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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 18 2014 23:09 GMT
#1061
On June 19 2014 08:07 Circumstance wrote:
Here comes the Nine Pool (which somehow gets transitioned into macro more often than Ten Pool).

10 pools usually get a gas and either heavy speedling until one iperson is dead or baneling.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 18 2014 23:09 GMT
#1062
On June 19 2014 08:06 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:03 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Destructicon wrote:
I never understood why you'd go roach harass without burrow and burrow movement, it makes roaches about 1 thousand million, billion times more annoying and hard to deal with.

sometimes if you invest 250/250 in burrow play you just die to a push. it's certainly a nice skill play, but how it plays out is different each time

there's absolutely no reason not to get it after you max out though


I guess that's true given that 250 gas is 10 roaches or 20 supply, and that 20 supply can be a real deal breaker in certain situations.

it's a lot better if you use it to heal your roaches after skirmishes too, that's a really underrated play. point is you have to be absolutely committed to doing really strong harass if you're going to invest in it early. sniping the roach warren to prevent an overwhelming rally is a great move if you can get into the main. roach vs roach, while boring for non-z spectators, is super super technical to play :D very skill based


You almost make me want to offrace some Zerg and transition my droping skill into burrow play, almost
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 18 2014 23:10 GMT
#1063
On June 19 2014 08:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:06 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:04 Destructicon wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:03 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Destructicon wrote:
I never understood why you'd go roach harass without burrow and burrow movement, it makes roaches about 1 thousand million, billion times more annoying and hard to deal with.

sometimes if you invest 250/250 in burrow play you just die to a push. it's certainly a nice skill play, but how it plays out is different each time

there's absolutely no reason not to get it after you max out though


I guess that's true given that 250 gas is 10 roaches or 20 supply, and that 20 supply can be a real deal breaker in certain situations.

Yeah, 10 roaches can be a LOT of roaches in an engagement during those stages, I never actually realized how expensive of an investment the burrow play can be.


That would explain why I die a lot when I research burrow/tunneling claws but kick ass once I get it out...

a good move is to pull their army back with harass (before burrow finishes so they don't see the upgrade on your roaches) to delay the push, it's really really good on horizontal spawn frost for example where you can poke the third and try to pull them all the way toward the bridge, then send burrow squads into their bases while the army is out of position
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 18 2014 23:12 GMT
#1064
Violet is still on no gas. I can't see him holding this off.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 18 2014 23:12 GMT
#1065
She cancelled the baneling nest! Casters unfortunately didn't see that.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
June 18 2014 23:12 GMT
#1066
Scarlett is taking some nice advantages.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
VictorX
Profile Joined April 2011
United States773 Posts
June 18 2014 23:12 GMT
#1067
The Queen is too good.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
June 18 2014 23:12 GMT
#1068
Violet is killing himself.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 18 2014 23:14 GMT
#1069
Scarlett is so far ahead....
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 18 2014 23:14 GMT
#1070
On June 19 2014 08:08 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Godwrath wrote:
I feel that the correct decission would be to just roach her throat by the moment you see the mutas.
It is not like muta can harass your base with spores anyways.

Roaches with no speed off creep will take horrendous losses trying to cross the map, and the muta player will have spines and lings to surround. You really need speed and either infestors or hydras.

Yeah, and you have some time to do it tho. It is not like Scarlett instantly popped hive - great spire - broodlords. He was too passive after he saw the mutas like "i am just gonna do mah thing" imho.

Likely he expected a standard roach transition, in which case it made sense to turtle until his key upgrades finished. The broodlords caught him completely off guard.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 18 2014 23:14 GMT
#1071
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
June 18 2014 23:14 GMT
#1072
gg scarlett!
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
June 18 2014 23:14 GMT
#1073
scarlett's out for blood here
hemeh
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 18 2014 23:14 GMT
#1074
On June 19 2014 08:08 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:04 Squat wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:02 Godwrath wrote:
I feel that the correct decission would be to just roach her throat by the moment you see the mutas.
It is not like muta can harass your base with spores anyways.

Roaches with no speed off creep will take horrendous losses trying to cross the map, and the muta player will have spines and lings to surround. You really need speed and either infestors or hydras.

Yeah, and you have some time to do it tho. It is not like Scarlett instantly popped hive - great spire - broodlords. He was too passive after he saw the mutas like "i am just gonna do mah thing" imho.


He also had no vision or map control after the Mutas. He wouldn't have expected Broodlords, and Zerg players are generally practiced enough that "Oh, Mutas, A-move whole army" doesn't actually work in normal circumstances.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 18 2014 23:15 GMT
#1075
Poll: Recommend Challenge #6 Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (5)
 
71%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
14%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Challenge #6 Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

Poll: Recommend Challenge #6 Game 3?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★- Good game (3)
 
75%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
25%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Challenge #6 Game 3?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 18 2014 23:15 GMT
#1076
And then there were 3...
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 18 2014 23:15 GMT
#1077
holy shit... thoroughly out played Violet. gg
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
June 18 2014 23:15 GMT
#1078
the ones that are left are major,polt and scarlett
sick matches
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 18 2014 23:15 GMT
#1079
So basically MajOr and Scarlett will gang up on Polt for day 3. Should be cool to watch.
kiss kiss fall in love
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 18 2014 23:15 GMT
#1080
Woho 6-0 today, sweeeet. Loved the mind games vs Violet. Much smart, very meta, wow.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
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