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Stop whining. This lr is terrible.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 27 2014 01:03 GMT
#701
On February 27 2014 10:00 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


you mustn't play terran

Salvage. Its only 100 minerals if they are not destroyed


You need to calculate the lost minerals from having an SCV make the bunker and having 100 minerals at 7 minutes is different from having 100 minerals at 10 minutes. So no, you can't say the cost of a bunker is only 25 after you have salvaged.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 27 2014 01:04 GMT
#702
On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


you mustn't play terran

I do actually.



Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off.

So you would rather have 8 marines than 4 bunkers? He was saying the bunkers aren't a big risk if the toss ISN'T doing a blink all in.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 27 2014 01:04 GMT
#703
Bomber wants blood.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 01:05:04
February 27 2014 01:04 GMT
#704
On February 27 2014 10:01 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:00 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


you mustn't play terran

Salvage. Its only 100 minerals if they are not destroyed

Changes nothing to the fact they cost 100 minerals when you build them, not 25. If you salvage them, you get your mineral back later.

EDIT: I don't think I'm making a good point. I'm gonna go back to watching Starcraft.
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 27 2014 01:04 GMT
#705
On February 27 2014 10:02 Yorkie wrote:
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On February 27 2014 09:59 Larkin wrote:
Gosh, it really is "let's play terribly against Bomber" day.

Bomber is playing extremely well. Tell it like it is

Honestly the "I don't even know where my opponent is and what he is doing" part was not extremely good.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
February 27 2014 01:04 GMT
#706
Proxy BM rax by Bomber?
Plat Support Main #believe
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 27 2014 01:04 GMT
#707
On February 27 2014 10:02 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.

or 400 minerals for the moment. and 400 minerals are not well needed at that point of the game, right?

If you choose to not scout at all those Bunkers are the best investment of 400 minerals available. 10 minutes in and nothing of Bombers has left the sight of a building.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
February 27 2014 01:04 GMT
#708
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


Well no not really, it's 400 since salvage is irrelevant as at that point of time. 400 minerals that early on (and at that level of play) is freaking huge. The fact that you can salvage later on is of little use if your opponent goes double forge robo.
Fhiz
Profile Joined October 2013
361 Posts
February 27 2014 01:05 GMT
#709
On February 27 2014 10:03 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


you mustn't play terran

I do actually.



Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off.

I don't allow the game to develop into a blink all in.


lol
girls generation make u feel da heat
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
February 27 2014 01:05 GMT
#710
On February 27 2014 10:03 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:00 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


you mustn't play terran

Salvage. Its only 100 minerals if they are not destroyed


You need to calculate the lost minerals from having an SCV make the bunker and having 100 minerals at 7 minutes is different from having 100 minerals at 10 minutes. So no, you can't say the cost of a bunker is only 25 after you have salvaged.


How much in minerals does it cost to know the enemy you´re fighting against?
invisible tetris level master
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 27 2014 01:05 GMT
#711
Now bomber will kill him with a single reaper
Neosteel Enthusiast
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 27 2014 01:05 GMT
#712
On February 27 2014 10:05 Fhiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:03 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


you mustn't play terran

I do actually.



Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off.

I don't allow the game to develop into a blink all in.


lol

I'm serious. Hard to go to blink all in off PROXY CLOAK BANSHEE FOLLOWED BY WIDOW MINE DROP
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 01:06:00
February 27 2014 01:05 GMT
#713
On February 27 2014 10:05 Fhiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:03 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


you mustn't play terran

I do actually.



Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off.

I don't allow the game to develop into a blink all in.


lol


Well, if he gets curbed stomped before it gets that far, he's being accurate. Don't you think?

Ooooor that. I guess. ^^
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 27 2014 01:06 GMT
#714
On February 27 2014 10:05 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:05 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:03 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


you mustn't play terran

I do actually.



Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off.

I don't allow the game to develop into a blink all in.


lol


Well, if he gets curbed stomped before it gets that far, he's being accurate. Don't you think?

Ooooor that. I guess. ^^

This is also true sometimes I die to zealot/stalker/msc
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 27 2014 01:07 GMT
#715
On February 27 2014 10:02 The_Templar wrote:
WCS America: Premier

(P)Arthur vs (T)Bomber
0-1


Map: Yeonsu


Arthur spawns in the top right
Bomber spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Bomber proxies a barracks right under Arthur's main, followed by a refinery.
Arthur getting two assimilators after a gateway.

2:00
Second barracks in Bomber's main base.
Reaper for Bomber.
Arthur not getting a zealot.

3:00
Cybernetics core and reaper finish at nearly the same time.
Reaper immediately kills a probe.
Stalker being chronoboosted out.
Second reaper finishes.
Bomber killd a second probe.

4:00
Stalker and mothership core whaling on the barracks.
Reapers kill another probe.
Bomber getting a CC.
Bomber mining very little gas currently.
Twilight council for Arthur.

5:00
Bomber getting a third barracks, and a fourth.
Stim starts for Bomber.
Blink for Arthur.
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TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 01:07:25
February 27 2014 01:07 GMT
#716
Its because of people like us that the bunker build time was buffed and nerfed 20 times.
Moderator
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 27 2014 01:07 GMT
#717
I guess, i know the ending of this.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
February 27 2014 01:07 GMT
#718
On February 27 2014 10:04 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:
On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote:
Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky.

It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.


Well no not really, it's 400 since salvage is irrelevant as at that point of time. 400 minerals that early on (and at that level of play) is freaking huge. The fact that you can salvage later on is of little use if your opponent goes double forge robo.

also the statement is wrong: it doesnt cost 100 to BUILD 4 Bunkers it costs 400.
Instead of 400 minerals running into bunkers a CC would let you keep up in eco if it is just fake or misread. So if you build 4 bunkers because well... basically they only cost 25 per piece, you will fall behind very quickly
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
February 27 2014 01:07 GMT
#719
Didn't work on two bases, let just do the same on one base.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 27 2014 01:08 GMT
#720
Unscouted blink all-in -> make loads of bunkers.
Scout blink all-in -> dont make loads of bunkers
#bomberlogic
Neosteel Enthusiast
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