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BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
July 17 2014 22:19 GMT
#61
On July 18 2014 06:41 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 06:33 olimoley wrote:
On July 18 2014 06:28 Crot4le wrote:
On July 17 2014 06:01 olimoley wrote:

Rules and Regulations





By the way I think I may have found a little error in the document.

On the first page it says

Default server: KR
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is KR


(emphasis mine)

But on the body of text under 'server' on page two it says:

If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA


Unless I'm missing something (if I am sorry and kindly disregard this post lol) shouldn't the last point says "if player 1 is in NA and player 2 is in KR default server is NA" again no?


You are right, I've changed to reflect the correct version. If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, they should play on NA server to ensure crippling lag doesn't affect the game results.


Lag from NA to KR and KR to NA is usually about the same, I'd suggest a coinflip to determine which and of course, alternate if it's BO3.


Just an opinion, and I know it's the unpopular one, but since all the other tournaments do it, maybe it's time we gave the Koreans a break: if it's a Korean weekly, favourtism should go towards the Korean server, no?
Commentator
olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
July 17 2014 22:20 GMT
#62
On July 18 2014 06:41 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 06:33 olimoley wrote:
On July 18 2014 06:28 Crot4le wrote:
On July 17 2014 06:01 olimoley wrote:

Rules and Regulations





By the way I think I may have found a little error in the document.

On the first page it says

Default server: KR
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is KR


(emphasis mine)

But on the body of text under 'server' on page two it says:

If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA


Unless I'm missing something (if I am sorry and kindly disregard this post lol) shouldn't the last point says "if player 1 is in NA and player 2 is in KR default server is NA" again no?


You are right, I've changed to reflect the correct version. If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, they should play on NA server to ensure crippling lag doesn't affect the game results.


Lag from NA to KR and KR to NA is usually about the same, I'd suggest a coinflip to determine which and of course, alternate if it's BO3.

Is the lag really the same?

If thats the case I think the default should just be KR since it is a KR tournament, and maybe a coinflip/alternate for bo3 or bo5. However regardless of if it's a KR tournament or not I want to be fair to all participants, so I'll try to figure out and solidify the rules by July 26th.
Events Manager, Team Liquid - Creator of OlimoLeague
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
July 17 2014 22:27 GMT
#63
On July 18 2014 07:19 BasetradeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 06:41 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 18 2014 06:33 olimoley wrote:
On July 18 2014 06:28 Crot4le wrote:
On July 17 2014 06:01 olimoley wrote:

Rules and Regulations





By the way I think I may have found a little error in the document.

On the first page it says

Default server: KR
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is KR


(emphasis mine)

But on the body of text under 'server' on page two it says:

If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA


Unless I'm missing something (if I am sorry and kindly disregard this post lol) shouldn't the last point says "if player 1 is in NA and player 2 is in KR default server is NA" again no?


You are right, I've changed to reflect the correct version. If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, they should play on NA server to ensure crippling lag doesn't affect the game results.


Lag from NA to KR and KR to NA is usually about the same, I'd suggest a coinflip to determine which and of course, alternate if it's BO3.


Just an opinion, and I know it's the unpopular one, but since all the other tournaments do it, maybe it's time we gave the Koreans a break: if it's a Korean weekly, favourtism should go towards the Korean server, no?


I totally agree with this. It is a Korean weekly, so I feel it should be on KR.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
July 17 2014 23:19 GMT
#64
On July 18 2014 07:20 olimoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 06:41 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 18 2014 06:33 olimoley wrote:
On July 18 2014 06:28 Crot4le wrote:
On July 17 2014 06:01 olimoley wrote:

Rules and Regulations





By the way I think I may have found a little error in the document.

On the first page it says

Default server: KR
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is KR


(emphasis mine)

But on the body of text under 'server' on page two it says:

If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA


Unless I'm missing something (if I am sorry and kindly disregard this post lol) shouldn't the last point says "if player 1 is in NA and player 2 is in KR default server is NA" again no?


You are right, I've changed to reflect the correct version. If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, they should play on NA server to ensure crippling lag doesn't affect the game results.


Lag from NA to KR and KR to NA is usually about the same, I'd suggest a coinflip to determine which and of course, alternate if it's BO3.

Is the lag really the same?

If thats the case I think the default should just be KR since it is a KR tournament, and maybe a coinflip/alternate for bo3 or bo5. However regardless of if it's a KR tournament or not I want to be fair to all participants, so I'll try to figure out and solidify the rules by July 26th.


Just my personal opinion (not as your boss), I think that you're better off sticking to KR server. It doesn't seem right to give an American player an advantage especially in a BO1 where anything can happen, when the tournament is aimed at supporting the Korean scene.

I'd perhaps alternate BO3/BO5 if it got to that point and default the BO1s to KR only.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 17 2014 23:53 GMT
#65
On July 18 2014 07:19 BasetradeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 06:41 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 18 2014 06:33 olimoley wrote:
On July 18 2014 06:28 Crot4le wrote:
On July 17 2014 06:01 olimoley wrote:

Rules and Regulations





By the way I think I may have found a little error in the document.

On the first page it says

Default server: KR
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is KR


(emphasis mine)

But on the body of text under 'server' on page two it says:

If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in EU and Player 2 is in EU, default server is EU
If player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in NA, default server is NA
If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is NA


Unless I'm missing something (if I am sorry and kindly disregard this post lol) shouldn't the last point says "if player 1 is in NA and player 2 is in KR default server is NA" again no?


You are right, I've changed to reflect the correct version. If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, they should play on NA server to ensure crippling lag doesn't affect the game results.


Lag from NA to KR and KR to NA is usually about the same, I'd suggest a coinflip to determine which and of course, alternate if it's BO3.


Just an opinion, and I know it's the unpopular one, but since all the other tournaments do it, maybe it's time we gave the Koreans a break: if it's a Korean weekly, favourtism should go towards the Korean server, no?


i'd support that. And btw a huge thank for being awesome.
Zest fanboy.
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
July 17 2014 23:55 GMT
#66
Lol? I completely do not understand why in a tournament to support the Korean scene, the games should be played on an NA server, when a player is from NA. They have so many tournaments, qualifiers right now, and how TB says, the only KR-tournament, where its Bo1, should be played on NA, if a NA-player participates. It completely does not make sense to me.
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olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
July 18 2014 01:12 GMT
#67
Rule has been changed:

If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is KR
Events Manager, Team Liquid - Creator of OlimoLeague
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
July 18 2014 01:30 GMT
#68
On July 18 2014 10:12 olimoley wrote:
Rule has been changed:

If Player 1 is in NA and Player 2 is in KR, default server is KR

Ahh good, i was skimming through earlier, somewhat confused as to why KR didn't get the advantage in every instance if it's a KR league.

Glad to see something like this again! GL GL GL GL
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Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
July 18 2014 03:06 GMT
#69
I really hope the Korean players care about playing in this

I remember in the last days of ESV Korean weekly, only B-teamers of zenex and NSHS were playing, kind of killed the hype
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
July 18 2014 03:19 GMT
#70
On July 18 2014 12:06 Ace Frehley wrote:
I really hope the Korean players care about playing in this

I remember in the last days of ESV Korean weekly, only B-teamers of zenex and NSHS were playing, kind of killed the hype


Well I certainly wouldn't expect people with Code S or Proleague games coming up to reveal builds in an event like this, but bear in mind, ESV weeklys were where players like Taeja got their start. We want the next Taeja.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 03:39:46
July 18 2014 03:38 GMT
#71
On July 18 2014 12:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 12:06 Ace Frehley wrote:
I really hope the Korean players care about playing in this

I remember in the last days of ESV Korean weekly, only B-teamers of zenex and NSHS were playing, kind of killed the hype


Well I certainly wouldn't expect people with Code S or Proleague games coming up to reveal builds in an event like this, but bear in mind, ESV weeklys were where players like Taeja got their start. We want the next Taeja.


Of course, I don't expect any code S player to play here (Maybe players like Solar or Stork, who I've seem playing small cups on-line before).

I followed ESV cup almost every week. But near the last days, it was literally only these two teams (nshs and zenex) who participated. Some times FXO

Prime, Ogs, IM, MVP, Slayers, Startale didn't have even 1 player playing there, not even code B players. It was no fun watching Taeja stomping on completely unknown players


I hope this works, though. At least I hope Prime, MVP or IM participate

...
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
July 18 2014 03:47 GMT
#72
On July 18 2014 12:38 Ace Frehley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 12:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 18 2014 12:06 Ace Frehley wrote:
I really hope the Korean players care about playing in this

I remember in the last days of ESV Korean weekly, only B-teamers of zenex and NSHS were playing, kind of killed the hype


Well I certainly wouldn't expect people with Code S or Proleague games coming up to reveal builds in an event like this, but bear in mind, ESV weeklys were where players like Taeja got their start. We want the next Taeja.


Of course, I don't expect any code S player to play here (Maybe players like Solar or Stork, who I've seem playing small cups on-line before).

I followed ESV cup almost every week. But near the last days, it was literally only these two teams (nshs and zenex) who participated. Some times FXO

Prime, Ogs, IM, MVP, Slayers, Startale didn't have even 1 player playing there, not even code B players. It was no fun watching Taeja stomping on completely unknown players


I hope this works, though. At least I hope Prime, MVP or IM participate



True enough, but I think the landscape has changed significantly since then. Heck back then, most of KeSPA hadn't even switched, now there are plenty of B-teamers and up and coming talents along with some players from the less successful teams that would participate I would imagine.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 09:15:11
July 18 2014 09:12 GMT
#73
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 12:36:42
July 18 2014 12:36 GMT
#74
On July 18 2014 12:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 12:06 Ace Frehley wrote:
I really hope the Korean players care about playing in this

I remember in the last days of ESV Korean weekly, only B-teamers of zenex and NSHS were playing, kind of killed the hype


Well I certainly wouldn't expect people with Code S or Proleague games coming up to reveal builds in an event like this, but bear in mind, ESV weeklys were where players like Taeja got their start. We want the next Taeja.


Will the Axiom players be playing in this or are they focussing on WCS?
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
July 18 2014 14:37 GMT
#75
On July 18 2014 21:36 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2014 12:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 18 2014 12:06 Ace Frehley wrote:
I really hope the Korean players care about playing in this

I remember in the last days of ESV Korean weekly, only B-teamers of zenex and NSHS were playing, kind of killed the hype


Well I certainly wouldn't expect people with Code S or Proleague games coming up to reveal builds in an event like this, but bear in mind, ESV weeklys were where players like Taeja got their start. We want the next Taeja.


Will the Axiom players be playing in this or are they focussing on WCS?


I imagine they will play in some of them, but coming up to WCS matchs will be focusing on practice and not revealing builds.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Myt
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 20:32:51
July 18 2014 20:02 GMT
#76
Thanks for organizing this, I like it alot!
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States970 Posts
July 19 2014 01:27 GMT
#77
I'm honestly really interested to see how many Europeans and North Americans try to play in these despite the lag. Not even make a deep run, just how many decide to try for the first one.

Should be really exciting regardless though! I hope we at least end up seeing State play in these since he's in Korea.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 19 2014 01:32 GMT
#78
Hopefully it will be like the KSL

I fucking loved that tournament
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United Kingdom103 Posts
July 19 2014 09:28 GMT
#79
I'm now a patron! This should be awesome. TB & Co literally saving eSports again.

Now I just need to find some silly games for TB to cast, Muhahahaha!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
July 19 2014 14:48 GMT
#80
The money raised through Patreon will now go straight to the prize pool, right?
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