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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 25 2014 12:19 GMT
#301
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 25 2014 12:19 GMT
#302
On February 25 2014 21:17 VmY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:12 Heartland wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote:
Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?


It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.


I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.

It just seems so underwhelming.


It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.

But that is a lot of theory crafting :D
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37122 Posts
February 25 2014 12:19 GMT
#303
On February 25 2014 21:17 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:15 liberate71 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:12 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:10 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:08 liberate71 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote:
"GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.


They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.

I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)

Either that or a well baited flank.

Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\

I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.

Because:
VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.


I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"

VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS

Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p

But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.

VERY COMMONLY SEEN STORMS!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 25 2014 12:19 GMT
#304
Hydra this is too soon.
The curse is real
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 25 2014 12:20 GMT
#305
On February 25 2014 21:17 VmY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:12 Heartland wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote:
Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?


It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.


I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.

It just seems so underwhelming.


To me it looks like a waste of supply 9/10 times...
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 25 2014 12:20 GMT
#306
On February 25 2014 21:16 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:15 WGT-Baal wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:14 gobbledydook wrote:
lol why do I keep betting on CJ
I can't recall a time when they didn't let me down.


the preseason went well...

they went full tryhard in preseason though

almost the 2008 Detroit Lions of proleague
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 25 2014 12:20 GMT
#307
On February 25 2014 21:17 VmY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:12 Heartland wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote:
Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?


It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.


I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.

It just seems so underwhelming.

With the current Mine it's not particularly worth it to use a reactor on the Factory, but it's not really "bad" either. Honestly, from personal experience, whether you do it or not does not seem to modify a lot the outcome of the game.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 25 2014 12:20 GMT
#308
On February 25 2014 21:15 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:12 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:10 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:08 liberate71 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote:
"GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.


They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.

I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)

Either that or a well baited flank.

Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\

I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.

Because:
VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.


I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"


Irony is cool, but still. Why "GREAT GREAT STOOOORMS", while they could just say "Storms goes down" / "Storms miss".*
Bleh, for the sake of "hype" I suppose...
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 25 2014 12:20 GMT
#309
On February 25 2014 21:19 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:17 VmY wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:12 Heartland wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote:
Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?


It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.


I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.

It just seems so underwhelming.


It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.

But that is a lot of theory crafting :D


I don't think he would play a game in PL in anticipation that this strat will be good... in a few weeks.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3577 Posts
February 25 2014 12:21 GMT
#310
On February 25 2014 21:17 Caladan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:15 robson1 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:14 Caladan wrote:
Maybe it's Coach Park's fault?


or maybe they have 1 good player and that's herO.


I don't recall CJ being so bad in the past. :o


2009-2010 was pretty bad too (except for one round if I remember correctly...)
Horang2 fan
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
February 25 2014 12:21 GMT
#311
rogue, ryul2, savage, climax come on!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
February 25 2014 12:21 GMT
#312
On February 25 2014 21:15 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:14 Caladan wrote:
Maybe it's Coach Park's fault?


or maybe they have 1 good player and that's herO.

I dont think SC2 coaches matter that much compared to other sports.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
February 25 2014 12:21 GMT
#313
On February 25 2014 21:20 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:16 opterown wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:15 WGT-Baal wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:14 gobbledydook wrote:
lol why do I keep betting on CJ
I can't recall a time when they didn't let me down.


the preseason went well...

they went full tryhard in preseason though

almost the 2008 Detroit Lions of proleague
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season

i don't understand the reference but okay
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 25 2014 12:21 GMT
#314
On February 25 2014 21:20 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:19 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:17 VmY wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:12 Heartland wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote:
Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?


It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.


I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.

It just seems so underwhelming.


It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.

But that is a lot of theory crafting :D


I don't think he would play a game in PL in anticipation that this strat will be good... in a few weeks.


Yeah that is why I said "a lot of theory crafting"...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 25 2014 12:22 GMT
#315
On February 25 2014 21:21 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:20 Shellshock wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:16 opterown wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:15 WGT-Baal wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:14 gobbledydook wrote:
lol why do I keep betting on CJ
I can't recall a time when they didn't let me down.


the preseason went well...

they went full tryhard in preseason though

almost the 2008 Detroit Lions of proleague
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season

i don't understand the reference but okay

look at the preseason vs regular season
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 25 2014 12:22 GMT
#316
On February 25 2014 21:19 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:17 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:15 liberate71 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:12 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:10 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:08 liberate71 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote:
"GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.


They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.

I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)

Either that or a well baited flank.

Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\

I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.

Because:
VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.


I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"

VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS

Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p

But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.

VERY COMMONLY SEEN STORMS!

SENSIBLE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 25 2014 12:22 GMT
#317
On February 25 2014 21:21 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:20 Shellshock wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:16 opterown wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:15 WGT-Baal wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:14 gobbledydook wrote:
lol why do I keep betting on CJ
I can't recall a time when they didn't let me down.


the preseason went well...

they went full tryhard in preseason though

almost the 2008 Detroit Lions of proleague
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season

i don't understand the reference but okay


Lions went 4-0 in NFL preseason and then 0-16 in regular.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 25 2014 12:22 GMT
#318
On February 25 2014 21:22 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2014 21:19 Seeker wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:17 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:15 liberate71 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:12 SC2Toastie wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:10 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:08 liberate71 wrote:
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote:
"GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.


They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.

I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)

Either that or a well baited flank.

Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\

I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.

Because:
VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.


I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"

VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS

Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p

But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.

VERY COMMONLY SEEN STORMS!

SENSIBLE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


swagtastic storms
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
February 25 2014 12:23 GMT
#319
While it seems easy to storm a bunch of units it's not that easy when you play the game. That might be because I suck at starcraft, ut still
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 12:23:39
February 25 2014 12:23 GMT
#320
CJ just needs a + Show Spoiler +
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