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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 13 2014 11:14 GMT
#461
On June 13 2014 20:12 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote:
So why did they buff mutas exactly?


Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS


What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me.


Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though.

New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck.



pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before .
corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors .


Didn't phoenix get the range upgrade in WoL already? :o

Yeah but back then it was 4 range into 6 range. Now it's 5 into 7
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WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
June 13 2014 11:14 GMT
#462
On June 13 2014 20:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 20:12 Swisslink wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote:
So why did they buff mutas exactly?


Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS


What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me.


Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though.

New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck.



pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before .
corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors .


Didn't phoenix get the range upgrade in WoL already? :o

Yeah I'm pretty sure Anion Pulse Crystals was added during WoL and the muta buff was part of HotS.


Phoenix' default range got upgrade from 4 to 5 in HotS due to the Muta buffs.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 13 2014 11:15 GMT
#463
TRUE is gonna die.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12479 Posts
June 13 2014 11:15 GMT
#464
On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote:
So why did they buff mutas exactly?


Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS


What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me.


Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though.

New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck.



pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before .
corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors .

Is that what you tell yourself when you use phoenix to outrange corruptors and beat the zerg? Lol
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
June 13 2014 11:15 GMT
#465
On June 13 2014 20:12 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:
On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote:
So why did they buff mutas exactly?


Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS


What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me.


Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though.

New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck.




pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before .
corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors .


Didn't phoenix get the range upgrade in WoL already? :o


i dont remember exactly but i'm pretty sure in the end of wol parting lost to curious in code s and curious was using mutas . i dont remember too good anyway .
anyway range is to counter the acceleration of mutas so everything changed but nothing changed sort of situation .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 11:16:34
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#466
now let's see if queen-ling is able to defend this

okay, True is fine
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#467
Wth is Zest doing???
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#468
the hell was that, zest
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#469
TRUE is the next zerg bonjwa
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#470
Hahaha queens are so strong
Neosteel Enthusiast
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#471
nice hold!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#472
I love queens so much.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#473
I don't think Zest realized there is an in built defense with this build.
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#474
You rarely see a Zest attack fail so hard.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 13 2014 11:16 GMT
#475
Imagine destiny's troll build becoming the new meta
Neosteel Enthusiast
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
June 13 2014 11:17 GMT
#476
Queens, the good old counter to everything while still being one of the best lategame units.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
June 13 2014 11:17 GMT
#477
On June 13 2014 20:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
TRUE is gonna die.

Not TRUE that
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 13 2014 11:17 GMT
#478
Wow, soO just murdered Solar. Almost making it look like Solar wasn't Ro8 material.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 13 2014 11:17 GMT
#479
I think Zest didn't believe that TRUE has the gall to do the same build thrice.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 13 2014 11:17 GMT
#480
1-1 into SH I think.
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