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Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
February 14 2014 22:06 GMT
#2261
On February 15 2014 07:01 stuchiu wrote:
Real talk. Stardust is playing some of the best SC2 of his life. i think he makes it through Group C with Jaedong.

Yeah, Stardust has been super impressive in the last few weeks. Aligulac says that since (and including) ASUS ROG he is 50-13 in games and 22-2 in matches :o
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
February 14 2014 22:11 GMT
#2262
Takes stream is once again pure gold, specially because they getting fucking drunk again :p
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
February 14 2014 22:20 GMT
#2263
Dear going full esf?
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Monoamine
Profile Joined April 2011
United States153 Posts
February 14 2014 22:20 GMT
#2264
On February 15 2014 07:04 Grumbels wrote:
I'm not sure I like Dear, I feel that outside of his one month of good play he has always been underwhelming. And even his back to back WCS victories were on the back of cheesy play, bracket luck and opponents playing unusually bad. I think it's only his victories over Maru that allow him to be a contender for player of the year in 2013, since he did have some very nice games there. (vs Taeja as well)

He also took out Soulkey in the WCS 3 season finals showing some of the best PvZ of HotS, had a great record in Proleague, and secured his GSL championship after taking down a fleet of broodlords with only stalkers WITHOUT blink. His mechanics, especially against zerg, were excellent and he showed a profusion of amazing army engagements. I think Dear is still the best Protoss player right now even though he hasn't shown the same level of play in 2014 yet.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 14 2014 22:30 GMT
#2265
On February 15 2014 07:20 Monoamine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 07:04 Grumbels wrote:
I'm not sure I like Dear, I feel that outside of his one month of good play he has always been underwhelming. And even his back to back WCS victories were on the back of cheesy play, bracket luck and opponents playing unusually bad. I think it's only his victories over Maru that allow him to be a contender for player of the year in 2013, since he did have some very nice games there. (vs Taeja as well)

He also took out Soulkey in the WCS 3 season finals showing some of the best PvZ of HotS, had a great record in Proleague, and secured his GSL championship after taking down a fleet of broodlords with only stalkers WITHOUT blink. His mechanics, especially against zerg, were excellent and he showed a profusion of amazing army engagements. I think Dear is still the best Protoss player right now even though he hasn't shown the same level of play in 2014 yet.

So dear is the best protoss player despite not winning anything in a time where protoss does extremely well?
Seems legit i guess
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ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
February 14 2014 23:06 GMT
#2266
No Rain is the best Protoss now.
Go TAEJA
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 23:10:34
February 14 2014 23:09 GMT
#2267
On February 15 2014 07:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 07:20 Monoamine wrote:
On February 15 2014 07:04 Grumbels wrote:
I'm not sure I like Dear, I feel that outside of his one month of good play he has always been underwhelming. And even his back to back WCS victories were on the back of cheesy play, bracket luck and opponents playing unusually bad. I think it's only his victories over Maru that allow him to be a contender for player of the year in 2013, since he did have some very nice games there. (vs Taeja as well)

He also took out Soulkey in the WCS 3 season finals showing some of the best PvZ of HotS, had a great record in Proleague, and secured his GSL championship after taking down a fleet of broodlords with only stalkers WITHOUT blink. His mechanics, especially against zerg, were excellent and he showed a profusion of amazing army engagements. I think Dear is still the best Protoss player right now even though he hasn't shown the same level of play in 2014 yet.

So dear is the best protoss player despite not winning anything in a time where protoss does extremely well?
Seems legit i guess

Real talk, I don't think I've ever been as impressed with Protoss play as I was with Dear's during his streak, he just seemed so complete and on another level. Reminded me of Innovation during his run.

He's definitely lost some of what he had in 2014 though, not the same player.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 15 2014 01:31 GMT
#2268
On February 15 2014 07:03 ArTiFaKs wrote:
All the Terran bitching is really getting super annoying. You are losing in 1 matchup for 2 months and the fucking world is ending. Chill the fuck out already.


Terrans have been struggling with the match up since the hell bat nerfs. Back then, it was more late game related. With the nerfs to WM,oracle buff and maps, it made the early game horrible as well. So yeah, it has been a bit longer than 2 months.

And aren't you one of the Protoss that kept claiming that TvP was fine in Code A and Terrans just weren't creative enough?
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8643 Posts
February 15 2014 01:54 GMT
#2269
On February 15 2014 10:31 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 07:03 ArTiFaKs wrote:
All the Terran bitching is really getting super annoying. You are losing in 1 matchup for 2 months and the fucking world is ending. Chill the fuck out already.


Terrans have been struggling with the match up since the hell bat nerfs. Back then, it was more late game related. With the nerfs to WM,oracle buff and maps, it made the early game horrible as well. So yeah, it has been a bit longer than 2 months.

And aren't you one of the Protoss that kept claiming that TvP was fine in Code A and Terrans just weren't creative enough?


You are right with the first point... and Blizzard is looking into it. (Yes, as usual they take their sweet time...)

But bringing up Code A? Who gives/gave a shit about Code A?
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 15 2014 02:16 GMT
#2270
hehe,the crowd really likes Jjakji.

I was trying to give Dear the benefit of the doubt even with my skepticism, but now I'm doubting he'll make it out of his code S group.
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Omen12ebirth
Profile Joined February 2014
12 Posts
February 15 2014 03:07 GMT
#2271
Pulling for Jaedong, because I'm a total fanboy.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
February 15 2014 03:15 GMT
#2272
With NovaMB self-banned, we need a new hero to make the Day 3 thread :O
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 15 2014 03:19 GMT
#2273
On February 15 2014 10:54 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 10:31 vthree wrote:
On February 15 2014 07:03 ArTiFaKs wrote:
All the Terran bitching is really getting super annoying. You are losing in 1 matchup for 2 months and the fucking world is ending. Chill the fuck out already.


Terrans have been struggling with the match up since the hell bat nerfs. Back then, it was more late game related. With the nerfs to WM,oracle buff and maps, it made the early game horrible as well. So yeah, it has been a bit longer than 2 months.

And aren't you one of the Protoss that kept claiming that TvP was fine in Code A and Terrans just weren't creative enough?


You are right with the first point... and Blizzard is looking into it. (Yes, as usual they take their sweet time...)

But bringing up Code A? Who gives/gave a shit about Code A?


Because Code A was the first big tournament after DK's post saying PvT wasn't that bad. Plus 'Code A' this season wasn't really 'Code A'. Everyone except the top 8 last season actually played in Code A and it determined the racial representation of Code S.

I am not saying Blizzard is not looking into it (albeit it is late). But it is ignorant for Protoss to claim this issue has only been going on for 2 months, is it not? The issue just got worse with the new maps.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
February 15 2014 04:00 GMT
#2274
On February 15 2014 10:54 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 10:31 vthree wrote:
On February 15 2014 07:03 ArTiFaKs wrote:
All the Terran bitching is really getting super annoying. You are losing in 1 matchup for 2 months and the fucking world is ending. Chill the fuck out already.


Terrans have been struggling with the match up since the hell bat nerfs. Back then, it was more late game related. With the nerfs to WM,oracle buff and maps, it made the early game horrible as well. So yeah, it has been a bit longer than 2 months.

And aren't you one of the Protoss that kept claiming that TvP was fine in Code A and Terrans just weren't creative enough?


You are right with the first point... and Blizzard is looking into it. (Yes, as usual they take their sweet time...)

But bringing up Code A? Who gives/gave a shit about Code A?


Apparently Blizzard did not give a shit, that's why we have 3 terrans in code S and terrans won a SINGLE Bo3 in TvP code A.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 15 2014 04:42 GMT
#2275
NovaMB is gone?

Shit EU is dead
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 15 2014 05:36 GMT
#2276
On February 15 2014 13:42 lichter wrote:
NovaMB is gone?

Shit EU is dead

Maybe Aeromi can do it? Or Boucot those guys are heroes.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 15 2014 05:57 GMT
#2277
Yeah EU aint got no passions
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
February 15 2014 08:52 GMT
#2278
On February 15 2014 12:19 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 10:54 Doublemint wrote:
On February 15 2014 10:31 vthree wrote:
On February 15 2014 07:03 ArTiFaKs wrote:
All the Terran bitching is really getting super annoying. You are losing in 1 matchup for 2 months and the fucking world is ending. Chill the fuck out already.


Terrans have been struggling with the match up since the hell bat nerfs. Back then, it was more late game related. With the nerfs to WM,oracle buff and maps, it made the early game horrible as well. So yeah, it has been a bit longer than 2 months.

And aren't you one of the Protoss that kept claiming that TvP was fine in Code A and Terrans just weren't creative enough?


You are right with the first point... and Blizzard is looking into it. (Yes, as usual they take their sweet time...)

But bringing up Code A? Who gives/gave a shit about Code A?

Because Code A was the first big tournament after DK's post saying PvT wasn't that bad. Plus 'Code A' this season wasn't really 'Code A'. Everyone except the top 8 last season actually played in Code A and it determined the racial representation of Code S.

Hasn't that been the case for a while though? Everyone but the top 8 dropped into Code A, but you would get dropped higher in the Code A bracket if you did well in Code S.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 15 2014 08:54 GMT
#2279
are they seriously not uploading replays anymore?...........
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 11:09:02
February 15 2014 11:05 GMT
#2280
On February 15 2014 10:31 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 07:03 ArTiFaKs wrote:
All the Terran bitching is really getting super annoying. You are losing in 1 matchup for 2 months and the fucking world is ending. Chill the fuck out already.


Terrans have been struggling with the match up since the hell bat nerfs. Back then, it was more late game related. With the nerfs to WM,oracle buff and maps, it made the early game horrible as well. So yeah, it has been a bit longer than 2 months.

And aren't you one of the Protoss that kept claiming that TvP was fine in Code A and Terrans just weren't creative enough?

Imho, all of it started the moment they buffed warp prism speed. The match up have gone downhill from there. Oh, and mothership being a silly unit. "We do not want players to rely on one unit skills on lategame, so we will just make a strong one unit early game that you can abuse in very multiple ways instead."
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