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On April 19 2014 14:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Widow mines, great unit. Maybe next time we can get one that isn't so fucking rng. Starcraft or Hearthstone? Hard to tell sometimes.

On April 19 2014 15:01 WilDMousE wrote:

Sorry but i havent followed hots that closely, but what is the rng on them? All i know is that you burrow them and they shoot, and well you can micro it to target a certain enemy or micro it to not shot by changing the enemy before the rocket is released... I kinda felt that ryung got way too greedy on getting the win, game 2 showed it quite well with the 3rd without any scv behind.

On April 19 2014 15:06 GTPGlitch wrote:


I'm mostly guessing here but some of the issue is probably

1) no visual indicator for target, which means in a zerg army it's hard to tell which ones you need to 'micro'

2) Relatively short range +launch delay means it's very likely to hit your own units

3) especially against zerglings and zealots, it's very easy to trigger a "misfire" since both Z's are very inexpensive and quick melee units. Compared to tanks which need drops or get at least a shot or two off against lings as they run in, mines are always always very hit or miss

On April 19 2014 15:06 GTPGlitch wrote:


I'm mostly guessing here but some of the issue is probably

1) no visual indicator for target, which means in a zerg army it's hard to tell which ones you need to 'micro'

2) Relatively short range +launch delay means it's very likely to hit your own units

3) especially against zerglings and zealots, it's very easy to trigger a "misfire" since both Z's are very inexpensive and quick melee units. Compared to tanks which need drops or get at least a shot or two off against lings as they run in, mines are always always very hit or miss

On April 19 2014 15:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:


Pretty much. I have always thought they were a badly designed unit. They are too unpredictable and can rob as many games from you as they can from the enemy. They are units which are a cheap thrill for the viewer and an apparently necessary roll of the dice for the person using them. Other units in sc2 do not have such randomness and as far as I am concerned, they should be reworked.

On April 19 2014 15:13 WilDMousE wrote:

Well what about starcraft1 where you had a lot of rng and possible changers and sort of "cliffhangers", I must admit I loved those moments where the reaver scarab would get to the miner line and take everything from the enemy or just pop out of nowhere but yeah I get your point. But well it wouldn't be fun taking out a unit because it has a possible rng component but what do I know.