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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 22 2014 21:19 GMT
#521
On February 23 2014 06:18 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote:
In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost.


Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement.


Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression?


Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.


maybe there's a reason on terran can't pull of full macro games against protoss?

Yes, they haven't adapted to modern protoss styles.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
February 22 2014 21:19 GMT
#522
On February 23 2014 06:18 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote:
In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost.


Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement.


Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression?


Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.


maybe there's a reason why terran can't pull of full macro games against protoss?


Yeah, they suck :D
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
February 22 2014 21:19 GMT
#523
On February 23 2014 06:16 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:13 The_Templar wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:12 scypio wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:11 The_Templar wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:11 arkedos wrote:
how is a terran supposed to beat the warp ins. Everytime you kill the army, wooooooosh 20 zealots and they slice up the rest of your army. A terran need to win so convincingly.

But in the end the better player won and that was Lilbow. Huge props to him.

Lilbow had twice the economy of ForGG


You mean 1 nexus in the nat, no main base and no tech and half the army supply? And then he made a comeback.


He had the third the whole time, and put ForGG on just his main for quite a while before he started long distance mining from the back third.


Nope, ForGG killed that too. He was literally on 1 nexus and a bunch of Gateways for a pretty long time.

Lilbow had+1/+2 on his zealots though. It made them a lot harder to kill. I honestly feel that Lilbow won due to ForGG's mistakes rather than his own skill.
CriMsoN sc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan10 Posts
February 22 2014 21:19 GMT
#524
It's kinda funny ForGG REFUSES to build any ghost even after he sees mass HTs and proceed to whine about Protoss... I mean what would happen if Protoss doesn't build any colossi and die to mass hydra every game and goes to say "this game is BROKEN" ...well people will just say NO UR JUST BAD DUH. But against Protoss, it's totally justified to complain about race always?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 22 2014 21:19 GMT
#525
On February 23 2014 06:18 i.of.the.storm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote:
In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost.


Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement.


Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression?


Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.


I guess in this instance after the pseudo-base race ForGG was not in the best position to macro, but yeah... the trouble is, you either play greedy and get all-ined, or live in fear of the all-in and fall behind in macro. Or well, I think Polt strikes a nice balance, and I really don't get why more Terrans don't play like him, because his style doesn't seem that hard to be honest.


Polt slept 3 hours a day to create that style. I'm pretty sure its difficult to pull off.
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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
February 22 2014 21:20 GMT
#526
Didn't see anyone post this yet.

hundred thousand krouner
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 22 2014 21:20 GMT
#527
On February 23 2014 06:19 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:18 Noonius wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote:
In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost.


Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement.


Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression?


Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.


maybe there's a reason why terran can't pull of full macro games against protoss?


Yeah, they suck :D


Welcome back Patchzerg era discussion:

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 22 2014 21:20 GMT
#528
On February 23 2014 06:20 Zheryn wrote:
Didn't see anyone post this yet.

https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/437332910929371136

Lilbow is balance whining now? Oh great.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 22 2014 21:21 GMT
#529
On February 23 2014 06:20 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:19 scypio wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:18 Noonius wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote:
In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost.


Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement.


Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression?


Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.


maybe there's a reason why terran can't pull of full macro games against protoss?


Yeah, they suck :D


Welcome back Patchzerg era discussion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ul3LEtMQzw

Isn't that joke ~2 months late?
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
February 22 2014 21:21 GMT
#530
Feel a little bad on behalf of ForGG. Guess he died along with the Hellbat nerfs Still, it's really hard not to be happy for Lilbow and XMG, nice to see a new player rise to stardom through WCS the same way Bunny did last year.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 22 2014 21:21 GMT
#531
Oh just fuck it I lost it.

Protoss is way too forgiving. Whatever they do you can never counter attack because they already have next tech path ready to go.

Same thing happened with Flash when he tried to punish that failed proxy oracle against cc 1st, now that game on Frost as well.

If experienced terrans like ForGG and Flash can't tell when you can actually find an opening to punish protoss who is teching or expanding after a failed opening, I just don't know what to say about those games anymore.

Either all terrans are dumb noobs or there is actually no opening to find.

Not to mention how many storms protoss players have these days, EMP isn't even a counter when templars outnumber ghosts at least 2:1.... Not to mention the never dying chargelots.

Just ban me for 2 days I need a break from this. I just hope ForGG will feel better tomorrow and won't really retire that would be quite a shame.

User was temp banned for this post.
Tzuborg
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway171 Posts
February 22 2014 21:21 GMT
#532
I guess Lilbowwow is just simply better than ForGG. As Desrow is better than Apocalypse.
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
February 22 2014 21:21 GMT
#533
On February 23 2014 06:20 Zheryn wrote:
Didn't see anyone post this yet.

https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/437332910929371136



Although he deserved the win, it is kinda mean ^^
love esports - hate homophobia
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
February 22 2014 21:21 GMT
#534
This tourny has the sickest opening graphics.
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 22 2014 21:22 GMT
#535
On February 23 2014 06:19 CriMsoN sc2 wrote:
It's kinda funny ForGG REFUSES to build any ghost even after he sees mass HTs and proceed to whine about Protoss... I mean what would happen if Protoss doesn't build any colossi and die to mass hydra every game and goes to say "this game is BROKEN" ...well people will just say NO UR JUST BAD DUH. But against Protoss, it's totally justified to complain about race always?


I wish ghost hard counter HTs as much as colossi hard counters Hydras.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 22 2014 21:22 GMT
#536
On February 23 2014 06:21 Tzuborg wrote:
I guess Lilbowwow is just simply better than ForGG. As Desrow is better than Apocalypse.

Exactly!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
February 22 2014 21:22 GMT
#537
On February 23 2014 06:19 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:18 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:
On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote:
In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost.


Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement.


Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression?


Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.


I guess in this instance after the pseudo-base race ForGG was not in the best position to macro, but yeah... the trouble is, you either play greedy and get all-ined, or live in fear of the all-in and fall behind in macro. Or well, I think Polt strikes a nice balance, and I really don't get why more Terrans don't play like him, because his style doesn't seem that hard to be honest.


Polt slept 3 hours a day to create that style. I'm pretty sure its difficult to pull off.


Haha yeah, I don't mean that it's super easy to play the way he does, but at the same time it doesn't look super flashy or complicated. He doesn't have to split like Maru, his play is just very tactically solid. Been trying to learn his style recently, but since I'm a scrub I haven't yet had success with it but I feel like pro Terrans should be able to learn it, no?
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 22 2014 21:22 GMT
#538
WCS EU Premier: RO16

(P)Lilbow vs (P)BabyKnight
0-0


Map: Polar Night


Lilbow spawns in the top
BabyKnight spawns in the bottom
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 22 2014 21:22 GMT
#539
On February 23 2014 06:22 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:21 Tzuborg wrote:
I guess Lilbowwow is just simply better than ForGG. As Desrow is better than Apocalypse.

Exactly!

He certainly played better
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
February 22 2014 21:23 GMT
#540
On February 23 2014 06:22 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 06:19 CriMsoN sc2 wrote:
It's kinda funny ForGG REFUSES to build any ghost even after he sees mass HTs and proceed to whine about Protoss... I mean what would happen if Protoss doesn't build any colossi and die to mass hydra every game and goes to say "this game is BROKEN" ...well people will just say NO UR JUST BAD DUH. But against Protoss, it's totally justified to complain about race always?


I wish ghost hard counter HTs as much as colossi hard counters Hydras.


loll so true... ghosts are useless once they are out of energy too.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
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