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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 23 2014 06:13 Loccstana wrote: that feeling of storming your own units and still winning...
Storm only does some damage to Toss units, but they slaughter Terran units so one could say that if the storm hits both units, the Protoss is ahead.
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Lilbow, according to Aligulac, had less than a 12% chance to do what just happened.
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On February 23 2014 06:11 shid0x wrote: AH AH AH AH AH
well i just lost 200 euros and all my night pleasure. forGG is last in his group... LAST FORGG WTF
Thank you millenium. I'm gonna get drunk now, please lilbow rolfstomp BBK at least and do it for france. signing of. I'm going with you.
Good night all, I'm so fucking mad/sad.
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On February 23 2014 06:13 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:12 scypio wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 The_Templar wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 arkedos wrote: how is a terran supposed to beat the warp ins. Everytime you kill the army, wooooooosh 20 zealots and they slice up the rest of your army. A terran need to win so convincingly.
But in the end the better player won and that was Lilbow. Huge props to him. Lilbow had twice the economy of ForGG You mean 1 nexus in the nat, no main base and no tech and half the army supply? And then he made a comeback. He had the third the whole time, and put ForGG on just his main for quite a while before he started long distance mining from the back third.
ForGG killed the main base and the third. Then lilbow double expanded (to third and fourth).
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On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote: In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost. Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement.
Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression?
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On February 23 2014 06:13 Musicus wrote:he is so upset  Not good... even the best have bad days, i hope he change his mind.
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After seeing Forggs play at IEM and his duck video I really became a fan and now he is out ;(
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your Country52797 Posts
On February 23 2014 06:14 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:13 The_Templar wrote:On February 23 2014 06:12 scypio wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 The_Templar wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 arkedos wrote: how is a terran supposed to beat the warp ins. Everytime you kill the army, wooooooosh 20 zealots and they slice up the rest of your army. A terran need to win so convincingly.
But in the end the better player won and that was Lilbow. Huge props to him. Lilbow had twice the economy of ForGG You mean 1 nexus in the nat, no main base and no tech and half the army supply? And then he made a comeback. He had the third the whole time, and put ForGG on just his main for quite a while before he started long distance mining from the back third. ForGG killed the main base and the third. Then lilbow double expanded (to third and fourth). Hold on, reading my own LR so I can remember what happened.
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Ok, you are absolutely right, my bad
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Terran players need to take responsibility for their poor tvp results and stop whining about the spectre of 'imbalance'. Forgg played badly, that's all there is to it.
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On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote: In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost. Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement. Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression?
Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.
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On February 23 2014 06:13 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:12 scypio wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 The_Templar wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 arkedos wrote: how is a terran supposed to beat the warp ins. Everytime you kill the army, wooooooosh 20 zealots and they slice up the rest of your army. A terran need to win so convincingly.
But in the end the better player won and that was Lilbow. Huge props to him. Lilbow had twice the economy of ForGG You mean 1 nexus in the nat, no main base and no tech and half the army supply? And then he made a comeback. He had the third the whole time, and put ForGG on just his main for quite a while before he started long distance mining from the back third.
Nope, ForGG killed that too. He was literally on 1 nexus and a bunch of Gateways for a pretty long time.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 23 2014 06:15 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:14 scypio wrote:On February 23 2014 06:13 The_Templar wrote:On February 23 2014 06:12 scypio wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 The_Templar wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 arkedos wrote: how is a terran supposed to beat the warp ins. Everytime you kill the army, wooooooosh 20 zealots and they slice up the rest of your army. A terran need to win so convincingly.
But in the end the better player won and that was Lilbow. Huge props to him. Lilbow had twice the economy of ForGG You mean 1 nexus in the nat, no main base and no tech and half the army supply? And then he made a comeback. He had the third the whole time, and put ForGG on just his main for quite a while before he started long distance mining from the back third. ForGG killed the main base and the third. Then lilbow double expanded (to third and fourth). Hold on, reading my own LR so I can remember what happened. .. Ok, you are absolutely right, my bad 
Now you know how Tasteless feels.
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On February 23 2014 06:16 Fission wrote: Terran players need to take responsibility for their poor tvp results and stop whining about the spectre of 'imbalance'. Forgg played badly, that's all there is to it.
Church!! wp by lilbow
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United States23455 Posts
On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote: In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost. Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement. Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression? Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off. This is super confusing.
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your Country52797 Posts
On February 23 2014 06:16 shockaslim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:13 The_Templar wrote:On February 23 2014 06:12 scypio wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 The_Templar wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 arkedos wrote: how is a terran supposed to beat the warp ins. Everytime you kill the army, wooooooosh 20 zealots and they slice up the rest of your army. A terran need to win so convincingly.
But in the end the better player won and that was Lilbow. Huge props to him. Lilbow had twice the economy of ForGG You mean 1 nexus in the nat, no main base and no tech and half the army supply? And then he made a comeback. He had the third the whole time, and put ForGG on just his main for quite a while before he started long distance mining from the back third. Nope, ForGG killed that too. He was literally on 1 nexus and a bunch of Gateways for a pretty long time. Lilbow lost his third and then took it again pretty quickly, also he lost all his gateways and rebuilt them at the third.
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ForGG has looked terrible ever since he beat jaedong in ASUS.
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On February 23 2014 06:14 felisconcolori wrote: Lilbow, according to Aligulac, had less than a 12% chance to do what just happened.
His first match is recorded at the end of June 2013, clearly a talented dude who started late.
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On February 23 2014 06:17 Morbidius wrote: ForGG has looked terrible ever since he beat jaedong in ASUS. Imo he was figured out hardcore.
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On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote: In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost. Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement. Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression? Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.
maybe there's a reason why terran can't pull of full macro games against protoss?
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On February 23 2014 06:16 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 06:15 i.of.the.storm wrote:On February 23 2014 06:11 shockaslim wrote:On February 23 2014 06:10 DaedricTV wrote: In before people complain about Protoss instead of pointing out that it's ForGG's fault he lost. Well it is always the losers fault that they lost. Thats a loaded statement. Yeah, ForGG definitely played subpar, but why is no one willing to admit that it's a little silly how Terran can never counter Protoss aggression? Every terran plays silly TvP. They should just play macro games and win, unfortunately there is not a single player that can pull it off.
I guess in this instance after the pseudo-base race ForGG was not in the best position to macro, but yeah... the trouble is, you either play greedy and get all-ined, or live in fear of the all-in and fall behind in macro. Or well, I think Polt strikes a nice balance, and I really don't get why more Terrans don't play like him, because his style doesn't seem that hard to be honest.
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