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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
July 09 2014 18:13 GMT
#661
I suppose it's quite indicative of how this game has gone for an Axiom fan in that I'm just happy that we haven't been all-killed by Sjaak....

Hoping that Ryung doesn't fall to Starbuck now.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
July 09 2014 18:13 GMT
#662
On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions.


Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this?

What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are

1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance
2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad
3) Don't crowdfund things



Look, you can be honest and not be mean. You can say, "oh my players aren't playing well today" rather then calling your players straight up bad. I don't go up to my mom and tell her she's fat, because that's disrespectful. You can tell her that she looks great, but would look nicer if she lost a few pounds. that's still being honest while not being as downright rude. You can say you're not playing well, and that we us fans deserve better. but you don't have to downright bash your team.

With all of your bullet points, these are all things that i don't agree with, and i would assume most of the comunity doesn't agree with. You can listen to the minority all day, but at the end of the day, that's not what all of us agree with.

I think your a great guy, and i'm sorry your going through so much. the last thing i want is to cause more stress. i thought you should just know where some people are coming from.
#1 Official Hack Fan|#2 Bomber behind Wintex.|Curious|Life|Flash|TY|Cure|Maru|sOs|Jin Air Green Wings fighting!|SBENU Fighting!|
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 09 2014 18:13 GMT
#663
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 09 2014 18:13 GMT
#664
On July 10 2014 03:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:10 Yorkie wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible

Ryung was spread out well and had almost entirely marauders what do you expect? He had storms to spare so he had to throw them out quickly despite them not being super efficient

He stormed exactly same place 3 times. Next 2 storms didn't hit almost anything.

Okay he was behind and panicked and had to get all his storms out and morph to archons before the templar just died. It happens
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 09 2014 18:14 GMT
#665
On July 10 2014 03:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:10 Yorkie wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Those storms were gold league level. Just horrible

Ryung was spread out well and had almost entirely marauders what do you expect? He had storms to spare so he had to throw them out quickly despite them not being super efficient

He stormed exactly same place 3 times. Next 2 storms didn't hit almost anything.

Probably a cross server lag or something like that. Remember that EU-NA is not perfect as well.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27403 Posts
July 09 2014 18:15 GMT
#666
Games are on yeahhhhh
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 09 2014 18:16 GMT
#667
2 base Brood Lords please
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
July 09 2014 18:17 GMT
#668
On July 09 2014 23:55 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 23:50 Yhamm wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:48 Xoronius wrote:
On July 09 2014 23:43 Yhamm wrote:
ah, some whine on the format, like every week on ATC

There's no problem with that though, format of a tournament only changes once a season, if you want to change something there, you have to be vocal consistently. I personally have no problem with all-kill, but if they have, there are not that many other channels to communicate it. (Ofc I may be a bit biased here, since I use my freedom of expression against bad systems quite often).

he could make a thread, ask for a vote to see what the viewers think and show it to TaKe, not whine about it each time Axiom loses or when some other player do an all-kill


Well let's see shall we:

Poll: What format do you prefer?

Proleague (72)
 
62%

All-kill no revive (35)
 
30%

All-kill with revive (10)
 
9%

117 total votes

Your vote: What format do you prefer?

(Vote): All-kill with revive
(Vote): All-kill no revive
(Vote): Proleague



Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 09 2014 18:18 GMT
#669
Go Ryung!
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 09 2014 18:19 GMT
#670
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!"
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 18:23:34
July 09 2014 18:20 GMT
#671
On July 10 2014 03:13 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions.


Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this?

What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are

1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance
2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad
3) Don't crowdfund things



People want you to do it with class, not with the angst and whinyness of a spoiled 12 year old.

Maybe look at nazgul no one "hates" on him. Did you ever consider that perhaps it's not the communities fault completely and your actions contribute to this?

I'm going to be done posting because you clearly want to make this about you instead of the sc2 that is being played, and I don't want to contribute to it. Feel free to PM me anytime buddy, and good luck.


Oh really, because I tried to make it about the Starcraft that was being played and then you called me out for not being classy enough.

So yeah, forgive me if I don't take your "advice" seriously. You didnt want to talk about the performance, you wanted your pound of flesh. YOU made this about me, YOU didn't say a thing about the Starcraft being played. I call it as I see it, my guys are playing badly. Ryung is getting things back on track, but you would apparently prefer that I lie about our teams performance because that's "classy", whatever that means.

I have to go to radiation, which strangely I'm looking forward to more than reading more of your posts.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 09 2014 18:20 GMT
#672
On July 10 2014 03:19 Darkhorse wrote:
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!"


if we skip the studio part (will probably never happen) it's doable.
Zest fanboy.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 09 2014 18:22 GMT
#673
On July 10 2014 03:20 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:19 Darkhorse wrote:
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!"


if we skip the studio part (will probably never happen) it's doable.

True, but online it just isn't nearly as hype. Plus they have all these rules and free wins in ATC that, while there for a reason, kind of suck when they are implemented harshly.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
July 09 2014 18:22 GMT
#674
On July 10 2014 03:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:13 JimmiC wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions.


Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this?

What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are

1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance
2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad
3) Don't crowdfund things



People want you to do it with class, not with the angst and whinyness of a spoiled 12 year old.

Maybe look at nazgul no one "hates" on him. Did you ever consider that perhaps it's not the communities fault completely and your actions contribute to this?

I'm going to be done posting because you clearly want to make this about you instead of the sc2 that is being played, and I don't want to contribute to it. Feel free to PM me anytime buddy, and good luck.


Oh really, because I tried to make it about the Starcraft that was being played and then you called me out for not being classy enough.

So yeah, forgive me if I don't take your "advice" seriously. You didnt want to talk about the performance, you wanted your pound of flesh. I call it as I see it, my guys are playing badly. Ryung is getting things back on track, but you would apparently prefer that I lie about our teams performance because that's "classy", whatever that means.

I have to go to radiation, which strangely I'm looking forward to more than reading more of your posts.



Good luck with your radiation. I hope that things work out well.
#1 Official Hack Fan|#2 Bomber behind Wintex.|Curious|Life|Flash|TY|Cure|Maru|sOs|Jin Air Green Wings fighting!|SBENU Fighting!|
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 18:23:52
July 09 2014 18:23 GMT
#675
On July 10 2014 03:22 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:20 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:19 Darkhorse wrote:
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!"


if we skip the studio part (will probably never happen) it's doable.

True, but online it just isn't nearly as hype. Plus they have all these rules and free wins in ATC that, while there for a reason, kind of suck when they are implemented harshly.

Well, the free-win-rule was really neccessary though, to stop teams from pulling a ROOT. Without it, stuff was just chaotic.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 09 2014 18:23 GMT
#676
On July 10 2014 03:22 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:20 sAsImre wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:19 Darkhorse wrote:
I think the general consensus has been "Wow a foreign Teamleague with PL format in a live studio would be awesome! Unfortunately it can't happen right now!"


if we skip the studio part (will probably never happen) it's doable.

True, but online it just isn't nearly as hype. Plus they have all these rules and free wins in ATC that, while there for a reason, kind of suck when they are implemented harshly.


the 1st season they did offline playoffs right ?
Zest fanboy.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
July 09 2014 18:24 GMT
#677
Impressed with what Sjaak was able to do today, but only time will tell if it's anything more than a flash in the pan. Still, some nice results from him today.

I do think that Axiom would have a better chance of beings successful if they move on in the tourney, though.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 09 2014 18:28 GMT
#678
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 09 2014 18:30 GMT
#679
On July 10 2014 03:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 03:13 JimmiC wrote:
On July 10 2014 03:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You can't shit on the team league format, mouz signing new players in order to compete, AND just generally calling your players bad and not expect any repercussions.


Yes yes I know, the community only wants honesty when it's what they want to hear. Do you not want humility? You don't want us to admit we're playing badly and that fans should be able to expect and deserve better than this?

What the fuck do you want? It's been 4 years and I still can't figure out what it is the community actually wants from a teamowner, since it seems to change on a daily basis. The only rules I've figured out so far are

1) Community knows better than players on balance, do not discuss balance
2) Do not question anything TaKe does because Germany will get mad
3) Don't crowdfund things



People want you to do it with class, not with the angst and whinyness of a spoiled 12 year old.

Maybe look at nazgul no one "hates" on him. Did you ever consider that perhaps it's not the communities fault completely and your actions contribute to this?

I'm going to be done posting because you clearly want to make this about you instead of the sc2 that is being played, and I don't want to contribute to it. Feel free to PM me anytime buddy, and good luck.


Oh really, because I tried to make it about the Starcraft that was being played and then you called me out for not being classy enough.

So yeah, forgive me if I don't take your "advice" seriously. You didnt want to talk about the performance, you wanted your pound of flesh. YOU made this about me, YOU didn't say a thing about the Starcraft being played. I call it as I see it, my guys are playing badly. Ryung is getting things back on track, but you would apparently prefer that I lie about our teams performance because that's "classy", whatever that means.

I have to go to radiation, which strangely I'm looking forward to more than reading more of your posts.

Chil out tb. Getting into an argument on the internet is like ramming your genitalia into a brick wall.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
July 09 2014 18:30 GMT
#680
On July 10 2014 03:28 JimmiC wrote:
Not sure about that, it looks like neither has the players to deal with the big guns of acer and liquid (innovation and taeja). I think this is the most important match for both teams because I can't see them knocking off the top two.

Axiom not playing great today, admittedly.

But if you take a look at their WCS results this season, they seem capable of taking off some bigger name players than Mouz. Mouz seems to be relying on 3+ kills per match from Sjaak. Don't know if that lightning will strike twice.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
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