On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
To me it looks like a waste of supply 9/10 times...
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
With the current Mine it's not particularly worth it to use a reactor on the Factory, but it's not really "bad" either. Honestly, from personal experience, whether you do it or not does not seem to modify a lot the outcome of the game.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
Irony is cool, but still. Why "GREAT GREAT STOOOORMS", while they could just say "Storms goes down" / "Storms miss".* Bleh, for the sake of "hype" I suppose...
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.
But that is a lot of theory crafting :D
I don't think he would play a game in PL in anticipation that this strat will be good... in a few weeks.
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.
But that is a lot of theory crafting :D
I don't think he would play a game in PL in anticipation that this strat will be good... in a few weeks.
Yeah that is why I said "a lot of theory crafting"...
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
EPT
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