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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
March 21 2014 11:32 GMT
#1621
go Parting, I want you to win this.

+ Show Spoiler [small rant on Daedalus] +

Daedalus is still a terrible map that shouldn't have been in the map pool in the first place.
I like weird new features like the super-wide ramp but a map needs more than just one feature. And this map had nothing special but that. And now it has no interesting features at all. A wide-open middle with no points to contest, nothing to fight over at all. All bases at the edges of the map. No point in ever moving out.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 21 2014 11:33 GMT
#1622
On March 21 2014 20:31 Paljas wrote:
why am i still not banned?


I guess you could do the scat if you are in a hurry
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 21 2014 11:33 GMT
#1623
On March 21 2014 20:32 Autotroph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:29 Hassybaby wrote:
Don't worry, in LotV there will be a new type of rock that creates a new ramps when you destroy it


hahaha imagine. Nydus rocks that create tunnels under the map too.


This is Heroes of the Storm levels of map balance
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 21 2014 11:33 GMT
#1624
On March 21 2014 20:32 Squat wrote:
Question, can you put a nexus down on FF? Or do you have to wait for them to dissipate?

you have to wait
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 21 2014 11:33 GMT
#1625
On March 21 2014 20:31 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:28 stuchiu wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:25 DJHelium wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:21 DJHelium wrote:
Does the Suppy response still work vs soul train? Mutas are obv weaker due to the MSC, but still seems strong. Just spine up natural like crazy using the drones from the third and only mine gas there.


No zerg mastermind that can tell me why it does/doesn't?

One thing is the backdoor to the natural on Yeonsu, but I think spines can be placed well enough.


As far as I know it doesn't. If they see mutas they recall back and are in no rush to rush into 20 spines like in WoL because WoL infestors no longer exist.


Hm yeah, recall probably ruins it.

And I was talking about the style where you get 3 bases with ~55-60 drones and as you see protoss move out you pull your drones back from the third to make spines, mining only gas so you don't lose your entire economy when protoss kills the third.


I don't think a good Protoss should fall for that bait. An empty third always tells me, THIS ZERG HAS NO UNITS,NO DEFENSES AND IS PRAYING YOU KILL THIS THIRD INSTEAD OF HIM.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51080 Posts
March 21 2014 11:33 GMT
#1626
On March 21 2014 20:31 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:29 Hassybaby wrote:
Don't worry, in LotV there will be a new type of rock that creates a new ramps when you destroy it

they just need to add in destructible islands like that one video and put the mains on them


Island expansion with a great tower you can destroy to actually make it non-island! :D


all these ideas rock.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
March 21 2014 11:33 GMT
#1627
On March 21 2014 20:32 Squat wrote:
Question, can you put a nexus down on FF? Or do you have to wait for them to dissipate?


Can't build on FF.
KT best KT ~ 2014
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 21 2014 11:33 GMT
#1628
On March 21 2014 20:32 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:31 NarutO wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:29 Hassybaby wrote:
Don't worry, in LotV there will be a new type of rock that creates a new ramps when you destroy it

they just need to add in destructible islands like that one video and put the mains on them


Island expansion with a great tower you can destroy to actually make it non-island! :D


I seriously think there should be destructible bridges.


Yes, it was no joke. It could add some complexity
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 21 2014 11:33 GMT
#1629
On March 21 2014 20:32 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:32 Heartland wrote:
Also, it is Tempests who should be able to lift massive units. And buildings.

only if floating terran buildings can crush units or kamikaze into flying units or ground units when dying


which brings us back to headbutting colossus against air units
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
March 21 2014 11:34 GMT
#1630
Can you use FF to block a Building landing?
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 21 2014 11:34 GMT
#1631
On March 21 2014 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:31 NarutO wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:29 Hassybaby wrote:
Don't worry, in LotV there will be a new type of rock that creates a new ramps when you destroy it

they just need to add in destructible islands like that one video and put the mains on them


Island expansion with a great tower you can destroy to actually make it non-island! :D


all these ideas rock.


We're on a roll
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
March 21 2014 11:34 GMT
#1632
On March 21 2014 20:32 Yello wrote:
go Parting, I want you to win this.

+ Show Spoiler [small rant on Daedalus] +

Daedalus is still a terrible map that shouldn't have been in the map pool in the first place.
I like weird new features like the super-wide ramp but a map needs more than just one feature. And this map had nothing special but that. And now it has no interesting features at all. A wide-open middle with no points to contest, nothing to fight over at all. All bases at the edges of the map. No point in ever moving out.


Yeah, Still, if SoO wins it on this map (it is Z favoured) that sort of evens out with Yeonsu.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1633
On March 21 2014 20:33 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:32 Squat wrote:
Question, can you put a nexus down on FF? Or do you have to wait for them to dissipate?

you have to wait

In that case Soo did that really well. cool beans
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
March 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1634
squat: You can't.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51080 Posts
March 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1635
On March 21 2014 20:33 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:32 Heartland wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:31 NarutO wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:29 Hassybaby wrote:
Don't worry, in LotV there will be a new type of rock that creates a new ramps when you destroy it

they just need to add in destructible islands like that one video and put the mains on them


Island expansion with a great tower you can destroy to actually make it non-island! :D


I seriously think there should be destructible bridges.


Yes, it was no joke. It could add some complexity

we need destructible destructibles that get destroyed when you destroy them.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1636
he should have just soul trained regardless of map
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1637
>_< Nice trap by soO though.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1638
On March 21 2014 20:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:33 NarutO wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:32 Heartland wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:31 NarutO wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:29 Hassybaby wrote:
Don't worry, in LotV there will be a new type of rock that creates a new ramps when you destroy it

they just need to add in destructible islands like that one video and put the mains on them


Island expansion with a great tower you can destroy to actually make it non-island! :D


I seriously think there should be destructible bridges.


Yes, it was no joke. It could add some complexity

we need destructible destructibles that get destroyed when you destroy them.


Also known as Banelings
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 11:36:09
March 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1639
On March 21 2014 20:34 Dinotramp wrote:
Can you use FF to block a Building landing?

yes you can but i have no idea how it would help in any scenario
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 21 2014 11:35 GMT
#1640
On March 21 2014 20:33 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 20:31 DJHelium wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:28 stuchiu wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:25 DJHelium wrote:
On March 21 2014 20:21 DJHelium wrote:
Does the Suppy response still work vs soul train? Mutas are obv weaker due to the MSC, but still seems strong. Just spine up natural like crazy using the drones from the third and only mine gas there.


No zerg mastermind that can tell me why it does/doesn't?

One thing is the backdoor to the natural on Yeonsu, but I think spines can be placed well enough.


As far as I know it doesn't. If they see mutas they recall back and are in no rush to rush into 20 spines like in WoL because WoL infestors no longer exist.


Hm yeah, recall probably ruins it.

And I was talking about the style where you get 3 bases with ~55-60 drones and as you see protoss move out you pull your drones back from the third to make spines, mining only gas so you don't lose your entire economy when protoss kills the third.


I don't think a good Protoss should fall for that bait. An empty third always tells me, THIS ZERG HAS NO UNITS,NO DEFENSES AND IS PRAYING YOU KILL THIS THIRD INSTEAD OF HIM.


You put the spines up at your natural, so you have defenses there.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
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