★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (12)
39%
★★★- Good game (4)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
3%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
16%
31 total votes
Your vote: Recommend effOrt vs Maru?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
12%
★★★- Good game (9)
53%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
18%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs sOs?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★★★- Good game (7)
64%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
18%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Hydra vs Rogue?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★- Good game (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
69%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend herO vs Cure?
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
57%
★★★- Good game (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
14%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
e: actually, do anti team players gain you points when they lose ace matches? because then sOs in ace would be much better
Indeed they do, if the are brought out and lose the - of losing is big enough to counter the + from being sent out as ace. You need to be made of balls sitting on a dungeon filled to the rim with balls in a country made of balls to make your anti out of ace players hoping they are sent out as ace and lose though, serious balls.
And again. Considering fact that Zealously and Wax guessed every even match winner right, let's go with JinAir. Lovely sOs will win, Rogue will lose again and Cure will just stamp another loss into CJ's record-book.
On February 25 2014 18:21 opterown wrote: effort's not that good vsT, i wouldn't worry tooooo much. i mean hell he lost to mkp just as he switched to lol
On February 25 2014 20:24 Waxangel wrote: either team starting in last place would be so embarassing :[
Prime is sick of being the punching back I guess... so I smell trouble for CJ.
CJ wasn't far off the punching bag last round too - although i'm pretty sure MVP will finish in last this round
Yeah I think Mvp or prime for sure. Prime shouldn't get overconfident from winning a series... Creator is still shaky, MKP will for sure have to play some catch up and besides those two the lineup still does not impress at all.
On February 25 2014 20:24 Waxangel wrote: either team starting in last place would be so embarassing :[
Prime is sick of being the punching back I guess... so I smell trouble for CJ.
CJ wasn't far off the punching bag last round too - although i'm pretty sure MVP will finish in last this round
Yeah I think Mvp or prime for sure. Prime shouldn't get overconfident from winning a series... Creator is still shaky, MKP will for sure have to play some catch up and besides those two the lineup still does not impress at all.
fair enough but i think prime can pick up at another win against IM, CJ or whatever which should save them from last, MVP vs. Prime was the battle for last place imo
On February 25 2014 20:24 Waxangel wrote: either team starting in last place would be so embarassing :[
Prime is sick of being the punching back I guess... so I smell trouble for CJ.
CJ wasn't far off the punching bag last round too - although i'm pretty sure MVP will finish in last this round
Yeah I think Mvp or prime for sure. Prime shouldn't get overconfident from winning a series... Creator is still shaky, MKP will for sure have to play some catch up and besides those two the lineup still does not impress at all.
fair enough but i think prime can pick up at another win against IM, CJ or whatever which should save them from last
On February 25 2014 20:24 Waxangel wrote: either team starting in last place would be so embarassing :[
Prime is sick of being the punching back I guess... so I smell trouble for CJ.
CJ wasn't far off the punching bag last round too - although i'm pretty sure MVP will finish in last this round
Yeah I think Mvp or prime for sure. Prime shouldn't get overconfident from winning a series... Creator is still shaky, MKP will for sure have to play some catch up and besides those two the lineup still does not impress at all.
fair enough but i think prime can pick up at another win against IM, CJ or whatever which should save them from last
Yeah they definitely got a fighting chance this time around. For starters it's good to have all the races on your lineup.
On February 25 2014 20:24 Waxangel wrote: either team starting in last place would be so embarassing :[
Prime is sick of being the punching back I guess... so I smell trouble for CJ.
CJ wasn't far off the punching bag last round too - although i'm pretty sure MVP will finish in last this round
Yeah I think Mvp or prime for sure. Prime shouldn't get overconfident from winning a series... Creator is still shaky, MKP will for sure have to play some catch up and besides those two the lineup still does not impress at all.
fair enough but i think prime can pick up at another win against IM, CJ or whatever which should save them from last
On February 25 2014 20:32 robson1 wrote: aang aang.
it's soooo bad and grating as stands, but with a mindmindmind-style remix.....
It's honestly the worst thing they have ever put on in the breaks. I say its worse than that stupid wubwubwub computer song that plays in the GSL breaks this season!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (12)
39%
★★★- Good game (4)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
3%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
16%
31 total votes
Your vote: Recommend effOrt vs Maru?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (12)
39%
★★★- Good game (4)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
3%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (5)
16%
31 total votes
Your vote: Recommend effOrt vs Maru?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On February 25 2014 20:47 juvenal wrote: Meanwhile to maru fanboys: could you stop rating 5 stars bo-wins thx.
This was not a build order win. btw. I didn't rate that game 5 stars I am quite disappointed Maru didn't give us a longer TvZ game but still, it was not a BO win.
On February 25 2014 20:47 juvenal wrote: Meanwhile to maru fanboys: could you stop rating 5 stars bo-wins thx.
This was not a build order win. btw. I didn't rate that game 5 stars I am quite disappointed Maru didn't give us a longer TvZ game but still, it was not a BO win.
i'm sorry but 11\11 vs a hatch first into 2 drones (or was it 3) into gas into pool is as close as it gets. Effort made an effort but that's it.
On February 25 2014 20:47 juvenal wrote: Meanwhile to maru fanboys: could you stop rating 5 stars bo-wins thx.
This was not a build order win. btw. I didn't rate that game 5 stars I am quite disappointed Maru didn't give us a longer TvZ game but still, it was not a BO win.
i'm sorry but 11\11 vs a hatch first into 2 drones (or was it 3) into gas into pool is as close as it gets. Effort made an effort but that's it.
but I was told zerg can hold any proxy rax even with a three hatch no pool :p
Brendan bro. Just don't say stuff that you have no idea about. Bbyong just made the Ro16. He's not on a downswing. Also sOs and creator are as far away from each other playstyle-wise as it gets, while still playing protoss.
On February 25 2014 20:47 juvenal wrote: Meanwhile to maru fanboys: could you stop rating 5 stars bo-wins thx.
This was not a build order win. btw. I didn't rate that game 5 stars I am quite disappointed Maru didn't give us a longer TvZ game but still, it was not a BO win.
i'm sorry but 11\11 vs a hatch first into 2 drones (or was it 3) into gas into pool is as close as it gets. Effort made an effort but that's it.
Even with that EffOrt could have held fine with the rally distance, it was not a 15 seconds distance proxy on a 2 player map... His decisions with lings were just bad, that's all. That was nowhere close to a build order win.
On February 25 2014 20:47 juvenal wrote: Meanwhile to maru fanboys: could you stop rating 5 stars bo-wins thx.
This was not a build order win. btw. I didn't rate that game 5 stars I am quite disappointed Maru didn't give us a longer TvZ game but still, it was not a BO win.
i'm sorry but 11\11 vs a hatch first into 2 drones (or was it 3) into gas into pool is as close as it gets. Effort made an effort but that's it.
Even with that EffOrt could have held fine with the rally distance, it was not a 15 seconds distance proxy on a 2 player map... His decisions with lings were just bad, that's all. That was nowhere close to a build order win.
On February 25 2014 20:47 juvenal wrote: Meanwhile to maru fanboys: could you stop rating 5 stars bo-wins thx.
This was not a build order win. btw. I didn't rate that game 5 stars I am quite disappointed Maru didn't give us a longer TvZ game but still, it was not a BO win.
i'm sorry but 11\11 vs a hatch first into 2 drones (or was it 3) into gas into pool is as close as it gets. Effort made an effort but that's it.
but I was told zerg can hold any proxy rax even with a three hatch no pool :p
Does that mean Life put more effort in his play to hold a 11/11 ?
On February 25 2014 20:47 juvenal wrote: Meanwhile to maru fanboys: could you stop rating 5 stars bo-wins thx.
This was not a build order win. btw. I didn't rate that game 5 stars I am quite disappointed Maru didn't give us a longer TvZ game but still, it was not a BO win.
i'm sorry but 11\11 vs a hatch first into 2 drones (or was it 3) into gas into pool is as close as it gets. Effort made an effort but that's it.
but I was told zerg can hold any proxy rax even with a three hatch no pool :p
Haha, I read that also. I don't even remember last time zerg would have hold proxy 2 rax in pro games.
On February 25 2014 20:47 juvenal wrote: Meanwhile to maru fanboys: could you stop rating 5 stars bo-wins thx.
This was not a build order win. btw. I didn't rate that game 5 stars I am quite disappointed Maru didn't give us a longer TvZ game but still, it was not a BO win.
i'm sorry but 11\11 vs a hatch first into 2 drones (or was it 3) into gas into pool is as close as it gets. Effort made an effort but that's it.
but I was told zerg can hold any proxy rax even with a three hatch no pool :p
Does that mean Life put more effort in his play to hold a 11/11 ?
Why don't we see more Terrans put on the map a few units that could jump in the protoss nat' as soon as the protoss knocks on the door like Polt did ? (True question, would it be impossible to hold then ?)
On February 25 2014 21:00 LimitSEA wrote: sOs better lose this. I need to do well this FPL and he's in my anti.
So many people wanting sOs to lose for their FPL. I feel the law of Starcraft will lead to the exact anti-result (Oh and that'd be also quite logical considering his opponent)
On February 25 2014 21:00 Ragnarork wrote: Why don't we see more Terrans put on the map a few units that could jump in the protoss nat' as soon as the protoss knocks on the door like Polt did ? (True question, would it be impossible to hold then ?)
On February 25 2014 21:00 Ragnarork wrote: Why don't we see more Terrans put on the map a few units that could jump in the protoss nat' as soon as the protoss knocks on the door like Polt did ? (True question, would it be impossible to hold then ?)
You mean in early game or in general?
Psure he means early game ~ like Polt did versus Classic/Rain in IEM.
On February 25 2014 21:00 LimitSEA wrote: sOs better lose this. I need to do well this FPL and he's in my anti.
So many people wanting sOs to lose for their FPL. I feel the law of Starcraft will lead to the exact anti-result (Oh and that'd be also quite logical considering his opponent)
Bbyong had to pull SCVs vs storm or not. He was on 2 base and saw the 3rd from toss. He was dead if he didn't expand so he might as well of pulled SCVs. Now since sOs held everything it's just a matter of time
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I can get "great storms" against units like mutas but against bio.. yeah it is pretty facepalm, especially with how many templars and storms protoss players have in current TvP.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
On February 25 2014 21:10 Bagi wrote: I love this mine play we are seeing from terrans. Haven't seen it work a single time yet but maybe the patch will help with that.
I was playing 4M vs Templar openings before the Mine nerf and it looked very promising.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
12%
★★★- Good game (9)
53%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
18%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs sOs?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
It will be much better if that mine buff goes through. But right now it is not worth it
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
It will be much better if that mine buff goes through. But right now it is not worth it
It will be better, yeah. But Korea seems to disagree with you for the second statement.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
12%
★★★- Good game (9)
53%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
18%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Bbyong vs sOs?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
It will be much better if that mine buff goes through. But right now it is not worth it
It will be better, yeah. But Korea seems to disagree with you for the second statement.
foreign terran vs. korean. I think I see a pattern here :p
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
It will be much better if that mine buff goes through. But right now it is not worth it
It will be better, yeah. But Korea seems to disagree with you for the second statement.
And we yet have to see terran win with that style.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
On February 25 2014 21:14 Caladan wrote: Maybe it's Coach Park's fault?
or maybe they have 1 good player and that's herO.
I don't recall CJ being so bad in the past. :o
They are all okay... Bbyong. Hydra. Gumiho. Effort. All of them I would low/high code A players right now. But PL is though man. And the Bo5 does not reward a lot of decent players.
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
To me it looks like a waste of supply 9/10 times...
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
With the current Mine it's not particularly worth it to use a reactor on the Factory, but it's not really "bad" either. Honestly, from personal experience, whether you do it or not does not seem to modify a lot the outcome of the game.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
Irony is cool, but still. Why "GREAT GREAT STOOOORMS", while they could just say "Storms goes down" / "Storms miss".* Bleh, for the sake of "hype" I suppose...
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.
But that is a lot of theory crafting :D
I don't think he would play a game in PL in anticipation that this strat will be good... in a few weeks.
On February 25 2014 21:11 VmY wrote: Widow mines just seem so ineffective against protoss. Can anyone explain why he would use them?
It seems popular in Korea. I guess it is because when you play vs templar/zealot you kite a lot, and protoss is often robo-less for a long time. So you can use them to cover your retreat and hurt clumped up balls of zealots.
I suppose if they use it it must show some promise.
It just seems so underwhelming.
It could be that they know something we dont. Like for example that the change will go through. So they are already preparing to actually make terran favored against protoss for awhile with a big meta change by shutting down chargelot-archon-templar play and killing protoss who open colossus by SCV pulls.
But that is a lot of theory crafting :D
I don't think he would play a game in PL in anticipation that this strat will be good... in a few weeks.
Yeah that is why I said "a lot of theory crafting"...
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
VERY COMMONLY SEEN STORMS!
SENSIBLE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not just adapt the Khaldor's "soooo many baaaneeelings" into "sooo many stooooorms"
On February 25 2014 21:23 Heartland wrote: While it seems easy to storm a bunch of units it's not that easy when you play the game. That might be because I suck at starcraft, ut still
it's not easy, unless your opponent is bad/careless that's why protoss has been doing ht flankings and warp prism ht storm.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
VERY COMMONLY SEEN STORMS!
SENSIBLE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not just adapt the Khaldor's "soooo many baaaneeelings" into "sooo many stooooorms"
On February 25 2014 21:23 Heartland wrote: While it seems easy to storm a bunch of units it's not that easy when you play the game. That might be because I suck at starcraft, ut still
yeah but you don't harp about the GREAT MACRO, when a pro player is just macroing on pro player standard. Hitting storms on a regular basis is a requirment for being a pro toss(no pun intended) player.
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
VERY COMMONLY SEEN STORMS!
SENSIBLE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not just adapt the Khaldor's "soooo many baaaneeelings" into "sooo many stooooorms"
On February 25 2014 21:06 LimitSEA wrote: "GREAT STORM" oh god why is this a thing that people say.
They can exist, its not as bad as the old "GREAT FUNGALS" - but they can be sweet.
I generally only appreciate them if they are done like Keen's EMP's (sneaky ass drop behind the army and KABOOM)
Either that or a well baited flank.
Otherwise, yeh, its a bit of a facepalm call :\
I feel like it's exactly as bad as great fungals. Storms and fungals I can only appreciate in the situations you just pointed out. Flanks or drops behind the army. When it's just a normal engagement I don't like it. Great just doesn't seem like the right word to use, honestly.
Because: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE STORMS or VERY REASONABLE STORMS doesn't quite have the hype to it.
I prefer the old "VERY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FRIENDLY STORMS"
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD STORMS
Like, these all are like -quite- not doing it :p
But then again, calling great storm because a player manages to hit 8 terran units with 4 storms is a bit meh as well.
VERY COMMONLY SEEN STORMS!
SENSIBLE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not just adapt the Khaldor's "soooo many baaaneeelings" into "sooo many stooooorms"
Well I wonder if Hydra has been practicing a little bit, I thought kespa players sit around all day looking at a wall. Stop making him look so bad lol.
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I guess most people forgot hydra was the best zerg last season and also some of the most streaky player. He could throw in the worst horrible way but he could also beat anyone
I think what the casters are missing here is that this is probably an anti-Blink build where you have no Forge and no Robo. So if your eco gets messed up before you get your gates and Blink going then you're in a bad spot. But hero's not going for that, so it doesn't work as well
On February 25 2014 21:52 Heartland wrote: I think what the casters are missing here is that this is probably an anti-Blink build where you have no Forge and no Robo. So if your eco gets messed up before you get your gates and Blink going then you're in a bad spot. But hero's not going for that, so it doesn't work as well
Yeah I´m getting really frustfrated to see Wolf and Brenden bash this build so much.
On February 25 2014 07:14 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: And again. Considering fact that Zealously and Wax guessed every even match winner right, let's go with JinAir. Lovely sOs will win, Rogue will lose again and Cure will just stamp another loss into CJ's record-book.
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Seems like Terrans are building more marauders. That's countering P's recent preference for stalkers and storms. I'd expect to see more immortals from P later this week and next.
How the hell was herO down in supply the whole game when he had such a good start with cure's build doing 0 damage ??? Why did he take his 3rd so late ? I just can't understand what happened lol
On February 25 2014 22:08 RouaF wrote: How the hell was herO down in supply the whole game when he had such a good start with cure's build doing 0 damage ??? Why did he take his 3rd so late ? I just can't understand what happened lol
He seemed to be going for a 2 base timing attack, that's why he cut probes for so long and didn't take a third until much later. But his timing failed.
herO got greedy - expected that Cure's fail build would leave Cure in a bigger hole than it did. So when herO moved out to end him, herO stopped making probes - but he didn't have enough army to end the game.
On February 25 2014 22:10 Bowzar wrote: What exactly does the coach mean when he says they will work harder? Dont they all practice like 12 hours a day?
sOs was allegedly a casual player on Woongjin Stars so he probably only practices 10 hours a day
On February 25 2014 22:08 RouaF wrote: How the hell was herO down in supply the whole game when he had such a good start with cure's build doing 0 damage ??? Why did he take his 3rd so late ? I just can't understand what happened lol
He seemed to be going for a 2 base timing attack, that's why he cut probes for so long and didn't take a third until much later. But his timing failed.
But he didn't even produce that much units... he was still down in supply... 2 base chargelot templar attacks used to work but you need much more zealots
On February 25 2014 22:10 Bowzar wrote: What exactly does the coach mean when he says they will work harder? Dont they all practice like 12 hours a day?
On February 25 2014 22:10 Bowzar wrote: What exactly does the coach mean when he says they will work harder? Dont they all practice like 12 hours a day?
sOs was allegedly a casual player on Woongjin Stars so he probably only practices 10 hours a day
On February 25 2014 22:10 Bowzar wrote: What exactly does the coach mean when he says they will work harder? Dont they all practice like 12 hours a day?
At least 25 hours a day.
tbh, their practice is only against CJ. So, not the most effective.
"Oh yeah herO should go 2-0 in week one he's been playing great! And I know you originally had Cure in your lineup but he has two hard opponents he'll probably go 0-2" - my brain.
On February 25 2014 22:42 Shellshock wrote: With Hydra winning today (previously 0-5), TerrOr is now the player with the worst record of the season at 0-4\
sOs improves to a monstrous 3-7
Officially 3-6 :D
On February 25 2014 23:49 EngrishTeacher wrote: Coach Park why u lose u mojo
Unless a miraculous 180 turn happens with CJ, they are going to be the Airforce ACE of this season.
Nah, with new points system, CJ Entus can throw 2 rounds into dump, then suddenly get two 3rd places which they're completely capable of, or even just climb to round playoffs and they will have enough to enter SPL playoffs.
On February 25 2014 22:46 Darkhorse wrote: Worst FPL player ever = me
"Oh yeah herO should go 2-0 in week one he's been playing great! And I know you originally had Cure in your lineup but he has two hard opponents he'll probably go 0-2" - my brain.
Man CJ is just TERRIBLE in SPL this year.. why is this? Coach Park is really looking like he has no fucking clue how to prepare his team for matches. He's taken Sora a perfectly good Protoss player and turned him into shit, herO just wrecks in Individual leagues where he's far far away from Coach park and his curse, but as soon as he comes back for PL Coach Park puts his juju on him and he sucks. Hydra finally won a game maybe he can let everyone know how to shake the Cure of Coach Park? Please Hydra share your secret!!!
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