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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
March 25 2014 00:05 GMT
#1141
On March 25 2014 08:00 SinCitta wrote:
Agencies

Agencies aren't teams. Part of their job is to find a team for a player. A player should be easily identifiable to be in a team, this isn't the case when agencies partly count as teams. CSA-XMG should not have happened. Since there is no effort involved in "creating" a team, Bounty Hunters could have happened, but should then consequently not allow players to join another team in parallel and should have basic team-like features.

Teams and team cooperations

Honestly, I prefer one merc (joker) to team cooperations. Last season was a strange season, where mercs were doing better than regular players and combined with the streakiness of SC2 results in general, this produced some questionable "team efforts", but at least it doesn't let the door wide open to abuse.

There should be no team cooperations for online team leagues at all, we should have been more vocal about them when they first started to happen:

a) They damage teams that do afford a full roster. Why pay for a full roster if you can participate in team leagues anyways? This makes it less attractive for a team to support a full roster which is worse for players as they find it harder to find a team. Clan leagues like ATC are supposed to remedy that by rewarding clans to have a full roster, but they went too liberal with that

b) It makes you a lesser team. If you can't field a roster of four players for a clanwar, you are not a team, you are a collection of some players under the same brand. Your identity is weaker, people don't recognize your team as a unit, but just a bunch of people that play together to get the requirements right. Are you expecting such an entity to gain any fans?

Oh, and rules should be discussed with teams and maybe with the community before the tournament starts and uses them. Just send a draft to those involved, gather feedback and improve.


I agree with all of this, awesome post SinCitta.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 25 2014 00:53 GMT
#1142
Wow should team bounty disband after this embarrassing debut? !
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 25 2014 01:30 GMT
#1143
On March 25 2014 09:05 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 08:00 SinCitta wrote:
Agencies

Agencies aren't teams. Part of their job is to find a team for a player. A player should be easily identifiable to be in a team, this isn't the case when agencies partly count as teams. CSA-XMG should not have happened. Since there is no effort involved in "creating" a team, Bounty Hunters could have happened, but should then consequently not allow players to join another team in parallel and should have basic team-like features.

Teams and team cooperations

Honestly, I prefer one merc (joker) to team cooperations. Last season was a strange season, where mercs were doing better than regular players and combined with the streakiness of SC2 results in general, this produced some questionable "team efforts", but at least it doesn't let the door wide open to abuse.

There should be no team cooperations for online team leagues at all, we should have been more vocal about them when they first started to happen:

a) They damage teams that do afford a full roster. Why pay for a full roster if you can participate in team leagues anyways? This makes it less attractive for a team to support a full roster which is worse for players as they find it harder to find a team. Clan leagues like ATC are supposed to remedy that by rewarding clans to have a full roster, but they went too liberal with that

b) It makes you a lesser team. If you can't field a roster of four players for a clanwar, you are not a team, you are a collection of some players under the same brand. Your identity is weaker, people don't recognize your team as a unit, but just a bunch of people that play together to get the requirements right. Are you expecting such an entity to gain any fans?

Oh, and rules should be discussed with teams and maybe with the community before the tournament starts and uses them. Just send a draft to those involved, gather feedback and improve.


I agree with all of this, awesome post SinCitta.

Well, SinCitta is our ATC God after all.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
March 25 2014 02:08 GMT
#1144
so we have Team TaeJa, Team Jaedong, Team Jjakji, and now Team Welmu? Let's hope Team San qualifies tomorrow!
If you don't like it, you can quit.
mouz.Wake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden136 Posts
March 25 2014 02:35 GMT
#1145
I'm already planning team Wake-KeSPA for ATC S4 quals. Good games overall though, Welmu going full beastmode today, ggwp
FORMER StarCraft II Team Manager for mousesports || @I_am_Wake
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
March 25 2014 04:08 GMT
#1146
fuck it I'm starting my own team
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
March 25 2014 04:21 GMT
#1147
On March 25 2014 13:08 Waxangel wrote:
fuck it I'm starting my own team


Team TLMods?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 25 2014 05:20 GMT
#1148
On March 25 2014 13:08 Waxangel wrote:
fuck it I'm starting my own team

Damn, you just missed your chance to sign elfi...
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 07:54:27
March 25 2014 07:53 GMT
#1149
on a side note IM in Proleague is dangerously nearing "Team IM + whoever the fuck we want" territory because of similarly lax and unclear rules regarding partnerships and what constitutes a team
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 25 2014 08:01 GMT
#1150
On March 25 2014 16:53 Waxangel wrote:
on a side note IM in Proleague is dangerously nearing "Team IM + whoever the fuck we want" territory because of similarly lax and unclear rules regarding partnerships and what constitutes a team


and they're still bad
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 25 2014 09:01 GMT
#1151
Welmu is the man!
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 09:19:00
March 25 2014 09:16 GMT
#1152
This Thumpar guy on reddit with his paint gifs is great.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Flash Wolves vs. Alien Invasion in 45 minutes, more exciting than proleague.
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
March 25 2014 09:18 GMT
#1153
Welmu so sexy all kill First Yoda MC Hyun this was a good hunt!
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
March 25 2014 09:57 GMT
#1154
yoe Flash Wolves vs Alien Invasion coming up!
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 25 2014 10:09 GMT
#1155
(Z)Golden vs. (P)Has to start
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 10:24:53
March 25 2014 10:22 GMT
#1156
Has really doesn't like tech units Oo

also his force fields weren't good at all. He more or less just put them down and then stayed in range of the units he trapped. He didn't cut off many of Golden's units from fighting at all
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 25 2014 10:24 GMT
#1157
That Immortal all-in was shit
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
March 25 2014 10:25 GMT
#1158
Well played Golden.

It's important for Alien Invasion that they don't drop any games to Has, Ian or Slam so that they have as many chances as possible against San and Leenock.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 10:27:20
March 25 2014 10:27 GMT
#1159
On March 25 2014 19:25 Crot4le wrote:
Well played Golden.

It's important for Alien Invasion that they don't drop any games to Has, Ian or Slam so that they have as many chances as possible against San and Leenock.


Leenock's actually not doing too great recently. San on the other hand....
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
March 25 2014 10:32 GMT
#1160
ahahaha Golden complaining about church noises and bird noises in the morning xD
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
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