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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 18 2014 23:21 GMT
#1101
On June 19 2014 08:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


Yea its faster, but it also makes a massive sound letting the other guy know you made a nydus.

You hear that sound no matter what, right?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
June 18 2014 23:22 GMT
#1102
On June 19 2014 08:20 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I think that Scarlett and Major will go all out against Polt, since it's their only chance of winning anyways. Major should choose Polt first and if he wins, then I think Polt will choose Major. Obviously if MajOr loses at any point it's just Scarlett vs Polt, but Scarlett and MajOr probably won't challenge each other.

I agree. Scarlett/Major has no reason to pick each other since that just means more pressure to face Polt 3 times alone, since only one can emerge victorious at the end of the day.
very illegal and very uncool
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 23:22:54
June 18 2014 23:22 GMT
#1103
On June 19 2014 08:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


Yea its faster, but it also makes a massive sound letting the other guy know you made a nydus.

yeah but what is he going to do unless he was already going muta?

edit: i assumed we were talking zvz for some reason, but i guess that matters a lot in the other matchups
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
June 18 2014 23:22 GMT
#1104
On June 19 2014 08:21 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:20 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


70 combined time for both nydus networks, and 130 for ventral sacs

only the first nydus is 70 though, the worms spawn a lot faster than that


I combined the nydus' for the 70. The main nydus is 50, and every nydus after is 20
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 23:23:24
June 18 2014 23:22 GMT
#1105
On June 19 2014 08:22 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:21 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


Yea its faster, but it also makes a massive sound letting the other guy know you made a nydus.

yeah but what is he going to do unless he was already going muta?


Nydus you and attack your main since you committed to a fast third. Thats what I did anyway.
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 18 2014 23:23 GMT
#1106
On June 19 2014 08:22 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:21 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:20 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


70 combined time for both nydus networks, and 130 for ventral sacs

only the first nydus is 70 though, the worms spawn a lot faster than that


I combined the nydus' for the 70. The main nydus is 50, and every nydus after is 20

ohh ok nvm i misread
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 18 2014 23:24 GMT
#1107
On June 19 2014 08:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:22 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:21 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


Yea its faster, but it also makes a massive sound letting the other guy know you made a nydus.

yeah but what is he going to do unless he was already going muta?


Nydus you and attack you. Thats what I did anyway.

but isn't that countered the same way you always counter nydus by preparing for it and having vision?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 23:24 GMT
#1108
On June 19 2014 08:24 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:22 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:22 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:21 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


Yea its faster, but it also makes a massive sound letting the other guy know you made a nydus.

yeah but what is he going to do unless he was already going muta?


Nydus you and attack you. Thats what I did anyway.

but isn't that countered the same way you always counter nydus by preparing for it and having vision?


Those why nydus do not themselves look for a nydus.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2014 23:25 GMT
#1109
If they suicide into polt I'll laugh
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 18 2014 23:26 GMT
#1110
On June 19 2014 08:24 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:24 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:22 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:22 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:21 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


Yea its faster, but it also makes a massive sound letting the other guy know you made a nydus.

yeah but what is he going to do unless he was already going muta?


Nydus you and attack you. Thats what I did anyway.

but isn't that countered the same way you always counter nydus by preparing for it and having vision?


Those why nydus do not themselves look for a nydus.

so what you're saying is the next time i get cannon rushed i should hatch protoss's natural and start building spines
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 23:26 GMT
#1111
On June 19 2014 08:25 Dodgin wrote:
If they suicide into polt I'll laugh


Last day, they have to beat Polt no matter what.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 18 2014 23:26 GMT
#1112
On June 19 2014 08:26 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:24 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:24 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:22 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:22 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:21 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


Yea its faster, but it also makes a massive sound letting the other guy know you made a nydus.

yeah but what is he going to do unless he was already going muta?


Nydus you and attack you. Thats what I did anyway.

but isn't that countered the same way you always counter nydus by preparing for it and having vision?


Those why nydus do not themselves look for a nydus.

so what you're saying is the next time i get cannon rushed i should hatch protoss's natural and start building spines


*Their main
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
June 18 2014 23:27 GMT
#1113
On June 19 2014 08:25 Dodgin wrote:
If they suicide into polt I'll laugh

They'll have no choice. Only one person can walk out on the last day, and Major/Scarlett would have to face Polt 3 times.
very illegal and very uncool
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 18 2014 23:28 GMT
#1114
On June 19 2014 08:26 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:26 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:24 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:24 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:22 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:22 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:21 stuchiu wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:19 Waise wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:15 Jer99 wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
What is more efficient for taking an island, nydus or overlord drop?


The latter

200/200 for ventral sacs

150/200 per nydus

what about research time + slow overlord movement? i've never tried to do this so i don't know how it plays out, but does nydus let you take the base sooner?


Yea its faster, but it also makes a massive sound letting the other guy know you made a nydus.

yeah but what is he going to do unless he was already going muta?


Nydus you and attack you. Thats what I did anyway.

but isn't that countered the same way you always counter nydus by preparing for it and having vision?


Those why nydus do not themselves look for a nydus.

so what you're saying is the next time i get cannon rushed i should hatch protoss's natural and start building spines


*Their main

i have much to learn
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 18 2014 23:29 GMT
#1115
On June 19 2014 08:27 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:25 Dodgin wrote:
If they suicide into polt I'll laugh

They'll have no choice. Only one person can walk out on the last day, and Major/Scarlett would have to face Polt 3 times.

Face and beat. A bit more difficult.
kiss kiss fall in love
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 18 2014 23:29 GMT
#1116
On June 19 2014 08:25 Dodgin wrote:
If they suicide into polt I'll laugh

He's like a Matrix agent, sooner or later someone is going to have to fight him, he holds all the keys. I think they should dress up Major in a Neo robe-thingy if he picks Polt.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 18 2014 23:30 GMT
#1117
On June 19 2014 08:25 Dodgin wrote:
If they suicide into polt I'll laugh


Major gets first choice, then Polt. If Major wins he's still on elimination point, so Polt will probably pick him anyway. If he loses...well, then it's Scarlett vs Polt with 1 life advantage.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2014 23:30 GMT
#1118
I know that guys, I just mean I'll laugh if they both burn all of their lives trying to take down Polt and Polt stays at 3.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 18 2014 23:31 GMT
#1119
On June 19 2014 08:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 08:27 argonautdice wrote:
On June 19 2014 08:25 Dodgin wrote:
If they suicide into polt I'll laugh

They'll have no choice. Only one person can walk out on the last day, and Major/Scarlett would have to face Polt 3 times.

Face and beat. A bit more difficult.


No. Win or lose, it'll still just be 3 matches against Polt.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 23:31:48
June 18 2014 23:31 GMT
#1120
On June 19 2014 08:30 Dodgin wrote:
I know that guys, I just mean I'll laugh if they both burn all of their lives trying to take down Polt and Polt stays at 3.


So Polt how does it feel to win the RBBG with 3 lives left?

Kind of sad, I was really cheering for the rest of them to take 1 life
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