On February 17 2014 07:03 NarutO wrote: Why the hell are so many people negative? Yes people don't like allins, I can understand. People don't like their favorite losing, I get that. But who the hell can say that this series wasn't nailbiting and exciting till the end? Seriously what is wrong with you. Today we got some of the best Starcraft out there and we should all be happy that IEM hits over 80000 viewers.
Please make the scene a bit more enjoyable for yourself.
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Basicly Fuck DTs, i hate them. I hate them all. Fuck it. God fucking damn it. IM OUT
On February 17 2014 07:03 NarutO wrote: Why the hell are so many people negative? Yes people don't like allins, I can understand. People don't like their favorite losing, I get that. But who the hell can say that this series wasn't nailbiting and exciting till the end? Seriously what is wrong with you. Today we got some of the best Starcraft out there and we should all be happy that IEM hits over 80000 viewers.
Please make the scene a bit more enjoyable for yourself.
Basicly Fuck DTs, i hate them. I hate them all. Fuck it. God fucking damn it. IM OUT
Inca claims another victim
Inca beating Nada with DTs has to be the most frustrated I've ever been watching professional Starcraft. I thoroughly enjoyed watching Nestea thrash him in the finals. Fucking deprived us of what could have been the best GSL Finals ever.
I think Hero might cheese him out in 1-2 games...but lets hope it'll be 4-0 polt;)
4-0 is not unlikely, Rain is imo the better player and he beat him.
HerO's cheesebook is way better than Rain who is strongest in standard play. This could get close but I really want Polt to win because I am super annoyed at HerO and protoss in general.
Even as a terran that game was so annoying to watch. Yes JD had a bad trade at HerO's natural but HerO failed 1st zealot attack, he failed 1st immortal push, in the end it was even 3 base zerg vs. 1 base protoss (until JD's third died) and he still wins because that map + forcefields = immortals with 60 kills.
1. He "failed" the first zealot attack but they traded minerals for minerals so it didn't do too much honestly. 2. He "failed" the first immortal push but once again huge trades and he kept his immortals alive 3. You don't get 60 kills on an immortal without SICK micro with the warp prism. Deserved.
Dude, if you think loading up a unit in a dropship so it doesn't die and forcefielding so that it can never be hit anyway is really hard to achieve, and if a 60 kill count immortal in that scenario really blows your mind, you really have little to no experience or expertise in what you're talking about lol. It's really easy and if it impresses you it's only relative to your own skill, rather to anything that impresses anyone GM+, or for many masters players. Seriously, Blizzard's own micro challenges are even harder than that. It's a two base all in, it's old and it's what protoss players do all the time. A career pro like herO not fucking up so badly that he lets his immortals die completely unecessarily is really a matter of expected and basic competence than it is any kind of 'incredible feat' from which we may derive a sense of 'deserves to win' based on a 'display of skill'. TBH, herO has first class micro but nothing about executing that all-in will ever demonstrate that lol.
So how about you have a 60-kill immortal vs JaeDong? Exactly. Shut up and appreciate HerO or you're just some bitter zerg player?
I'd be more impressed if there was a way for Zerg to fight that push off. But there isn't. The Warp Prism is never in danger of dying.
Except the warp prism did die later to hydras and queens.
I'm glad you think that a warp prism dying after being on the field for 10 fucking minutes means that its killable when it hits. You should boot up a recent soul train and find a game where someone has hydras in time for when it hits
I think Hero might cheese him out in 1-2 games...but lets hope it'll be 4-0 polt;)
4-0 is not unlikely, Rain is imo the better player and he beat him.
HerO's cheesebook is way better than Rain who is strongest in standard play. This could get close but I really want Polt to win because I am super annoyed at HerO and protoss in general.
Even as a terran that game was so annoying to watch. Yes JD had a bad trade at HerO's natural but HerO failed 1st zealot attack, he failed 1st immortal push, in the end it was even 3 base zerg vs. 1 base protoss (until JD's third died) and he still wins because that map + forcefields = immortals with 60 kills.
1. He "failed" the first zealot attack but they traded minerals for minerals so it didn't do too much honestly. 2. He "failed" the first immortal push but once again huge trades and he kept his immortals alive 3. You don't get 60 kills on an immortal without SICK micro with the warp prism. Deserved.
Dude, if you think loading up a unit in a dropship so it doesn't die and forcefielding so that it can never be hit anyway is really hard to achieve, and if a 60 kill count immortal in that scenario really blows your mind, you really have little to no experience or expertise in what you're talking about lol. It's really easy and if it impresses you it's only relative to your own skill, rather to anything that impresses anyone GM+, or for many masters players. Seriously, Blizzard's own micro challenges are even harder than that. It's a two base all in, it's old and it's what protoss players do all the time. A career pro like herO not fucking up so badly that he lets his immortals die completely unecessarily is really a matter of expected and basic competence than it is any kind of 'incredible feat' from which we may derive a sense of 'deserves to win' based on a 'display of skill'. TBH, herO has first class micro but nothing about executing that all-in will ever demonstrate that lol.
So how about you have a 60-kill immortal vs JaeDong? Exactly. Shut up and appreciate HerO or you're just some bitter zerg player?
I'd be more impressed if there was a way for Zerg to fight that push off. But there isn't. The Warp Prism is never in danger of dying.
except when it died...
Yeah the game was already over by then and even then it was HerO's fault rather than Jaedong's achievement, lol. It's not like he ever should lose it. We call that bad micro.
Everyone has to over-analyze every single game for some reason. It was a fucking epic series, just like 90% of the series in this tournament has been. I'd say it has been a huge success and the drama of who would have qualified for Katowice just added to all of that. This is by far one of the most enjoyable tournaments to watch, just sit back and enjoy the ride instead of getting all wrapped up in the little details! Cmon people!
On February 17 2014 07:13 Tossim111 wrote: if sc was a game where you could just hard counter the opponent and 1a to win upon scouting then it wouldn't really be a game of skill now would it? HerO had to do very good decision making in when to put down forcefields and their positioning, unit composition, warp-ins, warp prism micro; jaedong had to show exceptional micro ability with great decision making. They both displayed skill, although I think the mistake of jaedong would be wasting 7 roaches for 1 immortal at Hero's natural.
Well HerO's army basically harcounters what zerg has during that time. It is up to zerg to try to bait forcefields, delay the push as much as possible, go up in supply as much as possible because you will just make unfavorable trades, try to get the biggest possible concave, even surround etc.
And protoss is probably the race with most hard counters in the game.
All the haters gotta stop calling Team Liquid for Team Taeja. Hero already slapped down Innovation earlier and now EG's best player just got eliminated by Hero as well.
EPT
Polt vs 
HerO
