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No GSL spoilers please, some of the people tuning in to HSC did not have the chance to watch GSL yet
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 06 2014 14:09 GMT
#301
On June 06 2014 23:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow Bomber throws away an easy TvT win again with proxy rax? wtf lol. Even Balloon has no idea why Bomber didn't even try.


In Bomber's defense he basically got blind countered. His build would work against almost anything but 2rax reaper. Or at least not die completely.
Wat
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 14:10:45
June 06 2014 14:10 GMT
#302
On June 06 2014 23:09 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow Bomber throws away an easy TvT win again with proxy rax? wtf lol. Even Balloon has no idea why Bomber didn't even try.


he didn't know that it was tvt. and he got the worst end build wise twice in a row. The fact that baloon doesn't know how to micro reapers only gave him one game sadly/

Yeah but seriously there's a 2/3 chance his opponent is Protoss or Terran why would you go for blind 2rax in that situation?

And I know 2rax isn't insta loss against those 2 races but it isn't very good most of the time.
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Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
June 06 2014 14:10 GMT
#303
On June 06 2014 23:09 Darkhorse wrote:
What a horrible build choice by Bomber. MUST BE RANDOM OP.

`His race is random? Maybe I should choose a random build too!`
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 06 2014 14:10 GMT
#304
On June 06 2014 23:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:07 ThomasjServo wrote:
Get Balloon on liquid now please Nazgul. So I can cheer for him more convincingly in HSC.

Cheer for him and myInsanity!

I wanted another liquid top three I can make room for Balloon I think.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
June 06 2014 14:10 GMT
#305
On June 06 2014 23:05 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:03 playa wrote:
On June 06 2014 23:01 kaykoose wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:59 playa wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:55 Undead1993 wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:54 playa wrote:
Random is clearly UP. Map hackers rarely get number 1 on ladders and most of them can't even make GM. Clearly, map hacks need buffs, too.

i am not sure wtf this is supposed to tell me


A lot of people make the nonsensical argument revolving around there being so few successful random players, when no one mentions that hardly anyone plays random (there's probably a lot more people map hacking, yet they wouldn't win GSL's either). O, and if you mention that, people would argue that it's too hard to learn random. Frankly, I wouldn't play random because it's close to cheating. And, playing both sides of a mu, actually accelerates your understanding by so much.

And, in a mirror mu, you get to play with a mineral advantage from the get go. People give random players way too much credit. I don't see how you could ever consider a random player an underdog if they have pro level skill, unless they have 1 race that is not at a pro level.

It's a pet peeve. Random has always bothered me more than anything else in the game balance wise. I'd rather play a hacker than a random player. Honest to god.



Not worth discussing this with you then


On a two player map, I start a game at a disadvantage vs a random player. The game stays even vs a map hacker far longer. I'll take a decent start. I can find ways to scout.

The worlds tiniest violin about playing against random, it is seriously a non issue.


It's only a "non issue" due to the fact that no one plays random. If more people were to try playing random, and they were any good, they would start showing the race the random player spawned as, so f'ing fast.

In BW, people would have said the same thing, but anytime a pro played a random player, they always scouted with one of their first workers. It's so irking to know random players have an adv and it's the easiest thing to fix in the world, yet it's left as is. It's not that hard to learn other races. It just isn't. It's actually far easier to be the best at any mu if you play more than one race. I just see it as a double advantage if anything...
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
June 06 2014 14:10 GMT
#306
Balloon's English is pretty baller.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
June 06 2014 14:10 GMT
#307
Damn Balloon speaks English really well.
Hello
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 06 2014 14:10 GMT
#308
On June 06 2014 23:10 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:09 sAsImre wrote:
On June 06 2014 23:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow Bomber throws away an easy TvT win again with proxy rax? wtf lol. Even Balloon has no idea why Bomber didn't even try.


he didn't know that it was tvt. and he got the worst end build wise twice in a row. The fact that baloon doesn't know how to micro reapers only gave him one game sadly/

Yeah but seriously there's a 2/3 chance his opponent is Protoss or Terran why would you go for blind 2rax in that situation?


you can kill a P with godlike micro. And it's not that bad vs T either.
Zest fanboy.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 06 2014 14:11 GMT
#309
Balloon
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
June 06 2014 14:11 GMT
#310
I want to hug Balloon, I hope I'm not the only one here who want to do this.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
June 06 2014 14:11 GMT
#311
On June 06 2014 23:10 Keeemy wrote:
Damn Balloon speaks English really well.

He lived in U.S
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 06 2014 14:11 GMT
#312
FAMOUS!
The Bomber boy
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 06 2014 14:11 GMT
#313
On June 06 2014 23:10 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:09 sAsImre wrote:
On June 06 2014 23:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow Bomber throws away an easy TvT win again with proxy rax? wtf lol. Even Balloon has no idea why Bomber didn't even try.


he didn't know that it was tvt. and he got the worst end build wise twice in a row. The fact that baloon doesn't know how to micro reapers only gave him one game sadly/

Yeah but seriously there's a 2/3 chance his opponent is Protoss or Terran why would you go for blind 2rax in that situation?

And I know 2rax isn't insta loss against those 2 races but it isn't very good most of the time.



You can beat Protoss with 2rax if they open pretty standard or delay the MSC at all. Just bunker hop to the Nexus. You can also defeat many TvT build with it as well including the two common cloak banshee openers. It isn't that bad a decision.
Wat
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 14:11:59
June 06 2014 14:11 GMT
#314
On June 06 2014 23:10 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:05 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 06 2014 23:03 playa wrote:
On June 06 2014 23:01 kaykoose wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:59 playa wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:55 Undead1993 wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:54 playa wrote:
Random is clearly UP. Map hackers rarely get number 1 on ladders and most of them can't even make GM. Clearly, map hacks need buffs, too.

i am not sure wtf this is supposed to tell me


A lot of people make the nonsensical argument revolving around there being so few successful random players, when no one mentions that hardly anyone plays random (there's probably a lot more people map hacking, yet they wouldn't win GSL's either). O, and if you mention that, people would argue that it's too hard to learn random. Frankly, I wouldn't play random because it's close to cheating. And, playing both sides of a mu, actually accelerates your understanding by so much.

And, in a mirror mu, you get to play with a mineral advantage from the get go. People give random players way too much credit. I don't see how you could ever consider a random player an underdog if they have pro level skill, unless they have 1 race that is not at a pro level.

It's a pet peeve. Random has always bothered me more than anything else in the game balance wise. I'd rather play a hacker than a random player. Honest to god.



Not worth discussing this with you then


On a two player map, I start a game at a disadvantage vs a random player. The game stays even vs a map hacker far longer. I'll take a decent start. I can find ways to scout.

The worlds tiniest violin about playing against random, it is seriously a non issue.


It's only a "non issue" due to the fact that no one plays random. If more people were to try playing random, and they were any good, they would start showing the race the random player spawned as, so f'ing fast.

In BW, people would have said the same thing, but anytime a pro played a random player, they always scouted with one of their first workers. It's so irking to know random players have an adv and it's the easiest thing to fix in the world, yet it's left as is. It's not that hard to learn other races. It just isn't. It's actually far easier to be the best at any mu if you play more than one race. I just see it as a double advantage if anything...

So why doesn't everyone play random then?
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 06 2014 14:11 GMT
#315
On June 06 2014 23:11 polpot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:10 Keeemy wrote:
Damn Balloon speaks English really well.

He lived in U.S


From 2-6 years old yeah.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 06 2014 14:12 GMT
#316
On June 06 2014 23:10 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:05 ThomasjServo wrote:
On June 06 2014 23:03 playa wrote:
On June 06 2014 23:01 kaykoose wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:59 playa wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:55 Undead1993 wrote:
On June 06 2014 22:54 playa wrote:
Random is clearly UP. Map hackers rarely get number 1 on ladders and most of them can't even make GM. Clearly, map hacks need buffs, too.

i am not sure wtf this is supposed to tell me


A lot of people make the nonsensical argument revolving around there being so few successful random players, when no one mentions that hardly anyone plays random (there's probably a lot more people map hacking, yet they wouldn't win GSL's either). O, and if you mention that, people would argue that it's too hard to learn random. Frankly, I wouldn't play random because it's close to cheating. And, playing both sides of a mu, actually accelerates your understanding by so much.

And, in a mirror mu, you get to play with a mineral advantage from the get go. People give random players way too much credit. I don't see how you could ever consider a random player an underdog if they have pro level skill, unless they have 1 race that is not at a pro level.

It's a pet peeve. Random has always bothered me more than anything else in the game balance wise. I'd rather play a hacker than a random player. Honest to god.



Not worth discussing this with you then


On a two player map, I start a game at a disadvantage vs a random player. The game stays even vs a map hacker far longer. I'll take a decent start. I can find ways to scout.

The worlds tiniest violin about playing against random, it is seriously a non issue.


It's only a "non issue" due to the fact that no one plays random. If more people were to try playing random, and they were any good, they would start showing the race the random player spawned as, so f'ing fast.

In BW, people would have said the same thing, but anytime a pro played a random player, they always scouted with one of their first workers. It's so irking to know random players have an adv and it's the easiest thing to fix in the world, yet it's left as is. It's not that hard to learn other races. It just isn't. It's actually far easier to be the best at any mu if you play more than one race. I just see it as a double advantage if anything...

You're so right. Tweet at a top Korean to play random so that they can win every GSL ever such a good plan!
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fishb00n
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany607 Posts
June 06 2014 14:12 GMT
#317
99 red balloons get up high *sing*
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 06 2014 14:12 GMT
#318
Good job Balloon.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 06 2014 14:12 GMT
#319
Bloons is a fun game
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 06 2014 14:12 GMT
#320
On June 06 2014 23:10 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2014 23:09 sAsImre wrote:
On June 06 2014 23:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow Bomber throws away an easy TvT win again with proxy rax? wtf lol. Even Balloon has no idea why Bomber didn't even try.


he didn't know that it was tvt. and he got the worst end build wise twice in a row. The fact that baloon doesn't know how to micro reapers only gave him one game sadly/

Yeah but seriously there's a 2/3 chance his opponent is Protoss or Terran why would you go for blind 2rax in that situation?

And I know 2rax isn't insta loss against those 2 races but it isn't very good most of the time.

because fun
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