• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:19
CET 05:19
KST 13:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket11Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2038 users

[IEM] Cologne Day 2 - Groups A & B - Page 28

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 114 Next
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 14 2014 16:01 GMT
#541
On February 15 2014 01:00 NovaMB wrote:
Poll: Recommend Final Match Group A Game 1?

★★ - Not recommended unless you got nothing better to do (9)
 
45%

★ - Dont watch, seriously. Dont (5)
 
25%

★★★ - Good Game (4)
 
20%

★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (1)
 
5%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Group A Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good Game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you got nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Dont watch, seriously. Dont


NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 14 2014 16:02 GMT
#542
No proxy gates please, I'm trying to eat
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8643 Posts
February 14 2014 16:02 GMT
#543
If ForGG does this marauder/hellbat push with a couple of ghosts this is game before the third and additional tech can kick in for the toss. Nice gamble by Hero though
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
February 14 2014 16:02 GMT
#544
I feel kinda bad for forgg, he lost because of 1 misscouted base.
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
February 14 2014 16:02 GMT
#545
Come on, ForGG! You can do this!
Show him how you do it!
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 14 2014 16:03 GMT
#546
I really get frustrated watching this
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
February 14 2014 16:03 GMT
#547
forGG should watch the replays, just in case
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
February 14 2014 16:03 GMT
#548
Please win, forGG!
The Bomber boy
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
February 14 2014 16:03 GMT
#549
On February 15 2014 01:02 Doublemint wrote:
If ForGG does this marauder/hellbat push with a couple of ghosts this is game before the third and additional tech can kick in for the toss. Nice gamble by Hero though


Do you know how much smaller your army is in the midgame with ghosts? I guess you DON'T.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 14 2014 16:03 GMT
#550
On February 15 2014 01:01 GumBa wrote:
Meh

Conditional to your TL+ you don't get to talk bad about Protoss when it's HerO
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 14 2014 16:03 GMT
#551
On February 15 2014 01:00 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 00:55 TheDwf wrote:
On February 15 2014 00:55 Mozdk wrote:
Still no clue why terran don't take hidden bases most games vs P. Seems obv to do it as P doesn't fly overlords/medivacs around, not to mention the mulage.

And what would be the point?


More money? 3rd taken 2 mins later when it's safer and main, nat and 3rd wont mine out faster. A cc some random place just to drop mules (and mine gass if needed) can never not be worth it. You litterally need it to go unspottet for sub 2 mins... and it will be more than worth it.

Nope, because it would reduce your midgame pressure a lot (Terran's production is linear) and thus it would pay off after your short window to win the game is over. And there is zero advantage in playing lategame TvP, even with a hidden base.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 14 2014 16:04 GMT
#552
On February 15 2014 01:02 Doublemint wrote:
If ForGG does this marauder/hellbat push with a couple of ghosts this is game before the third and additional tech can kick in for the toss. Nice gamble by Hero though


The core of the army (that deals damage) is still bio. If he would add even ghosts with hellbats bio and medivacs + upgrades, his bio army would be tiny.

Try a macro game against easy AI and you will see how later your upgrades and your max would be with both hellbats and ghosts.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8643 Posts
February 14 2014 16:05 GMT
#553
On February 15 2014 01:03 PanzerElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:02 Doublemint wrote:
If ForGG does this marauder/hellbat push with a couple of ghosts this is game before the third and additional tech can kick in for the toss. Nice gamble by Hero though


Do you know how much smaller your army is in the midgame with ghosts? I guess you DON'T.


2-3 ghosts is like what? 4-5 marauders and 1-2 medivacs lol. Guess the ghost buff did not suffice ~
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
February 14 2014 16:05 GMT
#554
On February 15 2014 01:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:01 GumBa wrote:
Meh

Conditional to your TL+ you don't get to talk bad about Protoss when it's HerO

Wait, I thought people got it so TL doesn't ban paying users :p.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 14 2014 16:05 GMT
#555
On February 15 2014 01:03 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:01 GumBa wrote:
Meh

Conditional to your TL+ you don't get to talk bad about Protoss when it's HerO

Nah nothing to do with toss really was just a meh game
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
February 14 2014 16:06 GMT
#556
The power of protoss + HerO being HerO is a strong combination. HerO is looking pretty good so far in this tournament
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 14 2014 16:06 GMT
#557
On February 15 2014 01:05 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:03 PanzerElite wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:02 Doublemint wrote:
If ForGG does this marauder/hellbat push with a couple of ghosts this is game before the third and additional tech can kick in for the toss. Nice gamble by Hero though


Do you know how much smaller your army is in the midgame with ghosts? I guess you DON'T.


2-3 ghosts is like what? 4-5 marauders and 1-2 medivacs lol. Guess the ghost buff did not suffice ~

2-3 Ghosts cannot disable 5+ spread Templars.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
February 14 2014 16:06 GMT
#558
On February 15 2014 01:05 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:03 PanzerElite wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:02 Doublemint wrote:
If ForGG does this marauder/hellbat push with a couple of ghosts this is game before the third and additional tech can kick in for the toss. Nice gamble by Hero though


Do you know how much smaller your army is in the midgame with ghosts? I guess you DON'T.


2-3 ghosts is like what? 4-5 marauders and 1-2 medivacs lol. Guess the ghost buff did not suffice ~

i would like to have the upgrade back T_T
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 16:08:18
February 14 2014 16:06 GMT
#559
On February 15 2014 01:05 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:03 PanzerElite wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:02 Doublemint wrote:
If ForGG does this marauder/hellbat push with a couple of ghosts this is game before the third and additional tech can kick in for the toss. Nice gamble by Hero though


Do you know how much smaller your army is in the midgame with ghosts? I guess you DON'T.


2-3 ghosts is like what? 4-5 marauders and 1-2 medivacs lol. Guess the ghost buff did not suffice ~


He had 8 templars. 2-3 ghosts is not enough unless all templars are clumped and you can hit them before you lose the ghosts to chargelots and colossus.. after all, templars are always somewhere in the back of the army it is not really easy to get to them.

You guys are forgetting that 1st tech for terran is always medivacs becasue healing is crucial for bio to work, while protoss goes straight into templar or colossus.

So your counter tech (ghosts or vikings) will always be behind unless you are way ahead on macro.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 14 2014 16:07 GMT
#560
On February 15 2014 01:03 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:00 Mozdk wrote:
On February 15 2014 00:55 TheDwf wrote:
On February 15 2014 00:55 Mozdk wrote:
Still no clue why terran don't take hidden bases most games vs P. Seems obv to do it as P doesn't fly overlords/medivacs around, not to mention the mulage.

And what would be the point?


More money? 3rd taken 2 mins later when it's safer and main, nat and 3rd wont mine out faster. A cc some random place just to drop mules (and mine gass if needed) can never not be worth it. You litterally need it to go unspottet for sub 2 mins... and it will be more than worth it.

Nope, because it would reduce your midgame pressure a lot (Terran's production is linear) and thus it would pay off after your short window to win the game is over. And there is zero advantage in playing lategame TvP, even with a hidden base.


Well isn't ghost viking still considered unbeatable?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 114 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 151
ProTech30
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3029
Sea 1704
Leta 290
Sexy 43
Hm[arnc] 29
yabsab 28
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever177
NeuroSwarm80
League of Legends
JimRising 661
Reynor32
Other Games
summit1g7113
C9.Mang0247
Trikslyr56
CosmosSc2 19
trigger2
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 48
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 51
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki41
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo497
• Stunt245
Other Games
• Scarra734
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
3h 11m
Zoun vs Classic
SHIN vs TriGGeR
herO vs Reynor
Maru vs MaxPax
WardiTV Korean Royale
7h 41m
Replay Cast
18h 41m
RSL Revival
1d 3h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 7h
SC Evo League
1d 8h
IPSL
1d 12h
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
BSL 21
1d 15h
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
Replay Cast
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.