAMMIT THE ENGLISH INVENTED TIME it's not hard to use a time zone converter. And countdowns get awkward when you get to 0 and nothing happens. Wow, you are weak, goddamn weak.
Wh-what?
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On August 04 2014 01:46 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:43 Kimb3r wrote:On August 04 2014 01:39 Larkin wrote:On August 04 2014 01:30 Zheryn wrote:
Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use. BECAUSE DAMMIT THE ENGLISH INVENTED TIME it's not hard to use a time zone converter. And countdowns get awkward when you get to 0 and nothing happens. Wow, you are weak, goddamn weak. Wh-what?
You are weak because of your timezone. Isn't it obvious? :D
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On August 04 2014 01:50 Niko_Thien wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 01:46 Larkin wrote:On August 04 2014 01:43 Kimb3r wrote:On August 04 2014 01:39 Larkin wrote:On August 04 2014 01:30 Zheryn wrote:
Why some tournament/streams doesn't add a countdown for next game instead of writing out the time in a timezone that a lot of people don't use. BECAUSE DAMMIT THE ENGLISH INVENTED TIME it's not hard to use a time zone converter. And countdowns get awkward when you get to 0 and nothing happens. Wow, you are weak, goddamn weak. Wh-what? You are weak because of your timezone. Isn't it obvious? :D
Me personally or the English? O.o
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