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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
July 09 2014 18:35 GMT
#701
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 09 2014 18:36 GMT
#702
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

Yeah, sure just give away 2k dollars. They probably would have rather played with only Starbuck, Hasu, Heromarine and someone from the management than forfit the spot and I doubt, that that would have made you happier.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
July 09 2014 18:36 GMT
#703
On July 10 2014 03:31 royalroadweed wrote:
Ryung wrecking face. I hope he reverse all kills.


Just two more to go. I pray that he can pull it off.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 09 2014 18:36 GMT
#704
On July 10 2014 03:35 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:32 nkr wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Darkhorse wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

It was the admins decision


absolute bullshit, this league has been a farce

even though it might be a "on-the-fly" decision, it's most reasonable thing they could have done. i would say that most people want to see a bo9 and it's a great opportunity for sjaak for example to show himself, who wasn't able to show himself too much because of the age restriction in WCS


and deresponsabilize team management while meaning your rules are shit that can be overthrown everytime it's needed. Mouz fucked up badly in their roster management regarding their commitment to the ATC and Take come to save them. After the K3 incident it's so laughable.
Zest fanboy.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 09 2014 18:36 GMT
#705
On July 10 2014 03:33 Godwrath wrote:
Everybody is allowed to have a bad day. Specially after Innovation crunched their souls.


In Gumba's case he had a bad month after Inno lost in everything in that 1-2 day period.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 18:38:09
July 09 2014 18:37 GMT
#706
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.
it just shows how much of a joke esport is when you don't even need to respect your engagement to get into prizepool.
Zest fanboy.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 09 2014 18:37 GMT
#707
--- Nuked ---
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 18:38:22
July 09 2014 18:37 GMT
#708
Small recap:

Rules clearly state no mercs or partnerships for this season. Bountry Hunters and XMG (both german based and XMG sponsors of TakeTV events) blatantly break this rule and admins make up an excuse that you can partner with organisations, just not teams. Admins are then quoted saying that you could have teamed with KESPA if you had wished. Yeah right.

Season starts and suddenly admins are extremely overly harsh towards teams and EG&iG gets forfeited maps because they turn up a minute late. Teams are later told they can't add players for playoffs or prior to playoffs. Certain teams with new players can't use them.

Playoffs start and mouz (once again german based) are suddenly allowed to add new players, and admins do this without even consulting with other participating teams despite it being against the rules.

I probably missed something.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 09 2014 18:37 GMT
#709
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?

I agree. Why would a team be able to lose their players and not replace them ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
July 09 2014 18:38 GMT
#710
On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.

You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 09 2014 18:39 GMT
#711
On July 10 2014 03:37 nkr wrote:
Small recap:

Rules clearly state no mercs or partnerships for this season. Bountry Hunters and XMG (both german based and XMG sponsors of TakeTV events) blatantly break this rule and admins make up an excuse that you can partner with organisations, just not teams. Admins are then quoted saying that you could have teamed with KESPA if you had wished. Yeah right.

Season starts and suddenly admins are extremely overly harsh towards teams and EG&iG gets forfeited maps because they turn up a minute late. Teams are later told they can't add players for playoffs or prior to playoffs. Certain teams with new players can't use them.

Playoffs start and mouz (once again german based) are suddenly allowed to add new players, and admins do this without even consulting with other participating teams despite it being against the rules.

I probably missed something.


for this season it's all iirc.
Zest fanboy.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 09 2014 18:39 GMT
#712
On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.
it just shows how much of a joke esport is when you don't even need to respect your engagement to get into prizepool.

Bad management does not get a reward. Good play gets a reward. Mouz played good, thus they are in the playoffs.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 18:41:40
July 09 2014 18:40 GMT
#713
On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.

You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league.


Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players.
you could even do bo7 just like PL did.
Zest fanboy.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 09 2014 18:40 GMT
#714
On July 10 2014 03:39 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.
it just shows how much of a joke esport is when you don't even need to respect your engagement to get into prizepool.

Bad management does not get a reward. Good play gets a reward. Mouz played good, thus they are in the playoffs.


then admins allow them to play despite their management failing to comply with the rules. But ATC admins have been on MLG level since the beginning tbh.
Zest fanboy.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 09 2014 18:41 GMT
#715
On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.

You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league.


Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players.


Most of the time contracts end at a certain date. If this date is during a league, then perhaps it's best to have an extra player. But nah, that would take too much effort.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 09 2014 18:41 GMT
#716
first match for mouz Majestic !
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
July 09 2014 18:41 GMT
#717
On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.

You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league.


Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players.

Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s
ForGG. 29/11/2014
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 09 2014 18:42 GMT
#718
On July 10 2014 03:41 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.

You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league.


Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players.

Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s


you know there is an end date on the contracts right ?
Zest fanboy.
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
July 09 2014 18:42 GMT
#719
On July 10 2014 02:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 10 2014 02:50 D-light wrote:
On July 10 2014 02:49 ESC FeaR wrote:
TB u mad bro ?

I mean it is pretty damn obvious that he is disappointed by his players for performing the way they are.


Chemo, radiation, my team apparently forgetting how to play Starcraft, shitty people in the LR thread, this has just been one awful week so far.

Maybe it's just my rosy view of the world but I think LR threads have been less shitty recently than they have been in the past 2 weeks or so.


There was a very low point during the MLG Anahiem rulebook shitposting period.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
July 09 2014 18:42 GMT
#720
On July 10 2014 03:41 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:40 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:38 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:37 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:35 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:33 Nerchio wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:32 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:31 nkr wrote:
did TB & Axiom allow Sjaak&Co to play for mouz or did the admins override the rules & the teams as well?

Judging by TB's quite angry posts... it seems it was an admin decision.

What can a team do when they lose their key players and they don't have enough to play in the playoffs? It only makes sense to let them get additional players.


forfeit and next team get their spot.

At this state of Starcraft2 it doesn't make any sense, teams have barely enough to play team leagues and some don't have players at all(look at what happened with EG). Why would you disqualify 3 good players when they destroyed the season just because 1 additional player left the team?


bad management doesn't deserve a reward.

You seem to be avoiding the main point of my argument and if we listened to your way of thinking then it would be beneficial to take a lot of trash players into the team just to throw them away after the team league.


Or have an academy thing. Or a decent size roster. Or you can try to anticipate the leaving of some players.

Uh... I don't know if you're serious, saying that :s

Never take raging ppl serious^^
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