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Stop whining. This lr is terrible.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 27 2014 02:36 GMT
#1661
On February 27 2014 11:36 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:35 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:32 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:31 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:29 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:27 Caladan wrote:
[quote]

Yeah, that's not the Starcraft anymore we all loved. Where is micro, where is macro? Everything is about holding the next all-in. No more open games.
I'm really fed up with this game in its current state. Feels dead.


rewatch IEM if you are able to cop with good P matchs. that was sick.


P must mean Polt right


you need to be 2 for good games


Polt X Polt. One True Matchup.


nah. The Only True One was Polt vs MMA. <3


Polt X Ryung, never forget.


speaking about godlike TvT and old vods, against who Keen played an aggressive mech on entombed valley (and barely lost in one of the best mech games ever in sc2)


My first instinct is either Keen vs Nada, Keen vs Gumiho or Keen vs Mvp?


Surprised no one is talking about the absolute best TvP ever played - Mvp vs Squirtle on Metropolis.


When for one instant, Mvp convinced us Mech was playable against Protoss.
Moderator
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1662
On February 27 2014 11:30 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:28 Waise wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:26 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:25 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:23 scott31337 wrote:
A creative planned out build and you whine about balance? That was awesome...

I'm no balance whiner in this particular instance, but that is creative? He looked at that and thought, "I wonder how many pylons it would take to go across that choke" It's not exactly a remarkable innovation.

How many other protosses have thought that and made it work vs a top zerg? It's pretty creative imo, assuming he came up with it.

spending more money to build more pylons isn't an innovation. it's the same build

You're still looking at a seriously wide choke and thinking about 5 pylons before cannon as a possibility. It's innovative compared to most play we see. Regardless of how much you hate that play.

has nothing to do with my opinion of the play. you're using "innovative" to mean "courageous" and they're just not the same thing. if you 2rax a zerg in their main, it's not "innovative" just because you did it in a riskier way with bigger reward. it's just ballsy.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1663
On February 27 2014 11:33 werynais wrote:
Whats even more annoying than balance whine? The pathetic guys who brag about reporting balance whiners. Just report and shut up, it's not really that interesting.

I personally stopped giving a shit about teachers pets when I was 10
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1664
I gotta stop rooting for players.
They always seem to lose.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1665
On February 27 2014 11:35 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:30 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 Waise wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:26 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:25 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:23 scott31337 wrote:
A creative planned out build and you whine about balance? That was awesome...

I'm no balance whiner in this particular instance, but that is creative? He looked at that and thought, "I wonder how many pylons it would take to go across that choke" It's not exactly a remarkable innovation.

How many other protosses have thought that and made it work vs a top zerg? It's pretty creative imo, assuming he came up with it.

spending more money to build more pylons isn't an innovation. it's the same build

You're still looking at a seriously wide choke and thinking about 5 pylons before cannon as a possibility. It's innovative compared to most play we see. Regardless of how much you hate that play.


However, I think the frustration is that T and Z don't really have this type of play due to MsC.

You're blaming the MsC for 5 pylon cannon rushes?
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1666
Okay bomber you KNOW he's gonna cheese you just be ready man please!!!
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1667
On February 27 2014 11:35 The_Templar wrote:
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On February 27 2014 11:35 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:33 Xinzoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:32 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:31 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:29 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

rewatch IEM if you are able to cop with good P matchs. that was sick.


P must mean Polt right


you need to be 2 for good games


Polt X Polt. One True Matchup.


nah. The Only True One was Polt vs MMA. <3


Polt X Ryung, never forget.


speaking about godlike TvT and old vods, against who Keen played an aggressive mech on entombed valley (and barely lost in one of the best mech games ever in sc2)


Taeja (bio) vs Innovation (mech) was the best 50 min TvT


it was hots TvT and there is a huge blunder by inno sadly in the midst of an almost perfect game (when he lost 10+ tanks in the middle of the map at a moment he was way ahead)

I do not remember that happening at any point.


he was pushing towards the middle and left tanks without hellbat/viking support at a moment he had a critical mass that was going to be a pain to deal with. Taeja was transitionning into sky T at this moment but took the opportunity and continue to play bio. Then Inno hellbats happened for the rest of the game but he slowly ran out of steam.
Zest fanboy.
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1668
On February 27 2014 11:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:36 felisconcolori wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:35 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:32 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:31 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:29 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

rewatch IEM if you are able to cop with good P matchs. that was sick.


P must mean Polt right


you need to be 2 for good games


Polt X Polt. One True Matchup.


nah. The Only True One was Polt vs MMA. <3


Polt X Ryung, never forget.


speaking about godlike TvT and old vods, against who Keen played an aggressive mech on entombed valley (and barely lost in one of the best mech games ever in sc2)


My first instinct is either Keen vs Nada, Keen vs Gumiho or Keen vs Mvp?


Surprised no one is talking about the absolute best TvP ever played - Mvp vs Squirtle on Metropolis.


When for one instant, Mvp convinced us Mech was playable against Protoss.

If I had a dollar for every mass BC+Ghost army I've seen against Protoss, I'd have $1.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1669
proxy tempest please. please.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 27 2014 02:37 GMT
#1670
Why doesn't Terran do this with 3 bunkers btw?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1671
ughhhhhhhhhhhh
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 02:38:20
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1672
After reading the mod note I'd hate to ask, but Bomber and Jaedong really lost a set?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1673
On February 27 2014 11:36 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:36 felisconcolori wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:35 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:32 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:31 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:29 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

rewatch IEM if you are able to cop with good P matchs. that was sick.


P must mean Polt right


you need to be 2 for good games


Polt X Polt. One True Matchup.


nah. The Only True One was Polt vs MMA. <3


Polt X Ryung, never forget.


speaking about godlike TvT and old vods, against who Keen played an aggressive mech on entombed valley (and barely lost in one of the best mech games ever in sc2)


My first instinct is either Keen vs Nada, Keen vs Gumiho or Keen vs Mvp?


Surprised no one is talking about the absolute best TvP ever played - Mvp vs Squirtle on Metropolis.


When for one instant, Mvp convinced us Mech was playable against Protoss.


Well, to be fair, for a brief time in HotS Beta... it really was. It was just... too playable.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1674
Here we go gentlemen
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1675
On February 27 2014 11:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:32 Greendotz wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:31 braller wrote:
Not pleased with the mod notification on top... I know balance whining is annoying, but whenever I see something like that it's very obvious that a top player lost to less regarded Protoss.


Seriously, this has actually been rather tame compared to when JD usually gets knocked out. HerO was actually getting death threats when he beat JD in Cologne.

i wish i'd died



you're alive?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1676
A cheese! I am so surprised.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1677
On February 27 2014 11:36 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:35 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:32 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:31 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:29 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:27 Caladan wrote:
[quote]

Yeah, that's not the Starcraft anymore we all loved. Where is micro, where is macro? Everything is about holding the next all-in. No more open games.
I'm really fed up with this game in its current state. Feels dead.


rewatch IEM if you are able to cop with good P matchs. that was sick.


P must mean Polt right


you need to be 2 for good games


Polt X Polt. One True Matchup.


nah. The Only True One was Polt vs MMA. <3


Polt X Ryung, never forget.


speaking about godlike TvT and old vods, against who Keen played an aggressive mech on entombed valley (and barely lost in one of the best mech games ever in sc2)


My first instinct is either Keen vs Nada, Keen vs Gumiho or Keen vs Mvp?


Surprised no one is talking about the absolute best TvP ever played - Mvp vs Squirtle on Metropolis.

That was boring tbh, nr30 into massive micro mistake + archon toilet
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1678
On February 27 2014 11:37 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:35 vthree wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 Waise wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:26 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:25 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:23 scott31337 wrote:
A creative planned out build and you whine about balance? That was awesome...

I'm no balance whiner in this particular instance, but that is creative? He looked at that and thought, "I wonder how many pylons it would take to go across that choke" It's not exactly a remarkable innovation.

How many other protosses have thought that and made it work vs a top zerg? It's pretty creative imo, assuming he came up with it.

spending more money to build more pylons isn't an innovation. it's the same build

You're still looking at a seriously wide choke and thinking about 5 pylons before cannon as a possibility. It's innovative compared to most play we see. Regardless of how much you hate that play.


However, I think the frustration is that T and Z don't really have this type of play due to MsC.

You're blaming the MsC for 5 pylon cannon rushes?

How did you even read that, terran and zerg can't early game rush a protoss with any build because of MsC.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1679
On February 27 2014 11:36 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:35 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:32 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:31 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:30 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:29 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:28 sAsImre wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:27 Caladan wrote:
[quote]

Yeah, that's not the Starcraft anymore we all loved. Where is micro, where is macro? Everything is about holding the next all-in. No more open games.
I'm really fed up with this game in its current state. Feels dead.


rewatch IEM if you are able to cop with good P matchs. that was sick.


P must mean Polt right


you need to be 2 for good games


Polt X Polt. One True Matchup.


nah. The Only True One was Polt vs MMA. <3


Polt X Ryung, never forget.


speaking about godlike TvT and old vods, against who Keen played an aggressive mech on entombed valley (and barely lost in one of the best mech games ever in sc2)


My first instinct is either Keen vs Nada, Keen vs Gumiho or Keen vs Mvp?


too recent for NaDa, definitely not against Mvp (who was 100% meching on entombed valley so i'll check for Gumi :p)


Either that or him vs Innovation or Keen vs Byun. Maybe Keen vs Heart.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
February 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#1680
On February 27 2014 11:38 BisuDagger wrote:
After reading the mod note I'd hate to ask, but Bomber and Jaedong really lost a set?

Bomber lost to Arthur and Jaedong to both Bomber and Has.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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