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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
May 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#1701
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 20:05:42
May 04 2014 20:05 GMT
#1702
On May 05 2014 05:04 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:03 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:00 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:00 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:59 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:58 maartendq wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:56 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:55 Darkhorse wrote:
Alright time to leave to go get food. Also this thread killed me inside for a little while. Hope we can all still be friends. Later guys!

Don't leave me =.=

Still not retired?

Long story

Longer than your retirement though AMIRITE?!?

4 days was pretty long imo


Was longer than Zealously's ragequit lasted

Oh, right. That was hilarious

Zealously always makes me laugh


The funny part was that Zealously got the ban hammer after that retirement.

On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.


I know that feeling, bro. I know.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 20:06:13
May 04 2014 20:05 GMT
#1703
On May 05 2014 04:52 Nauseam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:45 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:41 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:29 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:23 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:14 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:10 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:04 Nauseam wrote:
This is just horrible to watch.

But I actually think it's a good thing Stephano is doing this in front of so many viewers and Blizzards eyes just to show just how horribly broken the design of zerg and the concept of free units is in a RTS.

wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles.


LOL. What are you talking about? Protoss turtles all the time and terrans do from time to time as well. Neither P or T has any free units so P or T turtling will NEVER drag on for hours and hours. Such a stalemate situation can only happen with free units.

Or do you actually believe that if Z has massive advantage against P and then the P players turtles as much as he can, the game will drag on for hours?

Jeez. These zerg fanboys.

ugh..its a stalemate in the zerg can only atk the protoss effectively with SH while the P cant move out either or they just turtled to where they could. Why doesn't the Z just end it? He is trying to, but is trading very cost efficient because he is vsing like tempest templar archon void rays with a bunch of cannons and shit. The zerg has a hard time breaking it, and cant really so they are forced to go SH.



Sure. I can agree on that turtling on 3 base is just too good in SC2 but it is still possible to break a turtling P or T player whereas SH turtling is impossible to break once you reach that critical mass of SH and static defense.

To be honest, P or T turtling is not even remote to swarm host turtling. Did you even watch the game last night? When did you ever see P or T turtle play make a game drag on for 2-3 hours? I can answer that for you: Never.


yea it is possible to break them after using fucking swarm hosts/vipers to slowly wittle the fucking protoss down. What would happen if SH get nerfed and P goes skytoss? The zerg now has like no answer for it or to just trade super cost inefficient while he has a great economy.

I am saying it would also be more popular where you could play the game, and if you start to get pretty behind then you go skytoss while turtling so zerg cant really end so you get back in the game.

yes i watched the game where pet turtled in main while endless locust hit each other at the ramp. I do think stephano could have ended it with a muta switch at the end since he killed most of the spores or go BLs maybe. The thing is that could work or he could lose.


Did you even read my first post? I know Z has to go SH against skytoss and that's why the race design is so stupid. That SH creates hour long stalemate type of games as well makes it even more dumb and boring.

SH shouldn't get nerfed. They should be completely removed. And yes, P needs a redesign as well. Fact is though, P and T turtling doesn't create 2-3 hour long games.

zerg should not just lose to a race because they dont have a answer to what they have. The fact that they don't create long games doesnt matter.


Did I say that? I'm saying zerg needs a redesign and a replacement unit for the SH. You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

And yes, it matters a LOT. In fact, if Blizzard ever is gonna change or remove SH it will be because of exactly that. Long and boring games. Not that the concept of free units in a RTS is completely retarded.

if you just outright remove the SH then yes you are saying that. I shouldn't even have to respond to redesign a whole fucking race and removing SH would accomplish since everyone should know that wouldnt ever happen in a fucking patch so we have to wait till LOTV. The amount of fucking shit that would screw up is not going to happen for this expansion.

you never said replacement unit..you just said remove them and redesign P which will never happen this expansion. The SH creates games like this, but removing it so a race can again just win by getting to a certain composition will always be dumb.

I swear if people say "BL infestor"..

I think you need to just stop mindlessly saying things that will never happen this expansion.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 04 2014 20:05 GMT
#1704
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.

Who?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 04 2014 20:05 GMT
#1705
On May 05 2014 05:05 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:04 GumBa wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:03 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:00 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:00 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:59 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:58 maartendq wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:56 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:55 Darkhorse wrote:
Alright time to leave to go get food. Also this thread killed me inside for a little while. Hope we can all still be friends. Later guys!

Don't leave me =.=

Still not retired?

Long story

Longer than your retirement though AMIRITE?!?

4 days was pretty long imo


Was longer than Zealously's ragequit lasted

Oh, right. That was hilarious

Zealously always makes me laugh


The funny part was that Zealously got the ban hammer after that retirement.

I tried that and I was given a fake warning T_T
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
May 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#1706
Can we fast forward to Bomber vs. Polt? :D
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
May 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#1707
On May 05 2014 05:05 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.

Who?

There was another GSL champion who started with S... Was it Snooper?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
May 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#1708
On May 05 2014 05:05 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.

Who?


Who are YOU?
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
May 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#1709
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.


I'd rather he became actually good again. He's still ranked pretty high in KR GM but he needs to go back to being that super smart guy with sick forcefields and ceremonies and mad confidence. He was damn dominant at his peak.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#1710
On May 05 2014 05:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:05 hansonslee wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:04 GumBa wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:03 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:00 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:00 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:59 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:58 maartendq wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:56 Lorning wrote:
[quote]
Don't leave me =.=

Still not retired?

Long story

Longer than your retirement though AMIRITE?!?

4 days was pretty long imo


Was longer than Zealously's ragequit lasted

Oh, right. That was hilarious

Zealously always makes me laugh


The funny part was that Zealously got the ban hammer after that retirement.

I tried that and I was given a fake warning T_T

On which of your accounts. Eyoooooo
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 04 2014 20:07 GMT
#1711
On May 04 2014 23:49 Lorning wrote:
I just made this cause it starts in 15 minutes

If someone can take it from me, please say. I don't wanna stay up another night

This offer is still open
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FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
May 04 2014 20:07 GMT
#1712
On May 05 2014 04:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:57 FrogOfWar wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:54 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
"I don't have idea." - Jaedong, in response to how to defeat Stephano's Swarmhosts.


Yeah, but he also explains his victories with "I got lucky". I'm getting the impression Korean progamers get coached not to reveal anything about how they approach the game. Which would make sense actually.

He was referring to how to beat Stephano in that long ass game which he lost.He literally doesn't know, I don't think anybody knows of a way to defeat that style.


I know what he was referring to. And I don't believe you can read his mind and make statements about what he "literally" knows and doesn't know. He's obviously not going to start an in-depth professional discussion about countering a strategy on stage.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
May 04 2014 20:07 GMT
#1713
On May 05 2014 05:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:05 hansonslee wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:04 GumBa wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:03 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:00 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:00 ssxsilver wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:59 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:58 maartendq wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:56 Lorning wrote:
[quote]
Don't leave me =.=

Still not retired?

Long story

Longer than your retirement though AMIRITE?!?

4 days was pretty long imo


Was longer than Zealously's ragequit lasted

Oh, right. That was hilarious

Zealously always makes me laugh


The funny part was that Zealously got the ban hammer after that retirement.

I tried that and I was given a fake warning T_T


That's because you don't hate RorO enough! >:D
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 04 2014 20:07 GMT
#1714
Is amazing spiderman or Ultimate spiderman better? (Comics)
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
May 04 2014 20:08 GMT
#1715
On May 05 2014 05:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.


I'd rather he became actually good again. He's still ranked pretty high in KR GM but he needs to go back to being that super smart guy with sick forcefields and ceremonies and mad confidence. He was damn dominant at his peak.

Symbol vs Seed was one of the more underrated rivalries to me. Might not have always produced the highest quality or memorable games but I'll be damned if they didn't have quite the storyline.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2014 20:08 GMT
#1716
On May 05 2014 05:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:05 Dosey wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.

Who?

There was another GSL champion who started with S... Was it Snooper?

you are thinking of Scoobers
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
May 04 2014 20:08 GMT
#1717
On May 05 2014 05:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.


I'd rather he became actually good again. He's still ranked pretty high in KR GM but he needs to go back to being that super smart guy with sick forcefields and ceremonies and mad confidence. He was damn dominant at his peak.

Symbol vs Seed was one of the more underrated rivalries to me. Might not have always produced the highest quality or memorable games but I'll be damned if they didn't have quite the storyline.


Also, I won't forget his 0-2 comebacks during his GSL championship run!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 04 2014 20:08 GMT
#1718
On May 05 2014 05:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:05 Dosey wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.

Who?

There was another GSL champion who started with S... Was it Snooper?

I'm assuming it was Sasquatch, because he was never seen or heard from again.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 04 2014 20:09 GMT
#1719
On May 05 2014 05:08 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 05:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:05 Dosey wrote:
On May 05 2014 05:04 Pyloss wrote:
I kinda wish Seed would win this tournament or atleast make it to the finals. He is to good to be forgotten.

Who?

There was another GSL champion who started with S... Was it Snooper?

I'm assuming it was Sasquatch, because he was never seen or heard from again.

nah, pretty sure he meant Squirtle
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Nauseam
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden191 Posts
May 04 2014 20:09 GMT
#1720
On May 05 2014 05:05 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:52 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:45 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:41 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:29 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:23 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:14 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:10 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:04 Nauseam wrote:
This is just horrible to watch.

But I actually think it's a good thing Stephano is doing this in front of so many viewers and Blizzards eyes just to show just how horribly broken the design of zerg and the concept of free units is in a RTS.

wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles.


LOL. What are you talking about? Protoss turtles all the time and terrans do from time to time as well. Neither P or T has any free units so P or T turtling will NEVER drag on for hours and hours. Such a stalemate situation can only happen with free units.

Or do you actually believe that if Z has massive advantage against P and then the P players turtles as much as he can, the game will drag on for hours?

Jeez. These zerg fanboys.

ugh..its a stalemate in the zerg can only atk the protoss effectively with SH while the P cant move out either or they just turtled to where they could. Why doesn't the Z just end it? He is trying to, but is trading very cost efficient because he is vsing like tempest templar archon void rays with a bunch of cannons and shit. The zerg has a hard time breaking it, and cant really so they are forced to go SH.



Sure. I can agree on that turtling on 3 base is just too good in SC2 but it is still possible to break a turtling P or T player whereas SH turtling is impossible to break once you reach that critical mass of SH and static defense.

To be honest, P or T turtling is not even remote to swarm host turtling. Did you even watch the game last night? When did you ever see P or T turtle play make a game drag on for 2-3 hours? I can answer that for you: Never.


yea it is possible to break them after using fucking swarm hosts/vipers to slowly wittle the fucking protoss down. What would happen if SH get nerfed and P goes skytoss? The zerg now has like no answer for it or to just trade super cost inefficient while he has a great economy.

I am saying it would also be more popular where you could play the game, and if you start to get pretty behind then you go skytoss while turtling so zerg cant really end so you get back in the game.

yes i watched the game where pet turtled in main while endless locust hit each other at the ramp. I do think stephano could have ended it with a muta switch at the end since he killed most of the spores or go BLs maybe. The thing is that could work or he could lose.


Did you even read my first post? I know Z has to go SH against skytoss and that's why the race design is so stupid. That SH creates hour long stalemate type of games as well makes it even more dumb and boring.

SH shouldn't get nerfed. They should be completely removed. And yes, P needs a redesign as well. Fact is though, P and T turtling doesn't create 2-3 hour long games.

zerg should not just lose to a race because they dont have a answer to what they have. The fact that they don't create long games doesnt matter.


Did I say that? I'm saying zerg needs a redesign and a replacement unit for the SH. You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

And yes, it matters a LOT. In fact, if Blizzard ever is gonna change or remove SH it will be because of exactly that. Long and boring games. Not that the concept of free units in a RTS is completely retarded.


if you just outright remove the SH then yes you are saying that. I shouldn't even have to respond to redesign a whole fucking race and removing SH would accomplish since everyone should know that wouldnt ever happen in a fucking patch so we have to wait till LOTV. The amount of fucking shit that would screw up is not going to happen for this expansion.

you never said replacement unit..you just said remove them and redesign P which will never happen this expansion. The SH creates games like this, but removing it so a race can again just win by getting to a certain composition will always be dumb.

I swear if people say "BL infestor"..

I think you need to just stop mindlessly saying things that will never happen this expansion.


It might be dumb, but it's not as nearly as dumb as free units and three hour long games.

I think you need to just stop mindlessly saying "fucking" in every sentence cause that will never ever make your argument stronger.
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