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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 02 2014 12:13 GMT
#141
On March 02 2014 21:12 Yello wrote:
so for today we saw Zealot-Immortal. Then Sentry-Immortal. Now let's see what Super is going to do


Oracle-Immortal!
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 02 2014 12:13 GMT
#142
On March 02 2014 21:12 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:11 vthree wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:10 rothsbury wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:08 Qwerty85 wrote:
Do zergs ever defend this? Because I don't remember the last time I saw it fail.

I think with a slow immortal timing like that you can win with Lair tech like infestors, swarm hosts, and probably even mutas. DRG just made too many zerglings early on - he was slightly behind economically the entire game. With no tech besides roaches and a lacklustre economy, of course he's going to lose to that.


To be fair, it was only a slow immortal timing because DRG made so many lings early on.

True. But there are other ways to deal with the quicker immortal timing. Either way making that many lings early on for no real purpose is what put DRG behind. Plus losing the 3rd for free didn't help.


He didn't lose the third... He cancelled and remade at a different location.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 02 2014 12:14 GMT
#143
how to deal with that? muta? baneling drops?
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
March 02 2014 12:14 GMT
#144
On March 02 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:12 Yello wrote:
so for today we saw Zealot-Immortal. Then Sentry-Immortal. Now let's see what Super is going to do


Oracle-Immortal!


Heh, I retired a high masters terran with proxy oracle into 1base immortal all in :D
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 02 2014 12:14 GMT
#145
it's kind of sad that FIFA get's more live viewers than starcraft 2 nowadays.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 12:15:30
March 02 2014 12:14 GMT
#146
On March 02 2014 21:13 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:12 rothsbury wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:11 vthree wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:10 rothsbury wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:08 Qwerty85 wrote:
Do zergs ever defend this? Because I don't remember the last time I saw it fail.

I think with a slow immortal timing like that you can win with Lair tech like infestors, swarm hosts, and probably even mutas. DRG just made too many zerglings early on - he was slightly behind economically the entire game. With no tech besides roaches and a lacklustre economy, of course he's going to lose to that.


To be fair, it was only a slow immortal timing because DRG made so many lings early on.

True. But there are other ways to deal with the quicker immortal timing. Either way making that many lings early on for no real purpose is what put DRG behind. Plus losing the 3rd for free didn't help.


He didn't lose the third... He cancelled and remade at a different location.


His third was delayed for a full minute, and those zealots forced DRG to keep making lings instead of saturating the third. You are never ever going to hold any protoss timing when you are either tied or behind in workers for the entire game.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
March 02 2014 12:14 GMT
#147
On March 02 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:12 Yello wrote:
so for today we saw Zealot-Immortal. Then Sentry-Immortal. Now let's see what Super is going to do


Oracle-Immortal!


Carrier-Probe!
Fut am Bam
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
March 02 2014 12:14 GMT
#148
let's go Soulkey!
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 02 2014 12:14 GMT
#149
On March 02 2014 21:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:12 Yello wrote:
so for today we saw Zealot-Immortal. Then Sentry-Immortal. Now let's see what Super is going to do


Oracle-Immortal!


Heh, I retired a high masters terran with proxy oracle into 1base immortal all in :D


So evil T_T
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
March 02 2014 12:15 GMT
#150
On March 02 2014 21:14 ne4aJIb wrote:
how to deal with that? muta? baneling drops?


Don't fuck up in the early game and have more units when it hits.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
March 02 2014 12:17 GMT
#151
On March 02 2014 21:15 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:14 ne4aJIb wrote:
how to deal with that? muta? baneling drops?


Don't fuck up in the early game and have more units when it hits.

Fast tech to lair into hydras helps too, however not if you trash gas on ling speed and lots of minerals on army.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 02 2014 12:17 GMT
#152
On March 02 2014 21:15 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:14 ne4aJIb wrote:
how to deal with that? muta? baneling drops?


Don't fuck up in the early game and have more units when it hits.

Looking at the success rate of the Immortal all in over the years, across expansions and patches, those poor Zerg players sure do seem to fuck up a lot, and the Protoss always plays a perfect game.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 02 2014 12:18 GMT
#153
On March 02 2014 21:17 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:15 Teoita wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:14 ne4aJIb wrote:
how to deal with that? muta? baneling drops?


Don't fuck up in the early game and have more units when it hits.

Looking at the success rate of the Immortal all in over the years, across expansions and patches, those poor Zerg players sure do seem to fuck up a lot, and the Protoss always plays a perfect game.


I dunno, I only really see PartinG regularly employ the wonwonwon and score good wins with it.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 12:19:38
March 02 2014 12:19 GMT
#154
On March 02 2014 21:17 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:15 Teoita wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:14 ne4aJIb wrote:
how to deal with that? muta? baneling drops?


Don't fuck up in the early game and have more units when it hits.

Looking at the success rate of the Immortal all in over the years, across expansions and patches, those poor Zerg players sure do seem to fuck up a lot, and the Protoss always plays a perfect game.


You can't compare the WoL metagame, and the way Soultrains were used back then, with how those builds work now. They are actually very different. Then again, i suppose the average viewer just watches a game and says ZOMG IMMORTALZ WON.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
March 02 2014 12:20 GMT
#155
On March 02 2014 21:19 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:17 sitromit wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:15 Teoita wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:14 ne4aJIb wrote:
how to deal with that? muta? baneling drops?


Don't fuck up in the early game and have more units when it hits.

Looking at the success rate of the Immortal all in over the years, across expansions and patches, those poor Zerg players sure do seem to fuck up a lot, and the Protoss always plays a perfect game.


You can't compare the WoL metagame, and the way Soultrains were used back then, with how those builds work now. They are actually very different. Then again, i suppose the average viewer just watches a game and says ZOMG IMMORTALZ WON.

I can't agree more with you
It's good to be back
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
March 02 2014 12:20 GMT
#156
wow I think the bitrate for the stream just went down by a lot. The stream suddenly looks awful
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 02 2014 12:21 GMT
#157
It's been awhile! :D

Incaaaaa
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rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
March 02 2014 12:21 GMT
#158
On March 02 2014 21:17 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 21:15 Teoita wrote:
On March 02 2014 21:14 ne4aJIb wrote:
how to deal with that? muta? baneling drops?


Don't fuck up in the early game and have more units when it hits.

Looking at the success rate of the Immortal all in over the years, across expansions and patches, those poor Zerg players sure do seem to fuck up a lot, and the Protoss always plays a perfect game.

The deciding factor in the game was DRG screwing up. Even if it was a super overpowered unstoppable push, that wasn't why DRG lost.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 02 2014 12:21 GMT
#159
protoss with the plays today
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 02 2014 12:21 GMT
#160
On March 02 2014 21:20 Yello wrote:
wow I think the bitrate for the stream just went down by a lot. The stream suddenly looks awful


looks exactly the same to me..
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