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pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
June 18 2014 23:03 GMT
#1041
Someone should tell the lighting people at this event that they are making the casters look sickly.
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
June 18 2014 23:03 GMT
#1042
On June 19 2014 07:59 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 07:59 Josh_Video wrote:
Seems that Huk took down the tweet about Redbull's computers.

good on him, someone should never be trashed for correcting a bad decision


I agree, we should praise him for being mature enough to take down the tweet that he made in a spurt of anger. Doesn't always happen.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 18 2014 23:03 GMT
#1043
On June 19 2014 08:02 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 07:58 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:57 stuchiu wrote:
Day9 talks about Scarlett going roaches for about a minute while Scarlett makes 7 more mutas.

in fairness to day9, someone who isn't familiar with scarlett's zvz could reasonably expect her to switch into roaches like a sane person

there used to be some sort of transition to ultras some people used to play, but nobody does that anymore


omg I got bored and tried that build on ladder once a few weeks ago. I'm pretty sure it just doesn't work in HotS with spore buff. (you are talking about upgraded lings into muta into ultra right?)
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 18 2014 23:03 GMT
#1044
On June 19 2014 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 07:58 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:56 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:54 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:51 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:49 kaykoose wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I really find the behind the scenes alliances and trickery really interesting and absolutely hilarious. I think a lot of people are counting off the format without thinking about the potential of behind the scenes stuff coming into effect.


if only we had behind the scenes footage


Scarlett - YOU BETRAYED ME!
VIolet - what? You said we should go after Hu
Scarlett - NOW DIE!
Violet - GAH
Huk - These god damn computers
Polt - Seriously, does no one want to play?

Major singing in the background, "I wanna be the very best that no one ever was~~~"

TL should make a movie starring the LRers about what goes on between the players when they're not playing during a tournament.


We should get everyone with over 10k posts to play someone other than them.

I can easily play Polt. Or Taeja. Easily.


A potato sitting on a keyboard could play as TaeJa in a movie.

I could also be the best avilo you've ever seen.


Why do you guys mention Avilo so often? He's like..never relevant. Not unless you're talking about most nukes in a game.

Nor is huk. Somehow, AM players manage to keep attention to themselves .


Uhh what? Don't disrespect.....
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 18 2014 23:03 GMT
#1045
On June 19 2014 08:02 Destructicon wrote:
I never understood why you'd go roach harass without burrow and burrow movement, it makes roaches about 1 thousand million, billion times more annoying and hard to deal with.

sometimes if you invest 250/250 in burrow play you just die to a push. it's certainly a nice skill play, but how it plays out is different each time

there's absolutely no reason not to get it after you max out though
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 18 2014 23:03 GMT
#1046
So tomorrow, the challenge order will go Major, Polt, Scarlett.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 18 2014 23:04 GMT
#1047
On June 19 2014 08:02 Godwrath wrote:
I feel that the correct decission would be to just roach her throat by the moment you see the mutas.
It is not like muta can harass your base with spores anyways.

Roaches with no speed off creep will take horrendous losses trying to cross the map, and the muta player will have spines and lings to surround. You really need speed and either infestors or hydras.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 18 2014 23:04 GMT
#1048
On June 19 2014 08:03 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:02 Destructicon wrote:
I never understood why you'd go roach harass without burrow and burrow movement, it makes roaches about 1 thousand million, billion times more annoying and hard to deal with.

sometimes if you invest 250/250 in burrow play you just die to a push. it's certainly a nice skill play, but how it plays out is different each time

there's absolutely no reason not to get it after you max out though


I guess that's true given that 250 gas is 10 roaches or 20 supply, and that 20 supply can be a real deal breaker in certain situations.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 18 2014 23:04 GMT
#1049
On June 19 2014 08:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Poll: Recommend Challenge #6 Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
9%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (10)
 
91%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Challenge #6 Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 18 2014 23:05 GMT
#1050
On June 19 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:02 Godwrath wrote:
I feel that the correct decission would be to just roach her throat by the moment you see the mutas.
It is not like muta can harass your base with spores anyways.

Roaches with no speed off creep will take horrendous losses trying to cross the map, and the muta player will have spines and lings to surround. You really need speed and either infestors or hydras.

yeah you have to scout the spire and do the roach push as the mutas are building and popping, not after you go "oh shit" because they're killing your extractors
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 23:05 GMT
#1051
On June 19 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:02 Godwrath wrote:
I feel that the correct decission would be to just roach her throat by the moment you see the mutas.
It is not like muta can harass your base with spores anyways.

Roaches with no speed off creep will take horrendous losses trying to cross the map, and the muta player will have spines and lings to surround. You really need speed and either infestors or hydras.


I find the best move is to just pray to Symbol.
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 18 2014 23:05 GMT
#1052
On June 19 2014 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 07:58 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:56 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:54 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:52 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:51 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:49 kaykoose wrote:
On June 19 2014 07:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I really find the behind the scenes alliances and trickery really interesting and absolutely hilarious. I think a lot of people are counting off the format without thinking about the potential of behind the scenes stuff coming into effect.


if only we had behind the scenes footage


Scarlett - YOU BETRAYED ME!
VIolet - what? You said we should go after Hu
Scarlett - NOW DIE!
Violet - GAH
Huk - These god damn computers
Polt - Seriously, does no one want to play?

Major singing in the background, "I wanna be the very best that no one ever was~~~"

TL should make a movie starring the LRers about what goes on between the players when they're not playing during a tournament.


We should get everyone with over 10k posts to play someone other than them.

I can easily play Polt. Or Taeja. Easily.


A potato sitting on a keyboard could play as TaeJa in a movie.

I could also be the best avilo you've ever seen.


Why do you guys mention Avilo so often? He's like..never relevant. Not unless you're talking about most nukes in a game.

Nor is huk. Somehow, AM players manage to keep attention to themselves .


But HuK is a tournament competitor. To get yourself some Avilo you have to follow him on social media and/or watch his stream.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
June 18 2014 23:06 GMT
#1053
On June 19 2014 08:03 pigmanbear wrote:
Someone should tell the lighting people at this event that they are making the casters look sickly.


They're probably ODing on Red Bull by now.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 18 2014 23:06 GMT
#1054
On June 19 2014 08:05 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Godwrath wrote:
I feel that the correct decission would be to just roach her throat by the moment you see the mutas.
It is not like muta can harass your base with spores anyways.

Roaches with no speed off creep will take horrendous losses trying to cross the map, and the muta player will have spines and lings to surround. You really need speed and either infestors or hydras.


I find the best move is to just pray to Symbol.


How many Nydus worms does that involve?
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 18 2014 23:06 GMT
#1055
On June 19 2014 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:03 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Destructicon wrote:
I never understood why you'd go roach harass without burrow and burrow movement, it makes roaches about 1 thousand million, billion times more annoying and hard to deal with.

sometimes if you invest 250/250 in burrow play you just die to a push. it's certainly a nice skill play, but how it plays out is different each time

there's absolutely no reason not to get it after you max out though


I guess that's true given that 250 gas is 10 roaches or 20 supply, and that 20 supply can be a real deal breaker in certain situations.

Yeah, 10 roaches can be a LOT of roaches in an engagement during those stages, I never actually realized how expensive of an investment the burrow play can be.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 18 2014 23:06 GMT
#1056
On June 19 2014 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:03 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Destructicon wrote:
I never understood why you'd go roach harass without burrow and burrow movement, it makes roaches about 1 thousand million, billion times more annoying and hard to deal with.

sometimes if you invest 250/250 in burrow play you just die to a push. it's certainly a nice skill play, but how it plays out is different each time

there's absolutely no reason not to get it after you max out though


I guess that's true given that 250 gas is 10 roaches or 20 supply, and that 20 supply can be a real deal breaker in certain situations.

it's a lot better if you use it to heal your roaches after skirmishes too, that's a really underrated play. point is you have to be absolutely committed to doing really strong harass if you're going to invest in it early. sniping the roach warren to prevent an overwhelming rally is a great move if you can get into the main. roach vs roach, while boring for non-z spectators, is super super technical to play :D very skill based
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 23:07 GMT
#1057
On June 19 2014 08:06 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:05 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Godwrath wrote:
I feel that the correct decission would be to just roach her throat by the moment you see the mutas.
It is not like muta can harass your base with spores anyways.

Roaches with no speed off creep will take horrendous losses trying to cross the map, and the muta player will have spines and lings to surround. You really need speed and either infestors or hydras.


I find the best move is to just pray to Symbol.


How many Nydus worms does that involve?


Just 1. Then I win.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 18 2014 23:07 GMT
#1058
On June 19 2014 08:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:03 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Destructicon wrote:
I never understood why you'd go roach harass without burrow and burrow movement, it makes roaches about 1 thousand million, billion times more annoying and hard to deal with.

sometimes if you invest 250/250 in burrow play you just die to a push. it's certainly a nice skill play, but how it plays out is different each time

there's absolutely no reason not to get it after you max out though


I guess that's true given that 250 gas is 10 roaches or 20 supply, and that 20 supply can be a real deal breaker in certain situations.

Yeah, 10 roaches can be a LOT of roaches in an engagement during those stages, I never actually realized how expensive of an investment the burrow play can be.


That would explain why I die a lot when I research burrow/tunneling claws but kick ass once I get it out...
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 18 2014 23:07 GMT
#1059
Here comes the Nine Pool (which somehow gets transitioned into macro more often than Ten Pool).
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10145 Posts
June 18 2014 23:08 GMT
#1060
On June 19 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:02 Godwrath wrote:
I feel that the correct decission would be to just roach her throat by the moment you see the mutas.
It is not like muta can harass your base with spores anyways.

Roaches with no speed off creep will take horrendous losses trying to cross the map, and the muta player will have spines and lings to surround. You really need speed and either infestors or hydras.

Yeah, and you have some time to do it tho. It is not like Scarlett instantly popped hive - great spire - broodlords. He was too passive after he saw the mutas like "i am just gonna do mah thing" imho.
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