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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
WINTEXERINO BANNERINOFriday, Jun 13 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_2/Code_S TL Preview: Click here
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soO vs Solar ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/10.png)
TRUE vs Zest ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/2.png)
+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] ++ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +
+ Show Spoiler [Live Reports] + soO vs Solar Game 1 soO vs Solar Game 2 soO vs Solar Game 3 soO vs Solar Game 4 soO vs Solar Game 5
TRUE vs Zest Game 1 TRUE vs Zest Game 2 TRUE vs Zest Game 3 TRUE vs Zest Game 4 TRUE vs Zest Game 5
+ Show Spoiler [K-pop] +
+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [soO vs Solar] +Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (2) 11% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (14) 78% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 6% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 7% ★★★- Good game (9) 60% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 33% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 14% ★★★- Good game (7) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 21% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 42% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 8% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 42% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 17% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
+ Show Spoiler [TRUE vs Zest] +Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 10% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (7) 35% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (11) 55% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 4% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 8% ★★★- Good game (7) 28% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (13) 52% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 8% 25 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 4% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (3) 12% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (17) 65% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5) 19% 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 7% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 11% ★★★- Good game (1) 4% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 18% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (17) 61% 28 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (6) 38% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 44% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Head?soO (28) 88% Solar (4) 13% 32 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): soO (Vote): Solar
Poll: Heart?soO (21) 66% Solar (11) 34% 32 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): soO (Vote): Solar
Poll: Head?Zest (31) 91% TRUE (3) 9% 34 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): TRUE (Vote): Zest
Poll: Heart?Zest (24) 67% TRUE (12) 33% 36 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): TRUE (Vote): Zest
(1796) soO 0-0 Solar (1827) --------------------------------------- 11.49% 3-0 0-3 13.57% 17.71% 3-1 1-3 19.79% 18.20% 3-2 2-3 19.24% --------------------------------------- 47.40% 52.60%
Median outcome: soO 2-3 Solar Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
(1461) TRUE 0-0 Zest (1993) ------------------------------------- 2.23% 3-0 0-3 37.12% 4.80% 3-1 1-3 31.33% 6.90% 3-2 2-3 17.63% ------------------------------------- 13.92% 86.08%
Median outcome: TRUE 1-3 Zest Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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WCS Predictor says (updated with WCS EU quarterfinals set)
Starts in + Show Spoiler [soO, Solar in GSL S2 Code S] +GSL S2 Code S Solar has the #2 headband! This is a match for the #2 headband! - soO is at ~ 39.7 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 48.52 % of the time soO wins and their chances go up to ~ 61.09 %. ~ 51.48 % of the time soO loses and their chances go down to ~ 19.54 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Solar is at ~ 21.46 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 51.48 % of the time Solar wins and their chances go up to ~ 36.31 %. ~ 48.52 % of the time Solar loses and their chances go down to ~ 5.69 %. Starts in + Show Spoiler [TRUE, Zest in GSL S2 Code S] +GSL S2 Code S - TRUE is at ~ 3.94 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 25.24 % of the time TRUE wins and their chances go up to ~ 13.43 %. ~ 74.76 % of the time TRUE loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.73 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Zest is at ~ 99.99 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 74.76 % of the time Zest wins and their chances go up to ~ 99.99 %. ~ 25.24 % of the time Zest loses and their chances go down to ~ 99.95 %.
http://sc2.4ever.tv/
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Solar is in pretty great shape at the moment, so if one of these matches are to end in an upset then I'd go for Solar 3-2 soO. Zest vs. TRUE, eh, Zest will probably punch a hole in his face
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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your Country52797 Posts
I would like anyone except Solar to get through to the finals, as they would make interesting storylines.
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On June 13 2014 09:11 The_Templar wrote: I would like anyone except Solar to get through to the finals, as they would make interesting storylines. TRUE?
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your Country52797 Posts
On June 13 2014 09:17 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 09:11 The_Templar wrote: I would like anyone except Solar to get through to the finals, as they would make interesting storylines. TRUE? Crazy playstyle, came from nowhere in a series of massive upsets?
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A bit of an OT question: why Maru is qualifying for WCS AM? Hope he doesn't want to move from Code S to WCS AM, but just leaving the possibility open.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
standard banner? really?
REALLY?
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Cant wait for these matches!!
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On June 13 2014 10:30 Fran_ wrote: A bit of an OT question: why Maru is qualifying for WCS AM? Hope he doesn't want to move from Code S to WCS AM, but just leaving the possibility open. it's just someone else with the same ID as Maru
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Solar 3-1 soO
TRUE 0-3 Zest
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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United States97276 Posts
soOjwa's season to win with no more royal roading Toss!
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 11:05 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 10:30 Fran_ wrote: A bit of an OT question: why Maru is qualifying for WCS AM? Hope he doesn't want to move from Code S to WCS AM, but just leaving the possibility open. it's just someone else with the same ID as Maru This Australian guy http://aligulac.com/players/2087-Maru/
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On June 13 2014 16:18 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 11:05 Die4Ever wrote:On June 13 2014 10:30 Fran_ wrote: A bit of an OT question: why Maru is qualifying for WCS AM? Hope he doesn't want to move from Code S to WCS AM, but just leaving the possibility open. it's just someone else with the same ID as Maru This Australian guy http://aligulac.com/players/2087-Maru/ lol what???
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Really looking forward this. soO and Zest have got it in the bag.
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Obviously Zest and soO are the overwhelming favourites but I could see Solar picking up a map against soO. I think Zest is gonna wreck TRUE though.
Poll: How many maps will TRUE and Solar win between them?0 (5) 23% 1 (10) 45% 2 (1) 5% 3 (2) 9% 4 (3) 14% 5 (0) 0% 6 (1) 5% 22 total votes Your vote: How many maps will TRUE and Solar win between them? (Vote): 0 (Vote): 1 (Vote): 2 (Vote): 3 (Vote): 4 (Vote): 5 (Vote): 6
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I think solar vs soo will be close, unless one player gets a favorable build/bit of luck back to back
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Few minutes late. Where's Arty?
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those GSL LR banners are disturbing, really!
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:04 TheSayo182 wrote: those GSL LR banners are disturbing, really! yeah some of the faces look like they are going to fall off
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On June 13 2014 18:03 Mozdk wrote: Few minutes late. Where's Arty? off to dreamhack, casting hearthstone
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On June 13 2014 18:05 stevorino wrote:off to dreamhack, casting hearthstone
k, ty
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GOGO Solar! Represent Zerg Chat and prove NA ideas can win in Code S!
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Who will have the honor of being crushed by Maru? :3
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soOjwa is going to make this show x rated.
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Code S HYYYYYYYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On June 13 2014 18:07 Circumstance wrote: GOGO Solar! Represent Zerg Chat and prove NA ideas can win in Code S!
soo is in the chat too :o
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Evening all. Here we go (again).
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Time to learn ZvZ. My Liquibet is on Soo
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United States97276 Posts
that early pool. Solar is scared
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On June 13 2014 18:13 Shellshock wrote: that early pool. Solar is scared Nah man, he's confident.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
SHUT DOWN gg soOjwaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:14 Lorning wrote: RIP soO RIP Lorning
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soO doesn't give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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51392 Posts
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Wow. soO. I thought that was over.
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Hahahaha get rekt Solar. soO should be dead but comes out ahead.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:15 Shellshock wrote:RIP Lorning I was doubting the soOjwa
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On June 13 2014 18:15 Mozdk wrote: soO doesn't give a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
was ready to write this ahah
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On June 13 2014 18:14 Lorning wrote: RIP soO
LOOOOOOOOL
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On June 13 2014 18:15 Nebuchad wrote:was ready to write this ahah
Yeah and now soO is just gonna bane stomp him
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early pools suck without gas and baneling followups
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just tuned in and where is Artosis
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Tasteless described this perfectly.
"Totally unimpressed"
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On June 13 2014 18:17 Schelim wrote:just tuned in and where is Artosis 
Sweden for DH
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On June 13 2014 18:17 Schelim wrote:just tuned in and where is Artosis 
DH for Hearthstone.
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:17 Schelim wrote:just tuned in and where is Artosis  he got demoted. Wolf promoted to permanent code s caster with tasteless
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Man... What a bad early pool.
The defence was tight.
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On June 13 2014 18:17 Shellshock wrote:he got demoted. Wolf promoted to permanent code s caster with tasteless the day i never watch code s with sound again
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On June 13 2014 18:17 Mozdk wrote:Sweden for DH there's a DH this weekend? fml i got 2 exams on monday
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soO is just one big brain with fast fingers.
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Godlike. :D
This is SoO over.
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soO is actually a machine.
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I just traded soO away in my fpl. Might regret it.
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soO is just cleaning house right now.
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I don't want to sound like a hater but I genuinely don't understand why people think Soulkey is better than non-gsl-final soO
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
please no 20minute death animation ;_;
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OMG! It's SOOper SOO! So great his plays.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Yay, onto the next onto the next one :D
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (2) 11% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (14) 78% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 6% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On June 13 2014 18:00 Crot4le wrote:Obviously Zest and soO are the overwhelming favourites but I could see Solar picking up a map against soO. I think Zest is gonna wreck TRUE though. Poll: How many maps will TRUE and Solar win between them?0 (5) 23% 1 (10) 45% 2 (1) 5% 3 (2) 9% 4 (3) 14% 5 (0) 0% 6 (1) 5% 22 total votes Your vote: How many maps will TRUE and Solar win between them? (Vote): 0 (Vote): 1 (Vote): 2 (Vote): 3 (Vote): 4 (Vote): 5 (Vote): 6
At this rate I think even voting for one map seems a little generous.
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United States97276 Posts
imagine 3 back to back to back finals
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:21 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (2) 11% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (14) 78% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 6% 18 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Imagine him losing 3 finals in a row
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On June 13 2014 18:21 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:00 Crot4le wrote:Obviously Zest and soO are the overwhelming favourites but I could see Solar picking up a map against soO. I think Zest is gonna wreck TRUE though. Poll: How many maps will TRUE and Solar win between them?0 (5) 23% 1 (10) 45% 2 (1) 5% 3 (2) 9% 4 (3) 14% 5 (0) 0% 6 (1) 5% 22 total votes Your vote: How many maps will TRUE and Solar win between them? (Vote): 0 (Vote): 1 (Vote): 2 (Vote): 3 (Vote): 4 (Vote): 5 (Vote): 6
At this rate I think even voting for one map seems a little generous. I go for 3.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals
Surelly Mr Zest will bop him in Semi finals?
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finally a good zerg player who understands how to hold early pools with 15h. Bit greedy though could have cost him if it was a different variation... I wouldnt be surprised if soo early pools now that solar will prob 15h
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On June 13 2014 18:22 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Imagine him losing 3 finals in a row the true heir to MKP
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:22 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Imagine him losing 3 finals in a row soO 4-3 Maru
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On June 13 2014 18:22 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Surelly Mr Zest will bop him in Semi finals? soO almost beat him in two series tho by one map.
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On June 13 2014 18:22 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Surelly Mr Zest will bop him in Semi finals?
If they both make it through, Zest might go down. His GSL win was a close one and while Zest has gotten better so has SoO.
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On June 13 2014 18:23 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Lorning wrote:On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Imagine him losing 3 finals in a row soO 4-3 Maru
This thought has also crossed my mind. That would be a good final.
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On June 13 2014 18:22 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Surelly Mr Zest will bop him in Semi finals? It would be already quite a feat to have a rematch of last seasons finals in the ro4.
It's a testament that the scene in korea is actually quite stable nowadays.
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On June 13 2014 18:23 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Pandemona wrote:On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Surelly Mr Zest will bop him in Semi finals? soO almost beat him in two series tho by one map.
He lost his finals to nerves a ton, he had many advantages in the games he lost and needed just one more win. soO won't feel the nerves in the semis, I think he'll be favored over Zest.
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Actually not that big a deal with the gold. It seems they always take that one in ZvZ.
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I forget sometimes how good Tasteless can be as lead caster.
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Hoping for TRUE/Zest, but I have a feeling soO/Zest will make it.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:23 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Lorning wrote:On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Imagine him losing 3 finals in a row the true heir to MKP That's even worse than MKP
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On June 13 2014 18:26 aZealot wrote: I forget sometimes how good Tasteless can be as lead caster. He is always good when he ISN'T with Artosis, as ironic as that sounds. :D
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:28 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:23 Schelim wrote:On June 13 2014 18:22 Lorning wrote:On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Imagine him losing 3 finals in a row the true heir to MKP That's even worse than MKP it's harder to make a final now than january 2011. soO is 10x the kong MKP is
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On June 13 2014 18:29 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:28 Lorning wrote:On June 13 2014 18:23 Schelim wrote:On June 13 2014 18:22 Lorning wrote:On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Imagine him losing 3 finals in a row the true heir to MKP That's even worse than MKP it's harder to make a final now than january 2011. soO is 10x the kong MKP is Think he can snatch second place at Blizzcon?
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Norway25712 Posts
why do you still have that banner
it is horrible
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Solar's got to pull no punches and go all-out making a last stand defending soO's next attack to try and get back in the game.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:31 KristofferAG wrote: why do you still have that banner
it is horrible Why don't you make me one then
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soO is so fucking good, especially at ZvZ.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 7% ★★★- Good game (9) 60% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 33% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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OMG artosis is trying to curse soO suuuuuper hard
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Haven't heard Tasteless hype a zerg this much since Nestea
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Norway25712 Posts
On June 13 2014 18:32 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:31 KristofferAG wrote: why do you still have that banner
it is horrible Why don't you make me one then no i don't want to.
SOLAR SMASH HIS FACE
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apparently zvz is really easy if you are soo. Just build roach and kill opponent
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More Zergs need to make lots of Overseers for Contaminate timings.
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Perfect Contaminate timing, well played!
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On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals
Unfortunately he has to go through Zest in the semis this time.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Wow haha soOjwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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what is this casting, best xyz best here best that...seriously what is that :x cant i ve a normal cast without hyping shit up like some looney?
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On June 13 2014 18:33 gophario wrote: apparently zvz is really easy if you are soo. Just build roach and kill opponent
That was not what he did.
He make gold expo and defense it!
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haha, so sick :D
that contaminate timing
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On June 13 2014 18:33 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Unfortunately he has to go through Zest in the semis this time. He is totally capable of beating Zest.
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On June 13 2014 18:33 Ramiz1989 wrote:Perfect Contaminate timing, well played! 
What's a contaminate? I think the official term is 'goop'.
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On June 13 2014 18:34 {ToT}ColmA wrote:what is this casting, best xyz best here best that...seriously what is that :x cant i ve a normal cast without hyping shit up like some looney? 
But soO really is from the future.
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On June 13 2014 18:00 Crot4le wrote:Obviously Zest and soO are the overwhelming favourites but I could see Solar picking up a map against soO. I think Zest is gonna wreck TRUE though. Poll: How many maps will TRUE and Solar win between them?0 (5) 23% 1 (10) 45% 2 (1) 5% 3 (2) 9% 4 (3) 14% 5 (0) 0% 6 (1) 5% 22 total votes Your vote: How many maps will TRUE and Solar win between them? (Vote): 0 (Vote): 1 (Vote): 2 (Vote): 3 (Vote): 4 (Vote): 5 (Vote): 6
Lol at whomever voted for six.
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On June 13 2014 18:35 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:34 {ToT}ColmA wrote:what is this casting, best xyz best here best that...seriously what is that :x cant i ve a normal cast without hyping shit up like some looney?  But soO really is from the future. He is GodsoOlla
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United States97276 Posts
it's zerg's turn to win a premier Korean tournament. They've have the longest drought
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Austria24417 Posts
This might turn into the most one sided day of GSL ever. I don't foresee TRUE taking a map off Zest
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I must say that recently I really started to enjoy top level ZvZ. There are a ton of little things that can change the outcome of the game. Even with Roaches vs. Roaches battles, micro, positioning, defender's advantage, upgrades, timing really matters a lot.
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On June 13 2014 18:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: This might turn into the most one sided day of GSL ever. I don't foresee TRUE taking a map off Zest TRUE is going to beat Zest
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Pandemona
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Yeah the way TRUE played to get to the RO8 was pretty strange to say the least. Was looking like a bronze in the maps he lost.
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On June 13 2014 18:39 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: This might turn into the most one sided day of GSL ever. I don't foresee TRUE taking a map off Zest TRUE is going to beat Zest nobody beats Zest in GSL
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On June 13 2014 18:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: This might turn into the most one sided day of GSL ever. I don't foresee TRUE taking a map off Zest
wow, i guess you really are bad at this prediction thing... True>zest
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On June 13 2014 18:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: This might turn into the most one sided day of GSL ever. I don't foresee TRUE taking a map off Zest Dude TRUE > Zest.
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On June 13 2014 18:40 LeLfe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:39 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 18:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: This might turn into the most one sided day of GSL ever. I don't foresee TRUE taking a map off Zest TRUE is going to beat Zest nobody beats Zest in GSL Maru beat him last season
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if true even puts up a good fight I will be impressed. In practice games zest has me convinced he is by far the best player currently. Will be interesting to see how true prepared. soo vs zest could be a good series if soo continues playing well and prepares.
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Solar should just go ahead and get crushed here so soOjwa can advance to his 3rd final faster
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On June 13 2014 18:39 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: This might turn into the most one sided day of GSL ever. I don't foresee TRUE taking a map off Zest TRUE is going to beat Zest
No, he's really not.
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Oops I'm late. Time for Solar to win three games now. I believe!
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On June 13 2014 18:34 {ToT}ColmA wrote:what is this casting, best xyz best here best that...seriously what is that :x cant i ve a normal cast without hyping shit up like some looney?  more hype more viewers ... so they say
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On June 13 2014 18:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:33 Crot4le wrote:On June 13 2014 18:22 Shellshock wrote: imagine 3 back to back to back finals Unfortunately he has to go through Zest in the semis this time. He is totally capable of beating Zest.
Of course he is, he can beat anyone. He almost won the final last season.
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Dat family day out to GSL for foreigners ;o Wow wish my family was like dat
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On June 13 2014 18:47 Pandemona wrote: Dat family day out to GSL for foreigners ;o Wow wish my family was like dat I think it would be weird to go with my family to the GSL
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On June 13 2014 18:47 Pandemona wrote: Dat family day out to GSL for foreigners ;o Wow wish my family was like dat Yeah pretty cool stuff
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Solar's ZvZ isn't even bad, it's actually really solid. soO is just lightyears ahead of him it seems.
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Wow I take a shower and come back and it's already this far?
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On June 13 2014 18:49 DarkLordOlli wrote: What's that spine for?? BM spine - I don't even need this drone to beat you
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On June 13 2014 18:49 Shellshock wrote:BM spine - I don't even need this drone to beat you LOOOOL
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hahaha that scout path hahahah
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what they are talking about? he saw the 3rd ultra early
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that map vision from Solar
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This whole series, all of the little things have worked out for soO and bombed for Solar. And in ZvZ, the little things snowball, because everything snowballs.
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On June 13 2014 18:48 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:47 Pandemona wrote: Dat family day out to GSL for foreigners ;o Wow wish my family was like dat I think it would be weird to go with my family to the GSL
Yeah i don't think our family of mini robots will be welcomed either 
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So... Solar got rekt as expected it seems.
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Just tuned in. Has this been a one-sided brutalising?
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Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 14% ★★★- Good game (7) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 21% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 42% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 8% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 42% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 17% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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wow everything went soo's way this series :O
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On June 13 2014 18:51 marvellosity wrote: Just tuned in. Has this been a one-sided brutalising? absolutely soul crushing 1 sided
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soO easy. Superb performance.
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soO is from another planet, totally rekt.
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soO looks almost embarrassed at how easy that was or something.
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Ahahaha I remember doing this on the ladder. Guy is playing defensively and is making Roaches, and I hit him with like 70 +1 lings. :D
Amazing play by SoO, really good.
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On June 13 2014 18:51 marvellosity wrote: Just tuned in. Has this been a one-sided brutalising?
As one-sided as it gets really
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Noooooo my prophecy was false
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On June 13 2014 18:48 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:47 Pandemona wrote: Dat family day out to GSL for foreigners ;o Wow wish my family was like dat I think it would be weird to go with my family to the GSL
Do they know that you have got a banhammer? Like did you sit together for breakfast and you were like "yeah so I got a hammer yesterday" and mom's like "good for you, son".
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soO made that spine. MISTAKE.
What now?
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Perfect series?
What about Mvp and NesTea 4-0'ing people?
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SoO smash! Good god, destruction. Solar got s(ch)oOled.
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On June 13 2014 18:52 DarkLordOlli wrote: soO made that spine. MISTAKE.
What now? I already told you it was to show off that he can sack a drone and 100 minerals as a bm move and still win
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On June 13 2014 18:52 DarkLordOlli wrote: soO made that spine. MISTAKE.
What now? Jail
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Solar isn't even bad, soO is just actually from the future.
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Anybody knows the total time of that series?
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shit, P gonna win for sure now, the best ZvP is eliminated, soo is good but his ZvP last final is completely terrible.
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On June 13 2014 18:51 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 14% ★★★- Good game (7) 50% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (3) 21% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 14% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 42% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 8% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (5) 42% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 25% ★★★- Good game (1) 8% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (2) 17% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend soO vs Solar Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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soO will win the this season if he continues to play like that
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On June 13 2014 18:52 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:52 DarkLordOlli wrote: soO made that spine. MISTAKE.
What now? Jail But only for 3 months
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Impressive from soO. Let's hope that guy ends up winning at least one GSL, because he deserves it.
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god damn soO with that thrashing :o
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Hmm, I somehow feel, that soO - Life or soO - Rain would have been more exiting. Anyway, gg soO.
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On June 13 2014 18:52 Thrillz wrote: Perfect series?
What about Mvp and NesTea 4-0'ing people?
HerO 4-0 Taeja.
Aside from Nestea vs Inca that would be my pick for most one sided final ever
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On June 13 2014 18:51 marvellosity wrote: Just tuned in. Has this been a one-sided brutalising?
Yep. soO even held off a 8 pool despite a really really greedy build.
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soO just seemed light years ahead in skill... solar's going to need a hug
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Can't tell if I should be happy that soO avenged Rain by stomping Solar or a bit sad that Rain lost to Solar in the first place.
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Tasteless: "We will take a short Grack, and then we will come back" xD
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On June 13 2014 18:52 double1185 wrote: shit, P gonna win for sure now, the best ZvP is eliminated, soo is good but his ZvP last final is completely terrible. lol are you sure we're thinking about the same soO?
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Man Solar seemed to play so well in RO16. Freakin soO.
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On June 13 2014 18:52 Zerg.Zilla wrote: ...poor Solar :/
At least he doesn't have to go Brack to Code A.
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Solar isn't even a bad player..... And soO just completely curb stomped Solar. I two starred every game. There was no redeeming qualities to any of these games. Just soO > Solar
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On June 13 2014 18:52 AWalker9 wrote: soO will win the this season if he continues to play like that
I think Zest and Maru/Classic would provide a much tougher test though. Still going to be very hard but yeah, totally capable. Third time lucky?
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On June 13 2014 18:54 Circumstance wrote:At least he doesn't have to go Brack to Code A. That's true, hopefully he'll continue to do well in Season 3. And it'd be nice if he could go out to more tournaments, I want to see Solar at an IEM or Dreamhack!
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On June 13 2014 18:52 Psychobabas wrote: Anybody knows the total time of that series?
Pretty useless to ask that. Despite all what has been said, this series doesn't even come close to some series from the early days in terms of short runtime and absolute crushing.
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On June 13 2014 18:54 Orcasgt24 wrote: Solar isn't even a bad player..... And soO just completely curb stomped Solar. I two starred every game. There was no redeeming qualities to any of these games. Just soO > Solar I voted 4 star because it's worth seeing how much of a monster soO is.
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SoO looked bored and then contemptuous and then just smug as he wrapped it up without a sweat.
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On June 13 2014 18:56 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 18:54 Orcasgt24 wrote: Solar isn't even a bad player..... And soO just completely curb stomped Solar. I two starred every game. There was no redeeming qualities to any of these games. Just soO > Solar I voted 4 star because it's worth seeing how much of a monster soO is.
You literally can't make a mistake against him when he's on form
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Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!!
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Even liquipedia can't recover from this defeat it seems.
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On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!! Hilarious thing is that IMMvp and Bomber together have less viewers than ROOTdrewbie who is "inactive"...
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On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!!
multitwitch.tv could be your friend.
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On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!! think of us who are at work TT
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On June 13 2014 19:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!! Hilarious thing is that IMMvp and Bomber together have less viewers than ROOTdrewbie who is "inactive"... I'd rather watch drewbie's personality than faceless koreans but that's just my opinion
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On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!!
thankfully GOM are providing you with plenty of time to watch them!
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Mvp's stream doesnt work
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On June 13 2014 19:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!! Hilarious thing is that IMMvp and Bomber together have less viewers than ROOTdrewbie who is "inactive"...
Well, I'd assume they're getting additional viewers on Azubu.
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Heh soO went from being the embarrassing ace decision in hybrid proleague to crushing fools en route to another top 4 at least finish.
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On June 13 2014 19:04 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!! Hilarious thing is that IMMvp and Bomber together have less viewers than ROOTdrewbie who is "inactive"... Well, I'd assume they're getting additional viewers on Azubu. I just realized that they are using Azubu while Drewbie is using twitch, that is still more popular, maybe that is why. :/
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Alright TRUE time to kill Zest and shock the world.
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On June 13 2014 19:03 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!! Hilarious thing is that IMMvp and Bomber together have less viewers than ROOTdrewbie who is "inactive"... I'd rather watch drewbie's personality than faceless koreans but that's just my opinion dat bait
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On June 13 2014 19:06 LeLfe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:03 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:02 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 13 2014 19:00 Orcasgt24 wrote: Fuck....IMMvp is streaming, Bomber is Streaming and GSL is on. I ONLY HAVE ONE MONITOR!!!! Hilarious thing is that IMMvp and Bomber together have less viewers than ROOTdrewbie who is "inactive"... I'd rather watch drewbie's personality than faceless koreans but that's just my opinion dat bait
and dat racism
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The day that I have a microphone with my name on it is the day that I'm sure I've succeeded in life.
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On June 13 2014 19:04 gTank wrote:Mvp's stream doesnt work  gotta go to azubutvs website. TL doesn't seem to link to it or whatever the issue is. IDK lol.
IMMvp stream Bombers stream Bomber fixed his shit and is back
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On June 13 2014 19:07 Orcasgt24 wrote:gotta go to azubutvs website. TL doesn't seem to link to it or whatever the issue is. IDK lol. IMMvp streamBombers stream Bomber appear to have just gone offline. Videos unavalible
Thanks! :D
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Zest isn't 100% in best of series? Unless they're talking about ZvP or vTRUE.
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On June 13 2014 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Zest isn't 100% in best of series? Unless they're talking about ZvP or vTRUE.
Maybe just meaning GSL? Don't think he's dropped any yet has he?
Nvm, think they are talking PvZ.
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On June 13 2014 19:11 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Zest isn't 100% in best of series? Unless they're talking about ZvP or vTRUE. Maybe just meaning GSL? Don't think he's dropped any yet has he? He lost to Maru last season. But I think they are talking about ZvP now.
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On June 13 2014 19:11 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Zest isn't 100% in best of series? Unless they're talking about ZvP or vTRUE. Maybe just meaning GSL? Don't think he's dropped any yet has he? He lost a series to Maru in the second group stage last season. Outside of that, he is undefeated in GSL, but he lost to Life twice at IEM NY.
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TRUE beat the soOjwa before. He has the best ZvZ in the world
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On June 13 2014 19:12 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:11 Phredxor wrote:On June 13 2014 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Zest isn't 100% in best of series? Unless they're talking about ZvP or vTRUE. Maybe just meaning GSL? Don't think he's dropped any yet has he? He lost a series to Maru in the second group stage last season. Outside of that, he is undefeated in GSL, but he lost to Life twice at IEM NY. To be fair though that was like what, 8 months ago?
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On June 13 2014 19:12 Shellshock wrote: TRUE beat the soOjwa before. He has the best ZvZ in the world Jin Air finals incoming
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On June 13 2014 19:12 Shellshock wrote: TRUE beat the soOjwa before. He has the best ZvZ in the world
And he needs it, as the new ZvZ, ZergvZest, has been a very one-sided matchup lately.
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On June 13 2014 19:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:12 Xoronius wrote:On June 13 2014 19:11 Phredxor wrote:On June 13 2014 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Zest isn't 100% in best of series? Unless they're talking about ZvP or vTRUE. Maybe just meaning GSL? Don't think he's dropped any yet has he? He lost a series to Maru in the second group stage last season. Outside of that, he is undefeated in GSL, but he lost to Life twice at IEM NY. To be fair though that was like what, 8 months ago? It isn't a factor in his recent form, but it still means, that he isn't undefeated.
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On June 13 2014 19:07 Orcasgt24 wrote:gotta go to azubutvs website. TL doesn't seem to link to it or whatever the issue is. IDK lol. IMMvp streamBombers stream Bomber fixed his shit and is back
Life saver, I had no idea how to get onto his stream yesterday
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Zest is several kinds of handsome. I want to see him with a beard.
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I really hope for 3:2 for Zest, with great games, so we could see SoO vs. Zest in the semis. I am scared for SoO if TRUE wins, TRUE has really sick ZvZ.
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Dear Zest:
ChooChoo. Just once. That is all
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This is gonna be really tough for TRUE. After Zest defended that crazy attack from DongRaeGu in Shoutcraft, I don't know if anybody can beat him.
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On June 13 2014 19:15 AlternativeEgo wrote: Zest is several kinds of handsome. I want to see him with a beard.
Zest with a beard would be too much. He'd be the ultimate nerd slayer.
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On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever
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On June 13 2014 19:15 Orcasgt24 wrote: Dear Zest:
ChooChoo. Just once. That is all
I have no idea how you enjoy watching that shit... I don't enjoy it even when Zerg manages to defend and crush Protoss in the end, it is just a wasted game for me.
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Of course Tasteless really likes Wolf's stupid player nicknames. >_<
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On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too
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Ahw I wanted 4 hatch before pool .. might not be a good idea though
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On June 13 2014 19:17 Ketch wrote:Ahw I wanted 4 hatch before pool  .. might not be a good idea though  I think the only person I've seen do it not counting proxy hatches is CatZ
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On June 13 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too Who was given the title of Renaissance Nerd?
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On June 13 2014 19:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too Who was given the title of Renaissance Nerd?
NaDa
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On June 13 2014 19:18 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:17 Ketch wrote:Ahw I wanted 4 hatch before pool  .. might not be a good idea though  I think the only person I've seen do it not counting proxy hatches is CatZ iirc DRG did it against Zest with both golds and the only reason he didn't win was because Zest's defense was perfect.
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On June 13 2014 19:19 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too Who was given the title of Renaissance Nerd? NaDa What
Nada is, and always will be, the Tornado Terran
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On June 13 2014 19:19 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too Who was given the title of Renaissance Nerd? NaDa NaDa already had a nickname too, Genius Terran. Or alternative, Tornado Terran. :p
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On June 13 2014 19:20 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:19 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too Who was given the title of Renaissance Nerd? NaDa What Nada is, and always will be, the Tornado Terran not according to Tastosis unfortunately
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This talk about +1 armor hurts me physically
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Artosis to solo cast rest of GSL now.
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On June 13 2014 19:20 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:20 Elyvilon wrote:On June 13 2014 19:19 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too Who was given the title of Renaissance Nerd? NaDa What Nada is, and always will be, the Tornado Terran not according to Tastosis unfortunately Weren't Tastosis actually around when NaDa was the indisputable best BW player? They really should know that one...
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On June 13 2014 19:22 DarkLordOlli wrote: This talk about +1 armor hurts me physically Atleast they know they arent qualified for this job
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Those Queens are making quite the journey.
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haha, this is the awesomest timing, whether or not it works
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wtf so many corruptors, is this the matrix
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Austria24417 Posts
Zest has this perfectly figured out.
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On June 13 2014 19:23 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:20 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:20 Elyvilon wrote:On June 13 2014 19:19 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too Who was given the title of Renaissance Nerd? NaDa What Nada is, and always will be, the Tornado Terran not according to Tastosis unfortunately Weren't Tastosis actually around when NaDa was the indisputable best BW player? They really should know that one... I think they said they wanted to redefine him for sc2 viewers. idk they tried to force it for a few gsl seasons and then eventually gave up
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Watching queens traverse the length of Alterzim is a very interesting thing.
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MVP and Nestea streaming! Wtf!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:23 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:20 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:20 Elyvilon wrote:On June 13 2014 19:19 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:17 Shellshock wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote: no peter pan zerg please worst title ever I still think Renaissance Nerd was the worst. I guess someone said Wolf tried to make Maru the "Pocket Terran" or something which is pretty bad too Who was given the title of Renaissance Nerd? NaDa What Nada is, and always will be, the Tornado Terran not according to Tastosis unfortunately Weren't Tastosis actually around when NaDa was the indisputable best BW player? They really should know that one...
I bet they know it, they'd just like to make the title they came up with be the big thing. Seems like a lot of casters do that
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How the march of the ents should have ended lol
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what the hell was that lol
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Jesus, what was that? LOL
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Well that was stupid. The forcefields alone was enough to win. True forgot about ff
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United States97276 Posts
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That looked threatening for about 12 seconds
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Austria24417 Posts
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On June 13 2014 19:24 aZealot wrote: MVP and Nestea streaming! Wtf! Drewbie too!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:25 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: How the march of the ents should have ended lol
If there were collapsible rocks nearby this could have worked out like it did for the ents
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what? queen ling corruptor? what tha fuck
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Did he lose his phoenixes ? He should have sent them to the other side of the map before the fight begins.
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Good transition from TRUE
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The backup is always Mass mutas... =\
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United States13143 Posts
I wonder if that could have actually worked if true had built less corruptors and used those resources to build other things
probably not
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WTF is True doing, hes got to be desperate to do that strat, he should just GG out this one
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Could TRUE have gotten lings into the main after the army was forcefielded away in that queen fight?
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I love that composition though, True just have to play it out right now. The map works in his favour.
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United Kingdom36158 Posts
is it me or is there a pixel out on their video
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On June 13 2014 19:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Could TRUE have gotten lings into the main after the army was forcefielded away in that queen fight?
Pretty sure Zest still had a block at ramp. Might have been worth a try, but I'd bet Zest would be on top of it.
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Zest just looks way too good.
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Haha that was some pretty shoddy micro on the muta/corruptor ball.
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Now, that is TRUE that we all know, the most sloppy Zerg alive. :D
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Not enough terrans in this Code S. Rough for TRUE.
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When all else fails. Make Muta (or Swarmhost). Ugh.
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Okay Zest phoenixes are too strong it seems, I thought True had a chance.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I would not want to face Zest in PvZ tt
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True ought to make ultras?
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:29 Ketch wrote: True ought to make ultras? it might be his best bet composition wise but he doesnt even have an infestation pit yet i dont think. time for swarmhosts
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On June 13 2014 19:29 aZealot wrote: When all else fails. Make Muta (or Swarmhost). Ugh.
Haha, but how is any other unit supposed not to fail vs Protoss? You can't fight them straight up.
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Austria24417 Posts
IS THAN AN S WRITTEN WITH PYLONS?!
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Whoah he got completely surrounded there.
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Never have I seen so many stalkers been beaten by lings lol
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Yes, that's why I like this so much, you can flood with lings .
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:29 Zealously wrote: I would not want to face Zest in PvZ tt
and I mean I wouldn't want to face TRUE either I suppose
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I don't get how Zest is loosing he nearly won every battle but can't attack TRUE.
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What upgrades has TRUE got on his air?
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A zerg with that eco will take forever to kill, True could win this.
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TRUE is one of the most stubborn players I have ever seen and I kinda think I admire him for it.
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:31 Circumstance wrote: What upgrades has TRUE got on his air? +2 attack +1 carapace
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he made an S with his cannons lol
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Where/how can I check winrates for maps?
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Peter Pan zerg is definitely one of the most entertaining players around.
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Don't think Zest is that behind honestly, the map is just weird
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On June 13 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: Wow late inf pit. For TRUE it's actually pretty early.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:32 KingofdaHipHop wrote: TRUE is one of the most stubborn players I have ever seen and I kinda think I admire him for it.
TRUE is the kind of player that doesn't realize he's supposed to be dead until he's already won the game
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On June 13 2014 19:31 Thrillz wrote: I don't get how Zest is loosing he nearly won every battle but can't attack TRUE.
Zest was 2 bases behind almost the entire game. That's quite a big deal. True made some mistakes, but being 2 bases up definitely made up for that xD
But I still think Zest wins, it's hard to kill a protoss on such a huge map :o
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Wow I fell half way into this game... True is only going to infestation pit now??? Ieuhw... imagine 3-3 cracklings 8 minutes ago...
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On June 13 2014 19:24 aZealot wrote: MVP and Nestea streaming! Wtf!
I've been watching Mvp stream a few times now. His mouse movements are so slow, I've never seen anyone moving his mouse this slowly in SC2. I guess that's because of his injury that he can't move his mouse as quickly. He should probably turn up his DPI. For some reason Koreans are all playing with super-low DPI but Mvp obviously can't do that anymore with his injuries.
Back to the games: gogo True! Most entertaining Zerg left in GSL for sure. His games are somehow always fun to watch
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Guessing ultra switch could take it.
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17 Phoenixes against ~10 Corruptors and ~30 Mutas, with solid micro Phoenixes beat that easily. If True doesn't hit a Fungal, I don't think this game will last for much longer.
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United States13143 Posts
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No answer for the archons.
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Why isn't True upgrading ground units? He has 2/2 for air but only 1/1 for lings and plenty of gas.
EDIT: There we go.
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2-2 melee at 28 minutes... fml
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United States97276 Posts
Hive tech was so late jeez
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Wow, that was some big throw by True... not upgrading his lings and such a slow hive
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If the ultra caver was ready earlier maybe.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
TRUE needs like 250 banelings
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8 ultras, but they will be too slow... hmm Zest is not pushing on
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Where is the Templar Archive?! 30+ mins in, you should have acces to HT's imo.
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Zests bank should see him win this
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United States97276 Posts
This game has definitely been more interesting than the first series at least
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It's rarely good to attack on alterzim. Zest didn't look too shiny but I think he played that the right way ultimately.
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Why would you only have one overseer in your army. :/
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On June 13 2014 19:38 WTCO wrote: Why would you only have one overseer in your army. :/ Because you are TRUE!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:38 WTCO wrote: Why would you only have one overseer in your army. :/ Because you are TRUE!
Pretty weak by TRUE in my opinion, should've been 0
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Big Mommaship in the house
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On June 13 2014 19:38 Nebuchad wrote: It's rarely good to attack on alterzim. Zest didn't look too shiny but I think he played that the right way ultimately.
Yep... really don't like the map :-/
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Is there anything TRUE can do to come back?
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Those phoenixes got sharked
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Is there anything TRUE can do to come back?
Killing Zest is about it I think
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United States97276 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Is there anything TRUE can do to come back? not after losing all that
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Isn't this map really bad to watch games on? True just throws really bad attacks at Zest without them doing much, and yet Zest can't counterattack. It looks more like Zest playing a game of tower defense than a Starcraft game with attacks and counterattacks.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Zest using the invisible unit hack
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 10% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (7) 35% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (11) 55% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On June 13 2014 19:41 diverzee wrote: Isn't this map really bad to watch games on? True just throws really bad attacks at Zest without them doing much, and yet Zest can't counterattack. It looks more like Zest playing a game of tower defense than a Starcraft game with attacks and counterattacks. He can counterattack, but he refuses to do so.
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Zest is on another level to TRUE.
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United States97276 Posts
figured that game would have ended much quicker after that weird queen attack
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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That was a good game from TRUE over all. I feel if he was more on top of his tech switches and his upgrades, he might've had a great chance.
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Muta/ling forever killed him
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Look at Zest. A comeback like that and he looks like he was playing a soO vs. Solar game.
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that game was better than the entire first match
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On June 13 2014 19:43 Schelim wrote: that game was better than the entire first match
Longer too probably.
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United States97276 Posts
Zest should probably just end these quick. Just a skill level mismatch
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:42 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 1?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 10% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (7) 35% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (11) 55% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On June 13 2014 19:44 Shellshock wrote: Zest should probably just end these quick. Just a skill level mismatch He sees no reason to though. If he can win without taking huge risks, that's what he's gonna do.
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I guess this will be going 3-0 Zest?
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Austria24417 Posts
Looks like exact same build from TRUE
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:44 Shellshock wrote: Zest should probably just end these quick. Just a skill level mismatch
He's trying out new stuff for his match against soO
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Austria24417 Posts
Once again Zest knows, making void rays constantly
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On June 13 2014 19:47 boxerfred wrote: I guess this will be going 3-0 Zest?
I think True is definitely capable of taking a game or even two (if he's lucky), he's pretty good at scrappy games and if he can force such a game on Zest this might just work out well for him
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United States13143 Posts
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Game 1 all over again!? 13 Queens... tons of Lings... will get shut down again probably.
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When it fails once.... you try and try again?
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On June 13 2014 19:52 Yello wrote:I think True is definitely capable of taking a game or even two (if he's lucky), he's pretty good at scrappy games and if he can force such a game on Zest this might just work out well for him You're kind of optimistic. I call that a 3-0.
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Nahh my eyes are deceiving me , same strat again !!!
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On June 13 2014 19:53 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:52 Yello wrote:On June 13 2014 19:47 boxerfred wrote: I guess this will be going 3-0 Zest? I think True is definitely capable of taking a game or even two (if he's lucky), he's pretty good at scrappy games and if he can force such a game on Zest this might just work out well for him You're kind of optimistic. I call that a 3-0.
definitely 2-0 after this T.T
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what the hell are the lings doing
why is true doing this build again
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wtf the zerglings had to engage the main army
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Shouldve targeted the colossi and then attack with lings
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Wait, what did he kill with his Corruptors? The Colossus lived like... forever, didn't they?
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Haha, wtf where the Zerglings doing there? This could have gone a whole lot better for TRUE.
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lol at those lings attacking the cannons ??
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traitor lings. i think he wanted to snipe all the colossus first but it took way too long.
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Will True try it again in game 3?
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JERGALING JERGALING JERGALING
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why the fuck didn't he use his lings, with the ling reinforcements it could've worked, just need to focus the colossi, he killed them last
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Wonder if True is gonna do a Flash and try it a third time, even after two fails.
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what the fuck is TRUE doing...
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Imagine if he had attacked with those lings as well.
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omg TRUE, why not drone ur 4th and get 2-2...
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I don't know why are you guys so surprised, TRUE is literally the sloppiest Zerg out of all professional Zergs I've seen.
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On June 13 2014 19:54 Topdoller wrote: Will True try it again in game 3?
I hope so, InCa has retired long ago, it's time for a new generation.
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On June 13 2014 19:54 Kasaraki wrote: Imagine if he had attacked with those lings as well.
He couldn't. Using Lings while Colossus are alive is kinda suicidal :o But I'm still wondering WHAT he was targeting with his Corruptors. I didn't even see that much stuff the Corruptors are able to attack :-/
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Code S quality sure got a different meaning today
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wtf why is True going for the army? That's so risky
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Is looking way better for TRUE this game
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lol Zest has no Phoenixes.
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Why didn't he make Phoenixes? Got range and didn;t make any lol
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I don't care if it works or not, this is really entertaining
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this is so cool, please make it work once!
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This is why I hate mutas with a passion.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Are we certain TRUE isn't Nestea? Cause he fucking plays like Nestea.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 4% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 8% ★★★- Good game (7) 28% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (13) 52% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 8% 25 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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That was bizzare. He saw the mutas, and had phoenix range and still didn't make any. Weird.
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I am really starting to like True, he clearly doesnt give two hoots on current meta hehe
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Great game by True
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Zest forgot to make phoenix?
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Can someone better at StarCraft than me explain to me why Zest chose not to build Pheonixes?
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On June 13 2014 19:57 stuchiu wrote: Are we certain TRUE isn't Nestea? Cause he fucking plays like Nestea.
Nope. TRUE dies to DT's, NesTea beat Inca!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:57 Logros wrote: This is why I hate mutas with a passion.
But you love True, yes?
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Win or lose, TRUE is damn entertaining.
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Canada8157 Posts
Zest man start winning some games when I watch
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Jokes aside, TRUE is legit tonight. Even if he loses in the end, he fights like it's his last game ever. Valiant effort.
How were soO games?
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On June 13 2014 19:58 Crot4le wrote: Can someone better at StarCraft than me explain to me why Zest chose not to build Pheonixes? Tbh I think it was just overconfidence.
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On June 13 2014 19:58 Skynx wrote: Zest forgot to make phoenix? I think that he was constantly making Stalkers and didn't have enough resources for constant Phoenix Production.
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On June 13 2014 19:38 Girondelle wrote: Zest is so good vs mutas
Well...
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haha nice, if he uses his lings more this will work even better
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That honestly should of not worked lol. Zest knew it was the exact built and beat it before.
But for some reason he decides not to make Phoenixes this time? lol.
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Hallmark of a strong player: Identifying an error and correcting it immediately.
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TRUE really hates Roaches, I can tell.
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The thing is, you have to hold vs the lings too, so can't put everything into phoenixes either. If you can just contain the protoss on 3 bases, you can win with this strat. I really like it .
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 19:57 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 2?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 4% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2) 8% ★★★- Good game (7) 28% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (13) 52% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 8% 25 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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So why did they buff mutas exactly?
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On June 13 2014 19:59 Circumstance wrote: Hallmark of a strong player: Identifying an error and correcting it immediately. I am not sure what are you referring to?
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On June 13 2014 19:58 Crot4le wrote: Can someone better at StarCraft than me explain to me why Zest chose not to build Pheonixes?
imho i think is match fixing 2-1 for zest . but i'm paranoid with korean games.
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Brilliant strat by True, he's becoming one of my favourite players. My votes on him on liquibet, now go finish!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly?
Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS
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well TRUE just re(kt) Zest
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On June 13 2014 19:59 Circumstance wrote: Hallmark of a strong player: Identifying an error and correcting it immediately.
He totally corrected Zest into not making Phoenixes.
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On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Designated balance discussion thread... posted DKs quote there 15mins ago.
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On June 13 2014 20:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:59 Circumstance wrote: Hallmark of a strong player: Identifying an error and correcting it immediately. I am not sure what are you referring to?
Screwing up a winnable game, then winning decisively with the same comp in the next one.
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Austria24417 Posts
I think Zest throws in a 2base attack now. No way TRUE holds anything with this build
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True is going to lose so hard with that strat if zest goes zealot archon
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On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS
Unfortunately trying to balance gameplay does always means fun gameplay.
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On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS
What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me.
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I have to nominate this song for the worst one ever used in GSL.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me.
They wanted to encourage "board control" as well I think
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On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me.
Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though.
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On June 13 2014 20:02 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:00 Ramiz1989 wrote:On June 13 2014 19:59 Circumstance wrote: Hallmark of a strong player: Identifying an error and correcting it immediately. I am not sure what are you referring to? Screwing up a winnable game, then winning decisively with the same comp in the next one. You got that wrong, Zest is the one that screwed up in the next game, not TRUE in the first...
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On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Phoenix range also got increased from 4 to 5 + the oracle would make stargate openings possible
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On June 13 2014 20:03 Raygun wrote: I have to nominate this song for the worst one ever used in GSL.
Yep, I tried to figure out what it is - but... didn't work out xD
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On June 13 2014 20:03 Raygun wrote: I have to nominate this song for the worst one ever used in GSL. GET OUT! This song is great! :D
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On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. True wins 1 game with mutas and the balance whine is already started?
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Maybe I'm overthinking it, but maybe Zest didn't build Phoenixes caues he respected TRUE. Zest was sure that TRUE saw that he was ready for the the Phoenix transition and thus thought that TRUE wouldn't build a ton of mutas again, especially after losing that game, and chose not to build phoenixes. That may just be overthinking though.
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On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck.
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On June 13 2014 20:03 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS Unfortunately trying to balance gameplay does always means fun gameplay.
Muta's are very fun to watch IMO. Swarm hosts are way more boring, and lings roaches and hydras bumping against forcefields makes me sad.
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On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me.
Uhm... I'm quite happy there's more variation in ZvP nowadays. With the Phoenix Range upgrade, Muta's were basically deleted from the matchup until the buff came.
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On June 13 2014 20:07 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:03 Thrillz wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS Unfortunately trying to balance gameplay does always means fun gameplay. Muta's are very fun to watch IMO. Swarm hosts are way more boring, and lings roaches and hydras bumping against forcefields makes me sad.
yeah, mutas are fun to watch. But they are just about the worst thing to play against as Terran or Protoss, that's why many people hate them
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On June 13 2014 20:05 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Maybe I'm overthinking it, but maybe Zest didn't build Phoenixes caues he respected TRUE. Zest was sure that TRUE saw that he was ready for the the Phoenix transition and thus thought that TRUE wouldn't build a ton of mutas again, especially after losing that game, and chose not to build phoenixes. That may just be overthinking though.
Players like True do very well in situations like that previous game. If Zest makes phoenix when he knows there are already corrupters on the field and double evo he is putting himself into a very difficult game. If he doesnt make mutas and he makes phoenix he loses badly, if he makes phoenix and then true masses mutas and corrupters or a few infestors he will probably lose on the air and ground. Not to mention he will be on fewer bases.
The game was already over by the time zest could have made phoenix but did not.
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On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck.
pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before . corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors .
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Germany25649 Posts
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
His brother is not sOs, he failed his exams from Weedamins, he was never mentored by Gaulzi, his father was not Has and his Soul was not Partings.
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On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck. pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before . corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors .
Didn't phoenix get the range upgrade in WoL already? :o
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Germany25649 Posts
That Hot6 advertisement logo thing actually looks pretty cool. Well done ^^
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On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck. pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before . corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors . They don't have the same range. Phoenixes got 5 and 7 after the upgrade, Corruptors have 6.
When Phoenixes are upgraded, they beat every Zerg air unit in equal numbers, and you pretty much need mass Queens/Hydras or Infestors to beat them.
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On June 13 2014 20:12 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck. pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before . corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors . Didn't phoenix get the range upgrade in WoL already? :o Yeah I'm pretty sure Anion Pulse Crystals was added during WoL and the muta buff was part of HotS.
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On June 13 2014 20:12 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck. pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before . corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors . Didn't phoenix get the range upgrade in WoL already? :o Yeah but back then it was 4 range into 6 range. Now it's 5 into 7
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On June 13 2014 20:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:12 Swisslink wrote:On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck. pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before . corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors . Didn't phoenix get the range upgrade in WoL already? :o Yeah I'm pretty sure Anion Pulse Crystals was added during WoL and the muta buff was part of HotS.
Phoenix' default range got upgrade from 4 to 5 in HotS due to the Muta buffs.
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On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck. pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before . corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors . Is that what you tell yourself when you use phoenix to outrange corruptors and beat the zerg? Lol
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On June 13 2014 20:12 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:09 xsnac wrote:On June 13 2014 20:06 boxerfred wrote:On June 13 2014 20:04 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:03 WTCO wrote:On June 13 2014 20:01 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:00 WTCO wrote: So why did they buff mutas exactly? Because they were considered too weak with the additions that came with HotS What, widow mines? So they made them super strong vs. Protoss because of ZvT? That doesn't sound like good design to me. Old mutas could never beat new phoenixes though. New mutas could never beat new phoenixes, too. Not in even numbers and stuff. Also, corruptors lose to mass phoenix which is fun. Corrupters in general just suck. pheonix were buffed after mutas were buffed . in response to keep it just like before . corruptors dont lose neighter win vs pheonix . they have same range . if protoss "stack" 20 pheonix and zerg is careless he will lost coruptors ( if they are not stacked ) . but corruptor stack vs pheonix stack is usualy win for corruptors . Didn't phoenix get the range upgrade in WoL already? :o
i dont remember exactly but i'm pretty sure in the end of wol parting lost to curious in code s and curious was using mutas . i dont remember too good anyway . anyway range is to counter the acceleration of mutas so everything changed but nothing changed sort of situation .
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now let's see if queen-ling is able to defend this
okay, True is fine
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United States13143 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
TRUE is the next zerg bonjwa
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Hahaha queens are so strong
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I don't think Zest realized there is an in built defense with this build.
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You rarely see a Zest attack fail so hard.
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Imagine destiny's troll build becoming the new meta
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Queens, the good old counter to everything while still being one of the best lategame units.
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On June 13 2014 20:15 KingofdaHipHop wrote: TRUE is gonna die. Not TRUE that
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Wow, soO just murdered Solar. Almost making it look like Solar wasn't Ro8 material.
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I think Zest didn't believe that TRUE has the gall to do the same build thrice.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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I'm not sure what's more embarrassing...
That TRUE only has one strategy
Or that Zest for some reason is failing to beat the exact same strategy.
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On June 13 2014 20:17 CruelZeratul wrote: Queens, the good old counter to everything while still being one of the best lategame units. The only thing bad about them is you can't rally them.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:17 stuchiu wrote: 1-1 into SH I think. TRUE prefers his infestors
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On June 13 2014 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote: I think Zest didn't believe that TRUE has the gall to do the same build thrice.
NEVER underestimate the level of gall that can be shown from a Jin Air player.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote: 13 MINUTE HIVE FOR TRUE? Peter Pan zerg has grown up
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On June 13 2014 20:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Imagine destiny's troll build becoming the new meta Ddint he get all the way to Diamond with it?
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Does this Hive timing qualify as mindgames?
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Blizz likes harass strats and so they made Medivac Boost, which resulted in Protoss needing Photon Overcharge, which nowadays Terran whine about. Zerg needed a Muta buff to stop these Medivacs. Which resulted in Phoenix needing more range and a Spore +Bio buff. Which resulted in Swarm Host being the ultimate end composition in ZvZ and thus Broodlord got Frenzy.
I'm of course being ironic, but I like to believe there's some ounce of truth in it. SC2 keeps getting better and better and it's weird because these patches look so weird, when they release them.
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On June 13 2014 20:19 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Imagine destiny's troll build becoming the new meta Ddint he get all the way to Diamond with it? Yeah and that was before the queen range buff afaik
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If True ends up with broodlords instead of ultras, that would be sick
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Uh oh Zest is prepared for the Ultras.
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On June 13 2014 20:17 Thrillz wrote: I'm not sure what's more embarrassing...
That TRUE only has one strategy
Or that Zest for some reason is failing to beat the exact same strategy.
Having only one strategy is not embarassing, it's the ultimate goal for any zerg. A build that beats anything thrown at you and allows you to transition however you want.
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On June 13 2014 20:19 Ketch wrote: If True ends up with broodlords instead of ultras, that would be sick You should cast.
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On June 13 2014 20:17 Thrillz wrote: I'm not sure what's more embarrassing...
That TRUE only has one strategy
Or that Zest for some reason is failing to beat the exact same strategy. This is actually quite different from last 2 games. He is using same composition at the start, sure, but he is now upgrading his units really fast, getting really fast Hive, Infestors, Ultras and Cracklings.
In last 2 games he relied too much on Mutas and Lings.
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How many colossuses has Zest hallucinated by now?
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broodlords will end the game if he does not get split hit
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On June 13 2014 20:20 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:17 Thrillz wrote: I'm not sure what's more embarrassing...
That TRUE only has one strategy
Or that Zest for some reason is failing to beat the exact same strategy. Having only one strategy is not embarassing, it's the ultimate goal for any zerg. A build that beats anything thrown at you and allows you to transition however you want.
It's the ultimate goal if that one build is ideal. But TRUE's build is easily countered.
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On June 13 2014 20:20 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:17 Thrillz wrote: I'm not sure what's more embarrassing...
That TRUE only has one strategy
Or that Zest for some reason is failing to beat the exact same strategy. Having only one strategy is not embarassing, it's the ultimate goal for any zerg. A build that beats anything thrown at you and allows you to transition however you want. Abathur would be proud
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On June 13 2014 20:20 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:19 Ketch wrote: If True ends up with broodlords instead of ultras, that would be sick You should cast.
Yeah this was such a good strat, but Zest has Tempest as well, but True can now push up to the 4th
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I'm not sure if True can win lategame on King Sejong without swarmhosts
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BroLords on the way. Zest doing all that fancy mind game crap, True is immune to it
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Please make overseers TRUE
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This game is getting really good.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
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That was very well done by TRUE
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United Kingdom36158 Posts
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Still just 1 overseer omg
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Hahaha how does that overseer still live???
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If Tempests shooting at Lings isn't the definition of fear, I don't know what is.
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More overseers not even needed haha.
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Wow what a great engagement from TRUE
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United States13143 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:21 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:20 Musicus wrote:On June 13 2014 20:17 Thrillz wrote: I'm not sure what's more embarrassing...
That TRUE only has one strategy
Or that Zest for some reason is failing to beat the exact same strategy. Having only one strategy is not embarassing, it's the ultimate goal for any zerg. A build that beats anything thrown at you and allows you to transition however you want. It's the ultimate goal if that one build is ideal. But TRUE's build is easily countered. I'm not saying you're wrong, but what's the counter?
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wow true is playing really well
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Wow, amazing play by TRUE. Color me impressed! :O
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Queens in timestop is still the saddest thing in the game :D
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 4% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (3) 12% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (17) 65% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5) 19% 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Guess you need Swarm Hosts to deal with late-game Protoss.
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Shoulda killed the one overseer lol...
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So wait... TRUE is kinda destroying Zest! :o Seems to be the perfect build against Zerst xD
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Canada8157 Posts
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Man Trues fungals are lethal he never misses
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On June 13 2014 20:24 ZAiNs wrote: Guess you need Swarm Hosts to deal with late-game Protoss.
Hum?
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Zest is like... what?Why?how?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
I just can't stop smiling, lol. It's so sick.
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wow... if true only didn't throw alterzim.. 3-0
Playing so sick, not expected
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:24 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (1) 4% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0) 0% ★★★- Good game (3) 12% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (17) 65% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5) 19% 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On June 13 2014 20:24 Thrillz wrote: Shoulda killed the one overseer lol...
I guess True was ready to transfuse, but Zest never ever targeted the Overseer even, I was watching it
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On June 13 2014 20:24 Strela wrote: 3-0 zest baby!
What?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
TRUE rips off his mask to reveal Kwanro who rips off his mask to reveal Nestea who rips off his mask to reveal Kyrix who rips off his mask to reveal July who rips off his mask to reveal Suhosin who rips off his mask to reveal who rips off his mask to reveal Shine who rips off his mask to reveal Hyvaa who rips off his mask to reveal Curious.
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Wow Zest looks flustered.
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On June 13 2014 20:21 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:20 Musicus wrote:On June 13 2014 20:17 Thrillz wrote: I'm not sure what's more embarrassing...
That TRUE only has one strategy
Or that Zest for some reason is failing to beat the exact same strategy. Having only one strategy is not embarassing, it's the ultimate goal for any zerg. A build that beats anything thrown at you and allows you to transition however you want. It's the ultimate goal if that one build is ideal. But TRUE's build is easily countered.
I guess True prepared this to work against Zest at least. He won't just go and do a zealot/archon all-in. It's working so far.
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We are one map away from having the defending champion, the ultimate Royal Roader, get knocked out by a player who not long ago was just "some Proleague dude".
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On June 13 2014 20:25 stuchiu wrote: TRUE rips off his mask to reveal Kwanro who rips off his mask to reveal Nestea who rips off his mask to reveal Kyrix who rips off his mask to reveal July who rips off his mask to reveal Suhosin who rips off his mask to reveal who rips off his mask to reveal Shine who rips off his mask to reveal Hyvaa who rips off his mask to reveal Curious.
Nice, but you forgot to put Tom Cruise in there somewhere
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On June 13 2014 20:25 stuchiu wrote: who rips off his mask to reveal who rips off his mask ggnore
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I still think that Zest's first attack should have done a lot more... all those Zealots and Phoenixes could've killed a ton of Drones, Queens and Lings if he just controlled his Phoenixes and lifted all of those Queens. Instead, he got shut down hard, and TRUE just kept macroing and teching really fast into unstoppable army.
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Seems like Zest is giving TRUE waaaayyy too much respect and giving TRUE freedom.
Whatever happen to you are a scrub until proven otherwise?
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On June 13 2014 20:25 stuchiu wrote: TRUE rips off his mask to reveal Kwanro who rips off his mask to reveal Nestea who rips off his mask to reveal Kyrix who rips off his mask to reveal July who rips off his mask to reveal Suhosin who rips off his mask to reveal who rips off his mask to reveal Shine who rips off his mask to reveal Hyvaa who rips off his mask to reveal Curious. wow Curious must have a really small head
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If Zest doesn't make it through soO will cruise into the finals
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I want TRUE to win, nothing against Zest, I just know that he might just win it all if he gets to RO4, he is so damn good. I want to not know who has the best chance to win.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:26 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:25 stuchiu wrote: TRUE rips off his mask to reveal Kwanro who rips off his mask to reveal Nestea who rips off his mask to reveal Kyrix who rips off his mask to reveal July who rips off his mask to reveal Suhosin who rips off his mask to reveal who rips off his mask to reveal Shine who rips off his mask to reveal Hyvaa who rips off his mask to reveal Curious. Nice, but you forgot to put Tom Cruise in there somewhere
Tom Cruise would never accept Zerg or Protoss!
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On June 13 2014 20:25 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: wow... if true only didn't throw alterzim.. 3-0
Playing so sick, not expected
Well, if only Zest didn't throw Overgrowth 2-1.
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Banebust the front now to make it a perfect hat-trick
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Austria24417 Posts
I don't even know how to play against this build. You can't just go zealot/archon vs zerg, it doesn't work.
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On June 13 2014 20:26 AWalker9 wrote: If Zest doesn't make it through soO will cruise into the finals
You say that now, but Zest's win at the start of the day was taken as a foregone conclusion.
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Is True a genius or does he not understand the game? Such unorthodox play. It still annoys me when he doesn't get 3 3 despite sitting on 2k/2k I mean wtf True.
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On June 13 2014 20:28 IAMPRO wrote: Is True a genius or does he not understand the game? Such unorthodox play. It still annoys me when he doesn't get 3 3 despite sitting on 2k/2k I mean wtf True. You say whaaaaaat
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On June 13 2014 20:26 AWalker9 wrote: If Zest doesn't make it through soO will cruise into the finals
Well I expected Zest to cruise through TRUE tbh. Zest is (meant to be at least) incredible versus Zerg. He wrecked Soulkey yet is struggling against TRUE...wth?
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On June 13 2014 20:27 DarkLordOlli wrote: I don't even know how to play against this build. You can't just go zealot/archon vs zerg, it doesn't work.
Good sign . If Olli hates it, I love it.
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end of the line for zest I'm afraid.
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On June 13 2014 20:28 IAMPRO wrote: Is True a genius or does he not understand the game? Such unorthodox play. It still annoys me when he doesn't get 3 3 despite sitting on 2k/2k I mean wtf True.
well he was upgrading with 2 spires
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wow... if true only didn't throw alterzim.. 3-0 Yes as much as i like the ling/queen/corruptor, trading minerals for gas, which means Mutas will reign supreme, it's not ideal to walk cross position alterzim with Queens.
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Preparation>skill gap it would appear
It is obvious True spent many hours preparing for this match. Countering zest's build with a build that fits his own style, and then still drone scouting and making small changes based on what he sees. I do not think most people are able to see how amazing mentally true has played. Zest seems confused as well...
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Why don't they do the player introductions anymore?
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Austria24417 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:28 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:27 DarkLordOlli wrote: I don't even know how to play against this build. You can't just go zealot/archon vs zerg, it doesn't work. Good sign  . If Olli hates it, I love it.
I dunno if I hate it yet. It's a really smart build. Rage inducing but very smart.
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Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter....
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TRUE is such a beast. Zest looking more than a bit confused right now.
It would be so awesome to have 50% Jin Air in the semifinals (especially given that I felt both Maru and TRUE were sure to lose in the Ro8).
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Austria24417 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:30 Ketch wrote: Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter....
I dunno, 10 queens? What sort of pressure do you even try to do damage against that?
Old FFE -> +1 4gate pressure is what I thought but I dunno man... That build is semi-dead for a reason
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On June 13 2014 20:28 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:26 AWalker9 wrote: If Zest doesn't make it through soO will cruise into the finals Well I expected Zest to cruise through TRUE tbh. Zest is (meant to be at least) incredible versus Zerg. He wrecked Soulkey yet is struggling against TRUE...wth?
After Katowice, I remember thinking that there's nothing scarier than an sOs with time to prepare. TRUE is sOs's teammate, and this just might be spreading.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:30 Ketch wrote: Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter.... I dunno, 10 queens? What sort of pressure do you even try to do damage against that?
Warp Prism sentry ff the ramp.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:30 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:28 Crot4le wrote:On June 13 2014 20:26 AWalker9 wrote: If Zest doesn't make it through soO will cruise into the finals Well I expected Zest to cruise through TRUE tbh. Zest is (meant to be at least) incredible versus Zerg. He wrecked Soulkey yet is struggling against TRUE...wth? After Katowice, I remember thinking that there's nothing scarier than an sOs with time to prepare. TRUE is sOs's teammate, and this just might be spreading.
He had a week to prepare for Shine's 10 pool and died.
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On June 13 2014 20:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 Ketch wrote: Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter.... I dunno, 10 queens? What sort of pressure do you even try to do damage against that? Warp Prism sentry ff the ramp. Stuchiu so clever.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 Ketch wrote: Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter.... I dunno, 10 queens? What sort of pressure do you even try to do damage against that? Warp Prism sentry ff the ramp.
The only thing that could possibly be more infuriating would be a proxy oracle before that
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lol 96 gas for TRUE 
edi: UH-OH I think he actually forgot lingspeed...
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On June 13 2014 20:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:28 Musicus wrote:On June 13 2014 20:27 DarkLordOlli wrote: I don't even know how to play against this build. You can't just go zealot/archon vs zerg, it doesn't work. Good sign  . If Olli hates it, I love it. I dunno if I hate it yet. It's a really smart build. Rage inducing but very smart.
I know you don't like to play vs the muta/corruptor style. This build with the queens seems even safer with more possible transitions. He can do his attack, walking over the map with queens and follow up with Mutas, or stay back and have ultra/broodlord which go great with the queen count. A Protoss horror really.
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Austria24417 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:31 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 Ketch wrote: Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter.... I dunno, 10 queens? What sort of pressure do you even try to do damage against that? Warp Prism sentry ff the ramp.
But 10 QUEENS?
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On June 13 2014 20:32 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:31 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 Ketch wrote: Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter.... I dunno, 10 queens? What sort of pressure do you even try to do damage against that? Warp Prism sentry ff the ramp. The only thing that could possibly be more infuriating would be a proxy oracle before that
proxy double-stargate oracle! Oh yeah, that's the perfect counter to True's build
On June 13 2014 20:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:31 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 Ketch wrote: Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter.... I dunno, 10 queens? What sort of pressure do you even try to do damage against that? Warp Prism sentry ff the ramp. But 10 QUEENS?
still can't crush force fields :p
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TRUE's Queen/Corruptor/Ling attack definitely has potential. It just needs to be better controlled, maybe add some Roaches into the mix with less Queens and we could see something that might work. Of course, this should be used against Phoenix into fast Colossi openers since mass Force Fields with Immortals would shut down this hard.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:31 stuchiu wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:On June 13 2014 20:30 Ketch wrote: Is it the build that True is doing or the lack of pressure by Zest? I think it is more of the latter.... I dunno, 10 queens? What sort of pressure do you even try to do damage against that? Warp Prism sentry ff the ramp. But 10 QUEENS?
Queens are slow as fuck. Unless all 10 are already near the ramp you'll get it off.
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Canada8157 Posts
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Oracle very smart by Zest.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:26 AWalker9 wrote: If Zest doesn't make it through soO will cruise into the finals
Not really, TRUE is amazing in ZvZ, one of the best in GSL right now. And he has already beaten soO this season in Ro32. So, it won't be easy road for soO at all but he plays ZvZs in his semifinals always so, who cares.
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Are the Immortals even necessary? I mean, TRUE hasn't built a single Roach yet :o
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Austria24417 Posts
Woah, I dunno about this. Should be a muta base trade?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
When in doubt, ask Parting to power your Soul. - Book of Protoss Chapter 1.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:33 Jer99 wrote: LR anyone?!
TRUE make units Zest scratch head Protoss die
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:35 DarkLordOlli wrote: Woah, I dunno about this. Should be a muta base trade?
He's hoping the 1 phoenix will deter it.
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poor guy, i thought he stopped mining gas at 96 because he saw ffe, but it ended up making him forget speed
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NO lingspeed
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SIX SPINES? New GSL champion?
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7 queens and 6 spines, never to be broken...
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ROFL 92 slowlings *golfclap
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I think this fails for Zest..
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Austria24417 Posts
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TRUE got this shiz
Get rekt Zest
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Where did the second Immortal go?
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Canada8157 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:35 Zealously wrote:TRUE make units Zest scratch head Protoss die
Please sir may I have some more
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Pffffrt Zest omg... not even good forcefields vs slow lings
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
HAHAHAHAHAH THIS IS THE SECOND MOST SOULLESS TRAIN IVE EVER SEEN
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
TRUE IS A GOD
LITERALLY NESTEA
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OMFG HAHAHAHAHAHAH THIS IS HILARIOUS! :D :D :D
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whit slow longs like a boss loool
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hahahahaha, no speed needed :D:D:D
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:35 Zealously wrote:TRUE make units Zest scratch head Protoss die
Hey I guess I wasn't wrong
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That wasn't GSL winning Zest out there today.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Zest is so fucked, lmfao. GG WE'RE DONE HERE.
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Needed way more zealots against mass lings.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 7% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 11% ★★★- Good game (1) 4% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 18% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (17) 61% 28 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (6) 38% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 44% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Slowlings and queens all day every day Zerg good race hahahahahaha. I need to ladder.
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On June 13 2014 20:36 NarutO wrote: diZESTer
Happy Birthday!
And fuck yeah True, so sick .
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United Kingdom36158 Posts
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Seriously, fuck the haters. gogogo TRUE
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wow, glad I stayed up for this one. TRUE with some great preparation
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The King is dead, and so too is the Kingslayer!
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Now that Zest is out, soO can win this GSL ezpz
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:35 Musicus wrote: wow he forgot speed?
He felt sorry for Zest and gave him a handicap
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:36 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:35 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:33 Jer99 wrote: LR anyone?! TRUE make units Zest scratch head Protoss die Please sir may I have some more
Zest attempts a soul train, TRUE holds with slow lings, 7 queens with a little help from Zest's somewhat lacklustre force fields.
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On June 13 2014 20:36 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:35 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:33 Jer99 wrote: LR anyone?! TRUE make units Zest scratch head Protoss die Hey I guess I wasn't wrong
Best LR 2014!
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Maru v soO finals?
Classic v soO with soO losing again would be... dare I say, Classic.
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ZEST IS DEAD. I CAN REJOICE. GO GO TRUE GSL CHAMPION
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Oh SNAP! TRUEE! This will be an interesting RO4!
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:36 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 4?★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 7% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 11% ★★★- Good game (1) 4% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (5) 18% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (17) 61% 28 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 4? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 5?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1) 6% ★★★- Good game (6) 38% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (7) 44% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2) 13% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend TRUE vs Zest Game 5? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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soO for his third finals confirmed
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speed lings are SO overrated
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if Zest has +1 zealots and forcefields it would be brutal the other way around.
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guys
I liked true before he was cool
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hmm that was the easiest 13-1 odd bet I've ever done haha. WP TRUE. soo probably celebrating like crazy right now too.
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The royal roader is completely shock after being destroy by slow lings
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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ROFL this is like INCA VS NESTEA
EXCEPT THE SAME OPENER WORKS EVERYTIME
LMAOOOOO
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On June 13 2014 20:37 stuchiu wrote:He felt sorry for Zest and gave him a handicap 
yeah, well wasn't enough :D no spines next time please!
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SoO is soO going to win this GSL
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TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Zest completely fell apart there?
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Well wtf were those forcefields against slow ass lings
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I feel it so well for Maru now.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:37 negativedge wrote: guys
I liked true before he was cool
I prefer Ryul2
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On June 13 2014 20:37 Keeemy wrote: Now that Zest is out, soO can win this GSL ezpz TRUE is among the best ZvZ players out there, he won against Life, against SoO and some other good Zergs I can't remember. I think that it will be quite tough for SoO to beat him.
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Austria24417 Posts
I'm so mad right now
HAPPY BIRTHDAY NARUTO
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lol byebye zest. rofl did not expect that
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![[image loading]](http://i.minus.com/ibco3KjJz2KiLD.gif)
Nerf belly pls ._.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:38 Zealously wrote:I prefer Ryul2 Look at this hipster
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Maru, soO, you could see them in the Top 4. But who the hell would have predicted that the Semis would be rounded out with Classic and TRUE?!
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On June 13 2014 20:38 Zealously wrote:I prefer Ryul2 Holy shit it's Ryul2? did forget.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Also Soo must be screaming YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
SK Telecom T1 vs Jin Air GreenWings. AND ALL FOUR AREN'T MAIN HITTERS IN PROLEAGUE.
Glorious.
On June 13 2014 20:39 stuchiu wrote: Also Soo must be screaming YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
He can take his revenge for Ro32 now l0l.
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I dont like any of the top 4 - but I'm default rooting for the Terran!
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Did we just discover that just like colossus are better if you forget Extended Thermal Lance lings are better if you skip speed :D ?
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Poll: More embarassing?Using the same opener and loosing (NesTea vs InCa (9) 75% Loosing to the same opener (TRUE vs Zest) (3) 25% 12 total votes Your vote: More embarassing? (Vote): Using the same opener and loosing (NesTea vs InCa (Vote): Loosing to the same opener (TRUE vs Zest)
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:39 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:38 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:37 negativedge wrote: guys
I liked true before he was cool I prefer Ryul2 Holy shit it's Ryul2? did forget. Ryul2 is Rogue
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Come on! TRUE, what a hero.
What use is a Kingslayer when you're up against queens?
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United Kingdom36158 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:39 Circumstance wrote: Maru, soO, you could see them in the Top 4. But who the hell would have predicted that the Semis would be rounded out with Classic and TRUE?! I'm surprised by TRUE, yes. Not at all by Classic tbh.
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The prince shall be crowned the new king.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:39 Circumstance wrote: Maru, soO, you could see them in the Top 4. But who the hell would have predicted that the Semis would be rounded out with Classic and TRUE?!
Classic and TRUE. kekkekek
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but.. but Zest
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Austria24417 Posts
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It might be a streak of bad luck, but it seems like everyone on KT (except Flash at Shoutcraft) is underperforming a little lately. Well played by TRUE and soO today though! They both clearly deserved to win today.
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On June 13 2014 20:39 SpawnMoarOverlords wrote: Did we just discover that just like colossus are better if you forget Extended Thermal Lance lings are better if you skip speed :D ?
It's an extra 8 lings, not even counting the wasted drones on extractors!
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Today I learned spawningpool is all you need to beat a GSL champion.
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On June 13 2014 20:39 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:39 Wintex wrote:On June 13 2014 20:38 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:37 negativedge wrote: guys
I liked true before he was cool I prefer Ryul2 Holy shit it's Ryul2? did forget. Ryul2 is Rogue oh right shit. cba google
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Two SKT vs Jin Air matches. :o
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: Classic please TT
I like how you've abandoned 3-4 Protoss Hype trains now.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:39 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:39 Wintex wrote:On June 13 2014 20:38 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:37 negativedge wrote: guys
I liked true before he was cool I prefer Ryul2 Holy shit it's Ryul2? did forget. Ryul2 is Rogue
Bonus points
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If Classic loses to Maru, TRUE can just ling bane his way to the championship
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United Kingdom36158 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:40 stuchiu wrote:I like how you've abandoned 3-4 Protoss Hype trains now. like a true protoss
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Well, let's see how it works out in the future. I don't think this shit will work again, tbh. TRUE never built a roach warren, there must be ways to abuse that xD
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tasteless was talking about "perfect" soo game was it today?
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On June 13 2014 20:41 Skynx wrote: If Classic loses to Maru, TRUE can just ling bane his way to the championship Judging by his control in the past, his 198 Banelings will suicide into 4 Thors that are split and will just roll over and die.
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Well i can just make +1 zealots only on ladder now because everyone will be making slow lings lol
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:42 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:41 Skynx wrote: If Classic loses to Maru, TRUE can just ling bane his way to the championship Judging by his control in the past, his 198 Banelings will suicide into 4 Thors that are split and will just roll over and die.
Becoming Nestea is a hard thing to do.
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On June 13 2014 20:40 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:39 Circumstance wrote: Maru, soO, you could see them in the Top 4. But who the hell would have predicted that the Semis would be rounded out with Classic and TRUE?! Classic and TRUE. kekkekek Classic has always been great, no surprise there. But True :D
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I am still so happy, thank you TRUE!!! That was awesome .
I think, beating Olli with TRUE's build is the only thing that would make me happier.
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Geez I cannot explain how sad I am
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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I think that after this we will see a lot more Queens + Lings in the early game instead of Roaches from other pro Zergs, or even some combination.
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On June 13 2014 20:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Today I learned spawningpool is all you need to beat a GSL champion. QFT
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Austria24417 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:40 stuchiu wrote:I like how you've abandoned 3-4 Protoss Hype trains now.
I haven't abandoned any of them. They're my brethren, I feel their pain like it's my own.
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On June 13 2014 20:41 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:39 Lorning wrote:On June 13 2014 20:39 Wintex wrote:On June 13 2014 20:38 Zealously wrote:On June 13 2014 20:37 negativedge wrote: guys
I liked true before he was cool I prefer Ryul2 Holy shit it's Ryul2? did forget. Ryul2 is Rogue Bonus points
TRUE is Alone? That's the only other name he has iirc.
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On June 13 2014 20:45 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Today I learned spawningpool is all you need to beat a GSL champion. QFT Depends, Solar would disagree.
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Poll: Banner for Ro4Game related (I'll put in good work or not release) (12) 55% amazing k-pop (1 hour max of work) (6) 27% No banner from u, windix (4) 18% 22 total votes Your vote: Banner for Ro4 (Vote): Game related (I'll put in good work or not release) (Vote): amazing k-pop (1 hour max of work) (Vote): No banner from u, windix
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Gahhhhhhh Code S finals at the studio again >_< No more hiring big venues I see )-:
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On June 13 2014 20:36 Logros wrote: Needed way more zealots against mass lings. TRUE had a Spire with 1000+ gas so Zest needed Stalkers. His FF were awful .
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I left the LR only to return and see that .. what the fuck.
Please tell me that soO vs. TRUE finals are impossible.
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So the question is:
Is Zest to join the trend of "meteoric rise protoss to best player only to level off"?
Is Classic the next protoss in line to follow the trend and rise?
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On June 13 2014 20:48 boxerfred wrote: I left the LR only to return and see that .. what the fuck.
Please tell me that soO vs. TRUE finals are impossible.
They are. Because soO vs. TRUE semifinals are already a thing.
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On June 13 2014 20:48 boxerfred wrote: I left the LR only to return and see that .. what the fuck.
Please tell me that soO vs. TRUE finals are impossible.
Yeh they play each other next
Maru v Classic winner plays the winner of that in the finals
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On June 13 2014 20:48 boxerfred wrote: I left the LR only to return and see that .. what the fuck.
Please tell me that soO vs. TRUE finals are impossible.
Well they are, as soO vs. TRUE is the semi-final.
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How the hell did Zest loose 3-1? Did Flash hit him on the head with his ruler? What happened TT
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Canada8157 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:49 Thrillz wrote: So the question is:
Is Zest to join the trend of "meteoric rise protoss to best player only to level off"?
Is Classic the next protoss in line to follow the trend and rise?
Yea but whitewing is that protoss not classic
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On June 13 2014 20:49 Thrillz wrote: So the question is:
Is Zest to join the trend of "meteoric rise protoss to best player only to level off"?
Is Classic the next protoss in line to follow the trend and rise? Ro8 is pretty good. Zest has definitely not leveled off (for now at least).
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On June 13 2014 19:15 Orcasgt24 wrote: Dear Zest:
ChooChoo. Just once. That is all
I just had to quote this again, your wish came TRUE. Next time, be careful with what you wish for. Hope that you are happy.
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On June 13 2014 20:50 BlackCompany wrote: How the hell did Zest loose 3-1? Did Flash hit him on the head with his ruler? What happened TT He couldnt beat slowlings
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On June 13 2014 20:51 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:50 BlackCompany wrote: How the hell did Zest loose 3-1? Did Flash hit him on the head with his ruler? What happened TT He couldnt beat slowlings
Ah, a true hero
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On June 13 2014 20:50 Pangpootata wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:49 Thrillz wrote: So the question is:
Is Zest to join the trend of "meteoric rise protoss to best player only to level off"?
Is Classic the next protoss in line to follow the trend and rise? Ro8 is pretty good. Zest has definitely not leveled off (for now at least).
Dear made it to the Ro8 at global after his double wins as well...
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Do you know what time they start? I may be able to do MLG.
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Well Zest, it's cool. Just preform in PL ^^.
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On June 13 2014 20:53 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:50 Pangpootata wrote:On June 13 2014 20:49 Thrillz wrote: So the question is:
Is Zest to join the trend of "meteoric rise protoss to best player only to level off"?
Is Classic the next protoss in line to follow the trend and rise? Ro8 is pretty good. Zest has definitely not leveled off (for now at least). Dear made it to the Ro8 at global after his double wins as well... Yeah but Zest's team still exists and he'll be still doing Proleague so Zest won't fall like Dear did.
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What, Zest failed? So no Maru vP then.. time to lower expectations of finals(thanks true)
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:59 Muffloe wrote: What, Zest failed? So no Maru vP then.. time to lower expectations of finals(thanks true)
Maru vs True finals would be insanely entertaining
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On June 13 2014 21:00 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:59 Muffloe wrote: What, Zest failed? So no Maru vP then.. time to lower expectations of finals(thanks true) Maru vs True finals would be insanely entertaining TRUE will finally be able to build all those banelings he's been itching to build.
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I think soO might be the favorite to win over Maru now lool
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On June 13 2014 21:00 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:59 Muffloe wrote: What, Zest failed? So no Maru vP then.. time to lower expectations of finals(thanks true) Maru vs True finals would be insanely entertaining
Or it could end up being Bogus vs Soulkey 2.0 allins/cheeses and bad games.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Do you know what time they start? I may be able to do MLG. RB BG starts at 11 am PDT Day 2 of MLG starts at 10 am PDT, so I assume the others also start around that time (Day 1 is probably the open bracket so it doesn't take a lot of work)
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Bisutopia19195 Posts
Oh zest. Lol. Way to go Soojwa.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 13 2014 21:00 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:59 Muffloe wrote: What, Zest failed? So no Maru vP then.. time to lower expectations of finals(thanks true) Maru vs True finals would be insanely entertaining
Still will be Classic vs soO, lol. This time soO will have to overcome not only Protoss in the finals but teammate. And SKT T1 will finally win really big tournament and not only Battlegrounds.
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rofl TRUE won?
told you all
Zest'Dead, baby!
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United States6752 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:50 Pangpootata wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:49 Thrillz wrote: So the question is:
Is Zest to join the trend of "meteoric rise protoss to best player only to level off"?
Is Classic the next protoss in line to follow the trend and rise? Ro8 is pretty good. Zest has definitely not leveled off (for now at least).
If a foreigner was doing as well as Zest people would call him the best fucking video game player that ever video gamed. But since zest is not white, TLers seem a lot less impressed by his results.
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Yessssss True, I've got some fun VODs to watch it seems. edit: sorry, TRUE
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I watched all the Zest v True games in their entirety, and I still have no insight into why True just won those games.
Tasteless and Wolf kept talking about on the stream how weird True was playing, and how he kept countering Zest in ways that didn't make sense to Zest.
Can someone with better skills than me explain to me why True just made the best player on the planet look bad in a series? Is there some meta game that I'm not seeing here?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 13 2014 21:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:50 Pangpootata wrote:On June 13 2014 20:49 Thrillz wrote: So the question is:
Is Zest to join the trend of "meteoric rise protoss to best player only to level off"?
Is Classic the next protoss in line to follow the trend and rise? Ro8 is pretty good. Zest has definitely not leveled off (for now at least). If a foreigner was doing as well as Zest people would call him the best fucking video game player that ever video gamed. But since zest is not white, TLers seem a lot less impressed by his results.
I think it has a lot to do with his playing Protoss, too
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On June 13 2014 21:53 Random_0 wrote: I watched all the Zest v True games in their entirety, and I still have no insight into why True just won those games.
Tasteless and Wolf kept talking about on the stream how weird True was playing, and how he kept countering Zest in ways that didn't make sense to Zest.
Can someone with better skills than me explain to me why True just made the best player on the planet look bad in a series? Is there some meta game that I'm not seeing here?
I think True just invented his own meta game.
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On June 13 2014 20:39 Thrillz wrote:Poll: More embarassing?Using the same opener and loosing (NesTea vs InCa (9) 75% Loosing to the same opener (TRUE vs Zest) (3) 25% 12 total votes Your vote: More embarassing? (Vote): Using the same opener and loosing (NesTea vs InCa (Vote): Loosing to the same opener (TRUE vs Zest)
option c, spelling losing incorrectly
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Bisutopia19195 Posts
I think it'd be nice if a protoss won the gsl.
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On June 13 2014 22:14 BisuDagger wrote: I think it'd be nice if a protoss won the gsl. I'd go for another period of GomTvT :/ but I have that strange feeling that it might eventually not happen in the end ..maybe
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On June 13 2014 22:14 BisuDagger wrote: I think it'd be nice if a protoss won the gsl.
GomexPvP and PvProleague wasn't enough? =O
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United States97276 Posts
Loool all those people telling me zest would win
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This is the end of Zest. Wow, with TRUE being semi final, i'm not sure if code S is really omg high skill uber competitive.
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On June 13 2014 12:34 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Solar 3-1 soO
TRUE 0-3 Zest
So I heard you like opposite predictions...
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Wtf, TRUE, this wasn't supposed to happen. So this GSL is confirmed Terran dominated? Because Maru's gonna win it, easily peazily.
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United States7483 Posts
On June 13 2014 20:50 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:49 Thrillz wrote: So the question is:
Is Zest to join the trend of "meteoric rise protoss to best player only to level off"?
Is Classic the next protoss in line to follow the trend and rise? Yea but whitewing is that protoss not classic
Rofl
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OMG I fell asleep to early if True beat Zest..wow
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
What's up with the TRUE haters man he is the heir of NesTea (banelings banelings banelings and lair tech) and the cousin of YugiOh (ridiculous scrappy games and weird builds)
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Zest lost? Well I'll be damned. Never thought that would happen. At least he didn't get beat by a SKT player.
Oh well, this sets us up nicely for a Maru GSL win. That'd be sweet.
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On June 13 2014 23:03 imrusty269 wrote: This is the end of Zest. Wow, with TRUE being semi final, i'm not sure if code S is really omg high skill uber competitive. your logic astounds me. sounds like youre just bitter over zest getting owned.
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On June 14 2014 01:17 JJH777 wrote: Very depressing results. Is today opposite day for you?
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On June 14 2014 01:32 lichter wrote: What's up with the TRUE haters man he is the heir of NesTea (banelings banelings banelings and lair tech) and the cousin of YugiOh (ridiculous scrappy games and weird builds) he is the heir of leenock, who is a younger nestea. remember nestea is from an alternate future timeline wherein time travel has been invented. he traveled back in time to mentor his younger self leenock.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36948 Posts
What KPOP group is the banner supposed to represent?
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On June 14 2014 02:37 Seeker wrote: What KPOP group is the banner supposed to represent? After School
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On June 14 2014 02:28 dirtclodmcgee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 23:03 imrusty269 wrote: This is the end of Zest. Wow, with TRUE being semi final, i'm not sure if code S is really omg high skill uber competitive. your logic astounds me. sounds like youre just bitter over zest getting owned.
He just makes banelings and amove. It's TRUE!
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Can anyone find the Maru vs Soulkey Vods????
They have: Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 1, 2014 GSL Season 2
But Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 2, 2014 GSL Season 2 ->>>>>Missing Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 3, 2014 GSL Season 2 ->>>>>Missing
I have a Season pass. Kind of sad I can't see them.
Thanks in advance.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
This is your reminder that Supernova made TRUE look like a punk in Code A.
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On June 14 2014 03:18 SirPinky wrote: Can anyone find the Maru vs Soulkey Vods????
They have: Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 1, 2014 GSL Season 2
But Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 2, 2014 GSL Season 2 ->>>>>Missing Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 3, 2014 GSL Season 2 ->>>>>Missing
I have a Season pass. Kind of sad I can't see them.
Thanks in advance. They seem to have uploaded two versions of them, with one set having 0:00 length and the other set being normal. Match 2 Set 3: http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/b/537448220 Match 2 Set 4: http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/b/537448221
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On June 14 2014 03:20 stuchiu wrote: This is your reminder that Supernova made TRUE look like a punk in Code A. sadly enough, Supernova is not very good vs drones
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Pretty big upset there, guy who's 3-3 in proleague and never played a Bo5 before beating the GSL and GOM World Championship champion.
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On June 14 2014 03:28 Ricemagical wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 03:18 SirPinky wrote: Can anyone find the Maru vs Soulkey Vods????
They have: Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 1, 2014 GSL Season 2
But Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 2, 2014 GSL Season 2 ->>>>>Missing Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 3, 2014 GSL Season 2 ->>>>>Missing
I have a Season pass. Kind of sad I can't see them.
Thanks in advance. They seem to have uploaded two versions of them, with one set having 0:00 length and the other set being normal. Match 2 Set 3: http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/b/537448220Match 2 Set 4: http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/b/537448221
Thank you for your help sir!
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On June 14 2014 03:28 Ricemagical wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 03:18 SirPinky wrote: Can anyone find the Maru vs Soulkey Vods????
They have: Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 1, 2014 GSL Season 2
But Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 2, 2014 GSL Season 2 ->>>>>Missing Code S Ro8 Match 2 Set 3, 2014 GSL Season 2 ->>>>>Missing
I have a Season pass. Kind of sad I can't see them.
Thanks in advance. They seem to have uploaded two versions of them, with one set having 0:00 length and the other set being normal. Match 2 Set 3: http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/b/537448220Match 2 Set 4: http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/b/537448221
I prefer the simple and minimally supported "Past broadcast".
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Oh no, Zest. Somehow, I felt that happening when I logged off after Game 1. 
(Damn, Artosis really needs to keep his mouth shut, sometimes.)
Oh well, time to root for Classic! Although I'd have no problem with a soOjwa win, either.
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On June 13 2014 21:27 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Do you know what time they start? I may be able to do MLG. RB BG starts at 11 am PDT Day 2 of MLG starts at 10 am PDT, so I assume the others also start around that time (Day 1 is probably the open bracket so it doesn't take a lot of work) I can do days 2 and 3 of both tourneys I think but I might be late if I try to do days 1 of both because of finals. I'll see what I can do tho
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wait, GSL was today? Man with football WC I dont even know any sc2 happening haha
Also Zest shows that we just dont have a best player in the world...
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On June 14 2014 06:05 sharkie wrote: wait, GSL was today? Man with football WC I dont even know any sc2 happening haha
Also Zest shows that we just dont have a best player in the world...
Yes we do. It's him. He is not unbeatable, but he's still the best.
/* end fangirlism */
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I don't think the most recent GSL winner should be called the best in the world simply because of the fact, remember Seed and Sniper?
The best players are the most consistent, right now that's Maru, soO, and Soulkey.
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soO going to be a back to back to back GSL finalist. Very very impressive
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United States97276 Posts
hopefully but he did lose to TRUE once alrady
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On June 14 2014 06:11 silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 06:05 sharkie wrote: wait, GSL was today? Man with football WC I dont even know any sc2 happening haha
Also Zest shows that we just dont have a best player in the world... Yes we do. It's him. He is not unbeatable, but he's still the best. /* end fangirlism */
Yes please cheer for him in code B in 2015.
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On June 14 2014 06:31 Cheren wrote: I don't think the most recent GSL winner should be called the best in the world simply because of the fact, remember Seed and Sniper?
The best players are the most consistent, right now that's Maru, soO, and Soulkey.
Hah I know
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On June 14 2014 06:33 Shellshock wrote: hopefully but he did lose to TRUE once alrady
Yeah, very TRUE
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No tastosis?
not even gonna watch the vods.... tastosis should cast EVERY code S.
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On June 14 2014 07:12 cheekymonkey wrote: No tastosis?
not even gonna watch the vods.... tastosis should cast EVERY code S. wolf and tasteless were pretty good actually
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On June 14 2014 07:12 cheekymonkey wrote: No tastosis?
not even gonna watch the vods.... tastosis should cast EVERY code S. You can't blame Artosis for not being there since he's at Dreamhack. Besides, Wolf and Tasteless didn't do half bad, Tasteless isn't actually that bad of a lead caster.
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On June 14 2014 06:35 silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 06:31 Cheren wrote: I don't think the most recent GSL winner should be called the best in the world simply because of the fact, remember Seed and Sniper?
The best players are the most consistent, right now that's Maru, soO, and Soulkey. Hah I know 
Well, lots of bad players are also pretty consistent "if you know what I mean"
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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2/showgraph.php?liquibet=256)
The betty upset is real
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On June 14 2014 08:40 dirtclodmcgee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 07:12 cheekymonkey wrote: No tastosis?
not even gonna watch the vods.... tastosis should cast EVERY code S. wolf and tasteless were pretty good actually Sarcasm?
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On June 14 2014 09:16 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 08:40 dirtclodmcgee wrote:On June 14 2014 07:12 cheekymonkey wrote: No tastosis?
not even gonna watch the vods.... tastosis should cast EVERY code S. wolf and tasteless were pretty good actually Sarcasm? no, what would give u that impression?
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