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On February 27 2014 10:00 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. you mustn't play terran Salvage. Its only 100 minerals if they are not destroyed
You need to calculate the lost minerals from having an SCV make the bunker and having 100 minerals at 7 minutes is different from having 100 minerals at 10 minutes. So no, you can't say the cost of a bunker is only 25 after you have salvaged.
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On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. you mustn't play terran I do actually. Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off. So you would rather have 8 marines than 4 bunkers? He was saying the bunkers aren't a big risk if the toss ISN'T doing a blink all in.
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United States23455 Posts
On February 27 2014 10:01 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 10:00 Orcasgt24 wrote:On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. you mustn't play terran Salvage. Its only 100 minerals if they are not destroyed Changes nothing to the fact they cost 100 minerals when you build them, not 25. If you salvage them, you get your mineral back later. EDIT: I don't think I'm making a good point. I'm gonna go back to watching Starcraft.
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On February 27 2014 10:02 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:59 Larkin wrote: Gosh, it really is "let's play terribly against Bomber" day. Bomber is playing extremely well. Tell it like it is Honestly the "I don't even know where my opponent is and what he is doing" part was not extremely good.
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Proxy BM rax by Bomber?
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On February 27 2014 10:02 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. or 400 minerals for the moment. and 400 minerals are not well needed at that point of the game, right? If you choose to not scout at all those Bunkers are the best investment of 400 minerals available. 10 minutes in and nothing of Bombers has left the sight of a building.
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On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal.
Well no not really, it's 400 since salvage is irrelevant as at that point of time. 400 minerals that early on (and at that level of play) is freaking huge. The fact that you can salvage later on is of little use if your opponent goes double forge robo.
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On February 27 2014 10:03 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. you mustn't play terran I do actually. Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off. I don't allow the game to develop into a blink all in.
lol
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On February 27 2014 10:03 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 10:00 Orcasgt24 wrote:On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. you mustn't play terran Salvage. Its only 100 minerals if they are not destroyed You need to calculate the lost minerals from having an SCV make the bunker and having 100 minerals at 7 minutes is different from having 100 minerals at 10 minutes. So no, you can't say the cost of a bunker is only 25 after you have salvaged.
How much in minerals does it cost to know the enemy you´re fighting against?
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Now bomber will kill him with a single reaper
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On February 27 2014 10:05 Fhiz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 10:03 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. you mustn't play terran I do actually. Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off. I don't allow the game to develop into a blink all in. lol I'm serious. Hard to go to blink all in off PROXY CLOAK BANSHEE FOLLOWED BY WIDOW MINE DROP
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On February 27 2014 10:05 Fhiz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 10:03 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. you mustn't play terran I do actually. Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off. I don't allow the game to develop into a blink all in. lol
Well, if he gets curbed stomped before it gets that far, he's being accurate. Don't you think?
Ooooor that. I guess. ^^
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On February 27 2014 10:05 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 10:05 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 10:03 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 10:02 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 10:00 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:59 Fhiz wrote:On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. you mustn't play terran I do actually. Have you ever faced a blink all in? It doesnt matter what money you have AFTER you have held a blink all in, it is the money you have while trying to hold it off. I don't allow the game to develop into a blink all in. lol Well, if he gets curbed stomped before it gets that far, he's being accurate. Don't you think? Ooooor that. I guess. ^^ This is also true sometimes I die to zealot/stalker/msc
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your Country52797 Posts
On February 27 2014 10:02 The_Templar wrote:Arthur spawns in the top right Bomber spawns in the bottom left 1:00 Bomber proxies a barracks right under Arthur's main, followed by a refinery. Arthur getting two assimilators after a gateway.
2:00 Second barracks in Bomber's main base. Reaper for Bomber. Arthur not getting a zealot.
3:00 Cybernetics core and reaper finish at nearly the same time. Reaper immediately kills a probe. Stalker being chronoboosted out. Second reaper finishes. Bomber killd a second probe.
4:00 Stalker and mothership core whaling on the barracks. Reapers kill another probe. Bomber getting a CC. Bomber mining very little gas currently. Twilight council for Arthur.
5:00 Bomber getting a third barracks, and a fourth. Stim starts for Bomber. Blink for Arthur.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Its because of people like us that the bunker build time was buffed and nerfed 20 times.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
I guess, i know the ending of this.
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On February 27 2014 10:04 Greendotz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 09:57 Darkhorse wrote:On February 27 2014 09:56 Greendotz wrote: Seriously though, is this a gamble by Bomber? Assuming blink just off an MSC with zero scouting seems quite risky. It costs 100 minerals to build 4 bunkers so it's not a huge deal. Well no not really, it's 400 since salvage is irrelevant as at that point of time. 400 minerals that early on (and at that level of play) is freaking huge. The fact that you can salvage later on is of little use if your opponent goes double forge robo. also the statement is wrong: it doesnt cost 100 to BUILD 4 Bunkers it costs 400. Instead of 400 minerals running into bunkers a CC would let you keep up in eco if it is just fake or misread. So if you build 4 bunkers because well... basically they only cost 25 per piece, you will fall behind very quickly
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Didn't work on two bases, let just do the same on one base.
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Unscouted blink all-in -> make loads of bunkers. Scout blink all-in -> dont make loads of bunkers #bomberlogic
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