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Story found here about Naniwa vs. Polt. *Spoilers*
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/446041-naniwa-forfeits-mid-series-at-iem-katowice
http://sc2hl.com/highlight/1148
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2014 07:15 GMT
#81
On March 14 2014 06:15 Lorning wrote:
What if Naniwa being emo was all mindgames?

he will get crushed anyway and then become emo real time
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fkc)Bishop
Profile Joined April 2007
Peru82 Posts
March 14 2014 07:16 GMT
#82
And the spanish stream?
"Lo que llaman talento no es otra cosa más que un arduo y continuo trabajo realizado correctamente"
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
March 14 2014 07:41 GMT
#83
On March 14 2014 16:15 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 06:15 Lorning wrote:
What if Naniwa being emo was all mindgames?

he will get crushed anyway and then become emo real time


As you can see, naniwa is practicing very hard before his tough games at IEM...


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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 14 2014 07:48 GMT
#84
On March 14 2014 15:22 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 15:21 Lorning wrote:
On March 14 2014 15:20 opterown wrote:
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I can't choose D:

They're both so nice looking

this one fits in line though, 15px is the right height for TL i think


I just like the watermelon better because it looks ridiculous when tiny
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 14 2014 07:52 GMT
#85
On March 14 2014 16:41 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 16:15 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2014 06:15 Lorning wrote:
What if Naniwa being emo was all mindgames?

he will get crushed anyway and then become emo real time


As you can see, naniwa is practicing very hard before his tough games at IEM...


https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/444372965313236992


inb4 complete troll and he plays well.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
March 14 2014 07:56 GMT
#86
On March 14 2014 16:41 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 16:15 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2014 06:15 Lorning wrote:
What if Naniwa being emo was all mindgames?

he will get crushed anyway and then become emo real time


As you can see, naniwa is practicing very hard before his tough games at IEM...


https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/444372965313236992

Haha, Naniwa is going to the dark side. He's probably making the correct choice retiring - can't really argue the fact that Blizzard is letting the game stay in this state. When I saw Jaedong play swarm host yesterday, I really didn't care that he lost, because if even Jaedong feels forced into playing a passive and boring style, then there's something deeply wrong with the game.

Will be watching this tournament, but I have a feeling I won't be watching much more SC2 for a while - it's just too boring at the moment.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 14 2014 07:59 GMT
#87
Can't wait for the games to start to get even more negativity

HerO to beat everyone btw.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
March 14 2014 08:01 GMT
#88
I just really hope nobody i like finishes 2nd
Relaaja
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland193 Posts
March 14 2014 08:02 GMT
#89
On March 14 2014 16:56 KoRStarvid wrote:
can't really argue the fact that Blizzard is letting the game stay in this state. When I saw Jaedong play swarm host yesterday, I really didn't care that he lost, because if even Jaedong feels forced into playing a passive and boring style, then there's something deeply wrong with the game.

Will be watching this tournament, but I have a feeling I won't be watching much more SC2 for a while - it's just too boring at the moment.


Yesterday was a first time for a long time I watched a single game of PvZ. That matchup is completely shit and I can really feel pro gamer thoughts. Im pretty sure I wont watch a single PvZ in this tournament if Naniwa is not playing. Blizzard please fix this game.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2014 08:22 GMT
#90
On March 14 2014 16:52 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 16:41 partydude89 wrote:
On March 14 2014 16:15 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2014 06:15 Lorning wrote:
What if Naniwa being emo was all mindgames?

he will get crushed anyway and then become emo real time


As you can see, naniwa is practicing very hard before his tough games at IEM...


https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/444372965313236992


inb4 complete troll and he plays well.

inb4 he still loses
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 14 2014 08:44 GMT
#91
I want to see herO vs Hero! And it is possible, so I hope no1 will destroy the fun! :>
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 14 2014 08:50 GMT
#92
On March 14 2014 17:02 Relaaja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 16:56 KoRStarvid wrote:
can't really argue the fact that Blizzard is letting the game stay in this state. When I saw Jaedong play swarm host yesterday, I really didn't care that he lost, because if even Jaedong feels forced into playing a passive and boring style, then there's something deeply wrong with the game.

Will be watching this tournament, but I have a feeling I won't be watching much more SC2 for a while - it's just too boring at the moment.


Yesterday was a first time for a long time I watched a single game of PvZ. That matchup is completely shit and I can really feel pro gamer thoughts. Im pretty sure I wont watch a single PvZ in this tournament if Naniwa is not playing. Blizzard please fix this game.


You're wrong, Swarm Hosts are shit. Nothing is wrong with the match-up besides them.
AdministratorBreak the chains
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 14 2014 08:59 GMT
#93
On March 14 2014 17:50 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 17:02 Relaaja wrote:
On March 14 2014 16:56 KoRStarvid wrote:
can't really argue the fact that Blizzard is letting the game stay in this state. When I saw Jaedong play swarm host yesterday, I really didn't care that he lost, because if even Jaedong feels forced into playing a passive and boring style, then there's something deeply wrong with the game.

Will be watching this tournament, but I have a feeling I won't be watching much more SC2 for a while - it's just too boring at the moment.


Yesterday was a first time for a long time I watched a single game of PvZ. That matchup is completely shit and I can really feel pro gamer thoughts. Im pretty sure I wont watch a single PvZ in this tournament if Naniwa is not playing. Blizzard please fix this game.


You're wrong, Swarm Hosts are shit. Nothing is wrong with the match-up besides them.

Not exactly. The option to dig swarm hosts AND forget is shit. I really hate these games, where zerg just burrow SH and DO NOT MOVE!!! Like Hasu vs JD >< The possibility to do this in such a fast paced game is ridiculous ><
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 09:10:06
March 14 2014 09:09 GMT
#94
On March 14 2014 17:59 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 17:50 Zealously wrote:
On March 14 2014 17:02 Relaaja wrote:
On March 14 2014 16:56 KoRStarvid wrote:
can't really argue the fact that Blizzard is letting the game stay in this state. When I saw Jaedong play swarm host yesterday, I really didn't care that he lost, because if even Jaedong feels forced into playing a passive and boring style, then there's something deeply wrong with the game.

Will be watching this tournament, but I have a feeling I won't be watching much more SC2 for a while - it's just too boring at the moment.


Yesterday was a first time for a long time I watched a single game of PvZ. That matchup is completely shit and I can really feel pro gamer thoughts. Im pretty sure I wont watch a single PvZ in this tournament if Naniwa is not playing. Blizzard please fix this game.


You're wrong, Swarm Hosts are shit. Nothing is wrong with the match-up besides them.

Not exactly. The option to dig swarm hosts AND forget is shit. I really hate these games, where zerg just burrow SH and DO NOT MOVE!!! Like Hasu vs JD >< The possibility to do this in such a fast paced game is ridiculous ><

So Swarm Hosts are shit, but Tempests aren't?

When I watched that game, I saw 2 players turtling, not 1. Hell, Jaedong was trying to make more stuff happen with his Roach harass, as unfruitful as it was.

If Swarm Hosts are bad because they lead to turtling games, what are Tempests?

Here's another question people should be asking. In WoL everyone blamed BL/Infestor for the state of PvZ, it got nerfed into the ground, and now everyone is blaming Swarm Hosts. How come it's always the Protoss matchups that end this way?

Does the Protoss deathball basically being unbeatable without a massively defensive, extremely cost efficient army, and as Jaedong vs Hasu showed, even with such an army sometimes, have nothing to do with the way PvZ tends to go eventually?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 14 2014 09:15 GMT
#95
On March 14 2014 16:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can't wait for the games to start to get even more negativity

HerO to beat everyone btw.

Like how he beat everyone in his WCS group

hehe
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 14 2014 09:16 GMT
#96
On March 14 2014 18:09 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 17:59 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 14 2014 17:50 Zealously wrote:
On March 14 2014 17:02 Relaaja wrote:
On March 14 2014 16:56 KoRStarvid wrote:
can't really argue the fact that Blizzard is letting the game stay in this state. When I saw Jaedong play swarm host yesterday, I really didn't care that he lost, because if even Jaedong feels forced into playing a passive and boring style, then there's something deeply wrong with the game.

Will be watching this tournament, but I have a feeling I won't be watching much more SC2 for a while - it's just too boring at the moment.


Yesterday was a first time for a long time I watched a single game of PvZ. That matchup is completely shit and I can really feel pro gamer thoughts. Im pretty sure I wont watch a single PvZ in this tournament if Naniwa is not playing. Blizzard please fix this game.


You're wrong, Swarm Hosts are shit. Nothing is wrong with the match-up besides them.

Not exactly. The option to dig swarm hosts AND forget is shit. I really hate these games, where zerg just burrow SH and DO NOT MOVE!!! Like Hasu vs JD >< The possibility to do this in such a fast paced game is ridiculous ><

So Swarm Hosts are shit, but Tempests aren't?

When I watched that game, I saw 2 players turtling, not 1. Hell, Jaedong was trying to make more stuff happen with his Roach harass, as unfruitful as it was.

If Swarm Hosts are bad because they lead to turtling games, what are Tempests?

Here's another question people should be asking. In WoL everyone blamed BL/Infestor for the state of PvZ, it got nerfed into the ground, and now everyone is blaming Swarm Hosts. How come it's always the Protoss matchups that end this way?

Does the Protoss deathball basically being unbeatable without a massively defensive, extremely cost efficient army, and as Jaedong vs Hasu showed, even with such an army sometimes, have nothing to do with the way PvZ tends to go eventually?

Please, show me, where I wrote that tempests are lovable or something like this.

Also, you can't just stand above cannons and do nothing, like you can do with swarm hosts. Therefore in my view SH are more shitty than tempest. And I really hate both units, though they are answer on "woo, free units, you cannot walk and here, have some glue, so you cannot even blink" from WoL. I personally think, that free units are just very bad design from Blizzard and since tempest has such a huge range, I count it into the "free units" even though it's not breaking pathing system and it's not using free units at all.

BTW BL/infestor was played even in TvZ, so please, it's not about PvZ only :o)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 09:17:15
March 14 2014 09:16 GMT
#97
I guess you watched a different game to everybody else then?

JD did nothing for 30 Minutes while Hasu tried to kill bases and get his ultimate army. JD went blind Swarm Hosts vs. a normal Gateway+Colossus composition and forced Hasu into the lategame and into that playstyle
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 14 2014 09:19 GMT
#98
On March 14 2014 18:15 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 16:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Can't wait for the games to start to get even more negativity

HerO to beat everyone btw.

Like how he beat everyone in his WCS group

hehe


No, more like the IEM Cologne version

You know what HerO does. He's the Bomber of protoss except he swings even harder between winning championships with dominant play and getting beaten in WCS America Ro32.

Championship HerO pls
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 09:22:15
March 14 2014 09:21 GMT
#99
am i seeing this right? only 6 of the 8 ro16 games will be shown?
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 14 2014 09:21 GMT
#100
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