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BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
April 18 2014 10:06 GMT
#261
And the stream coming back almost gave me a heart attack.
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1140 Posts
April 18 2014 10:06 GMT
#262
On April 18 2014 19:04 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:03 Calthrash wrote:
On April 18 2014 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 18 2014 18:58 Calthrash wrote:
On April 18 2014 18:56 GumBa wrote:
How do you beat that toss comp?


I think you get some ravens to make the tempests useless, maybe like 20ish ghosts to EMP, maybe a,little bit of left over bio but most of the supply just in raven/viking/ghost. At least in theory, dunno if that actually works.


Artosis is right, the Phoenixes eat up the PDDs so fast.


Dunno, if you have a ton of ghosts and vikings the protoss cant force the engagement in the same way since the tempest shots dont do damage. With enough PDDs it can be enough to turn the tide to the terran player, assuming that the EMPs hit. Trying to kill the observers help too with a lot of ghosts. Of course this is just theorycrafting though and next to impossible to execute in a real game

Phoenix use it up


Well that already makes less damage on your vikings. Besides I feel like the main point with the PDD is just to make it so the tempests cant force engagements from far away, he cant just fly the phoenixes intomyour army to kill the pdds at that point.
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
April 18 2014 10:07 GMT
#263
On April 18 2014 19:05 Chrispy wrote:
I just realized that Hot 6ix is the same thing as Hot 69. ;o

It's also a play on "hot sex". Their branding has the subtlety of a stampeding oliphaunt.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 10:07:43
April 18 2014 10:07 GMT
#264
I don't know, i didn't like this game at all, lots of time wasted on useless maneuvers, deathballs walking forth and back and the real climactic deciding engagement just never occurred: fanta simply got stomped 3-4 times, every time he tried to fight.
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VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
April 18 2014 10:07 GMT
#265
On April 18 2014 19:06 imrusty269 wrote:
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On April 18 2014 19:03 Schelim wrote:
that game just singlehandedly revived my passion for sc2. and i don't even play Protoss.


You like bl infestor then, because tempest templars aren't much different from that.


A reminder that lategame terran is literally worse then broodlord/infestor and currently unbeateable for protoss.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
April 18 2014 10:07 GMT
#266
PDD isn't the answer, at least not for a period of time longer than 2 volleys (which could be long enough)

Phoenix do 2 rounds each, so every phoenix requires the PDD to use energy twice per phoenix attack. Times 20 phoenix and that fast attack even 15 PDD's would be drained ultra quick. That could buy enough time for Vikings to win the air fight though. Maybe. Hard to say because I don't know how many shots a PDD can absorb.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 18 2014 10:08 GMT
#267
On April 18 2014 19:06 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:03 Schelim wrote:
that game just singlehandedly revived my passion for sc2. and i don't even play Protoss.


You like bl infestor then, because tempest templars aren't much different from that.

i did, until everybody did it and it became repetitive. but generally speaking i do enjoy long drawn-out macro games.
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ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
April 18 2014 10:08 GMT
#268
On April 18 2014 19:06 Calthrash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:04 GumBa wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:03 Calthrash wrote:
On April 18 2014 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 18 2014 18:58 Calthrash wrote:
On April 18 2014 18:56 GumBa wrote:
How do you beat that toss comp?


I think you get some ravens to make the tempests useless, maybe like 20ish ghosts to EMP, maybe a,little bit of left over bio but most of the supply just in raven/viking/ghost. At least in theory, dunno if that actually works.


Artosis is right, the Phoenixes eat up the PDDs so fast.


Dunno, if you have a ton of ghosts and vikings the protoss cant force the engagement in the same way since the tempest shots dont do damage. With enough PDDs it can be enough to turn the tide to the terran player, assuming that the EMPs hit. Trying to kill the observers help too with a lot of ghosts. Of course this is just theorycrafting though and next to impossible to execute in a real game

Phoenix use it up


Well that already makes less damage on your vikings. Besides I feel like the main point with the PDD is just to make it so the tempests cant force engagements from far away, he cant just fly the phoenixes intomyour army to kill the pdds at that point.


If he had several Ravens, he could have tried to shield them and then go for pointer seekers on the very immobile tempests as well. There are ways of beating a protoss air deathball, even though Fantasy didn't manage to do it...
Cogito, ergo toss.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
April 18 2014 10:08 GMT
#269
On April 18 2014 19:05 Chrispy wrote:
I just realized that Hot 6ix is the same thing as Hot 69. ;o


Whoooooaaaaaaaa.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 18 2014 10:09 GMT
#270
On April 18 2014 19:07 Orcasgt24 wrote:
PDD isn't the answer, at least not for a period of time longer than 2 volleys (which could be long enough)

Phoenix do 2 rounds each, so every phoenix requires the PDD to use energy twice per phoenix attack. Times 20 phoenix and that fast attack even 15 PDD's would be drained ultra quick. That could buy enough time for Vikings to win the air fight though. Maybe. Hard to say because I don't know how many shots a PDD can absorb.


well, since the Vikings would be shooting at the phoenixes all the time and EMPs would take all their shields, it would still just be energy traded against units.
I think you just need a lot of Ravens for that to be worthwhile, kind of like you need a lot of SHs.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
April 18 2014 10:10 GMT
#271
On April 18 2014 19:06 Yiome wrote:
I guess that protoss composition is pretty much unbeatable for terran...
It's sad

Don´t´worry. Zergs can´t beat it either :D
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
April 18 2014 10:10 GMT
#272
So theoretically, how is Terran supposed to beat that? A composition of tempest/colossus/phoenix/high templar just annihilated everything!

I know the answer is supposed to be: don't let the protoss get that far, but Myungsik played smart and defensive and even gave up expansions to build up that crazy deathball.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 18 2014 10:10 GMT
#273
Wtf why isn't it bolding in the op D: this is so annoying on a tablet
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 18 2014 10:10 GMT
#274
L33tnock! gooooo

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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
April 18 2014 10:10 GMT
#275
On April 18 2014 19:08 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:06 imrusty269 wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:03 Schelim wrote:
that game just singlehandedly revived my passion for sc2. and i don't even play Protoss.


You like bl infestor then, because tempest templars aren't much different from that.

i did, until everybody did it and it became repetitive. but generally speaking i do enjoy long drawn-out macro games.


What's the appeal in multitask-less macro?
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ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
April 18 2014 10:11 GMT
#276
On April 18 2014 19:10 Random_0 wrote:
So theoretically, how is Terran supposed to beat that? A composition of tempest/colossus/phoenix/high templar just annihilated everything!

I know the answer is supposed to be: don't let the protoss get that far, but Myungsik played smart and defensive and even gave up expansions to build up that crazy deathball.


Fantasy did a-move his ghosts into Myungsiks army and basically throw away his huge lead at one point though... you can't judge the composition entirely based on that game, because Fantasy made some fatal blunders.
Cogito, ergo toss.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 10:11:55
April 18 2014 10:11 GMT
#277
On April 18 2014 19:10 GumBa wrote:
Wtf why isn't it bolding in the op D: this is so annoying on a tablet

Put the [b] around the entire TLPD name
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 18 2014 10:11 GMT
#278
On April 18 2014 19:10 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:08 Schelim wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:06 imrusty269 wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:03 Schelim wrote:
that game just singlehandedly revived my passion for sc2. and i don't even play Protoss.


You like bl infestor then, because tempest templars aren't much different from that.

i did, until everybody did it and it became repetitive. but generally speaking i do enjoy long drawn-out macro games.


What's the appeal in multitask-less macro?

What's the appeal of strawmaning?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2014 10:12 GMT
#279
[Code A] Group L Season 2 2014
(Z)Leenock vs. (P)eMotion
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Emotion spawns in the bottom left
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
April 18 2014 10:12 GMT
#280
On April 18 2014 19:10 Random_0 wrote:
So theoretically, how is Terran supposed to beat that? A composition of tempest/colossus/phoenix/high templar just annihilated everything!

I know the answer is supposed to be: don't let the protoss get that far, but Myungsik played smart and defensive and even gave up expansions to build up that crazy deathball.

Nothing beats that really, terran or zerg. I guess enough corruptors and infestors could, with lots of vipers, sitting behind 50+ spores, but I can't see anything else working.
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