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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#661
On June 20 2014 06:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Poll: Recommend Challenge #3 Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
7%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
7%

★★★- Good game (3)
 
21%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (8)
 
57%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
 
7%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Challenge #3 Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#662
On June 20 2014 06:01 Kireak wrote:
Stubborn zergs to not make a few roaches for defense in the start

were you watching the game? she didn't need roaches, she needed to not let hellions past her wall. they didn't even transform
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 19 2014 21:01 GMT
#663
On June 20 2014 05:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 05:55 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Talk about role reversal Polt is now smashing Scarlett.


Makes his talk before this game seem like more than just trash talk. Is Polt really THAT much of a sportsman? What a guy.

He didn't vetoed the big maps previously and that is the big difference. But i don't think he just let Scarlett win those lol.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
June 19 2014 21:04 GMT
#664
On June 20 2014 06:00 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 06:00 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 05:57 Waise wrote:
On June 20 2014 05:55 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 05:53 Waise wrote:
lol that's scarlett for you, researching +2 muta attack at a time like this

I feel like you have to do that kind of stuff sometimes, otherwise you end up in a situation where you've made a bunch of great defenses but suddenly have 1-1 lings and 1-0 mutas vs 3-3 bio

it's muta attack though. i mean if you skip 2/2 or something to hold and then you're way behind on upgrades then yeah you're dead anyway, but you can still handle drops with a small pack of 1-0 muta and just try to stay in it by committing a lot to ground and playing defensively

If mutas fight 3-3 marines which is going to happen a lot of the time +2 attack vs +1 attack is 8 damage vs. 7 damage for the first hit which is a significant difference imo

i didn't say skip muta upgrades for the entire game lol i said maybe she could delay +2 while being attacked by a significantly higher supply army

I know but what happens in most games that looks like that is that the terran keeps attacking until (in some cases) the zerg manages to push him back and then goes sit on his production and wins. In those games, you're always going to be looking at a situation where you feel like 7 banes matter more than +2 air at the moment but the upgrade is still going to help a lot in the long run, especially with muta counts of 20+ which are basically needed in that kind of games
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 19 2014 21:05 GMT
#665
On June 20 2014 06:04 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 06:00 Waise wrote:
On June 20 2014 06:00 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 05:57 Waise wrote:
On June 20 2014 05:55 Zzzapper wrote:
On June 20 2014 05:53 Waise wrote:
lol that's scarlett for you, researching +2 muta attack at a time like this

I feel like you have to do that kind of stuff sometimes, otherwise you end up in a situation where you've made a bunch of great defenses but suddenly have 1-1 lings and 1-0 mutas vs 3-3 bio

it's muta attack though. i mean if you skip 2/2 or something to hold and then you're way behind on upgrades then yeah you're dead anyway, but you can still handle drops with a small pack of 1-0 muta and just try to stay in it by committing a lot to ground and playing defensively

If mutas fight 3-3 marines which is going to happen a lot of the time +2 attack vs +1 attack is 8 damage vs. 7 damage for the first hit which is a significant difference imo

i didn't say skip muta upgrades for the entire game lol i said maybe she could delay +2 while being attacked by a significantly higher supply army

I know but what happens in most games that looks like that is that the terran keeps attacking until (in some cases) the zerg manages to push him back and then goes sit on his production and wins. In those games, you're always going to be looking at a situation where you feel like 7 banes matter more than +2 air at the moment but the upgrade is still going to help a lot in the long run, especially with muta counts of 20+ which are basically needed in that kind of games

well she's dead
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 19 2014 21:05 GMT
#666
"Is it a monkey?" - Day9.
kiss kiss fall in love
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 19 2014 21:06 GMT
#667
He also got long spawning positions in first series, and now its close spawns, luck is on Polt side now.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 19 2014 21:07 GMT
#668
It's Roach time!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 19 2014 21:07 GMT
#669
lol that awkward moment when you get a runby into the natural and nothing is mining there yet
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 21:09:33
June 19 2014 21:08 GMT
#670
Polt isn't very prepared for this.

Still holds it off with fairly low casualties. Scarlett cut a lot of Drone production and Polt got OCs.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 21:09:27
June 19 2014 21:09 GMT
#671
I feel like Polt is in a decent position

Decent given the circumstances, that is
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 19 2014 21:09 GMT
#672
why would she try to charge the ramp before banes? she could have prevented mining while waiting 5-10 seconds for the baneling nest and then done a bust, instead she let lings derp AI at the wall being shot by hellions, wtf?
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4067 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 21:10:51
June 19 2014 21:10 GMT
#673
i really like how she switched everything here. though she must really hurry up with another attack.
<3 things - Life | Kane | Innovation | Scarlett | Solar | MMA
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
June 19 2014 21:10 GMT
#674
No third for Scarlett, Polt is ahead
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 19 2014 21:11 GMT
#675
Hmm I don't like Scarlet still staying on 2 bases.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 19 2014 21:11 GMT
#676
Scarlett is pretty all-in with this 1/1 Roach + Bane timing.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 19 2014 21:12 GMT
#677
On June 20 2014 06:10 djraphi23 wrote:
No third for Scarlett, Polt is ahead

Look at supply, Scarlett has a dinamic advantage and long term disadvantage...
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
June 19 2014 21:12 GMT
#678
On June 20 2014 06:09 Waise wrote:
why would she try to charge the ramp before banes? she could have prevented mining while waiting 5-10 seconds for the baneling nest and then done a bust, instead she let lings derp AI at the wall being shot by hellions, wtf?

My guess is she was afraid that Polt would have too many unit if given those ~35 second it would take to get the nest up and morph banes. That's a whole production cycle.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 19 2014 21:12 GMT
#679
That worked better than I expected
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 19 2014 21:13 GMT
#680
too bad polt didn't hold because that scv split was like mona lisa level
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