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Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
February 05 2014 17:52 GMT
#1381
On February 06 2014 02:29 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Honestly any Protoss that takes a 3rd base in ZvP should just gg immediately, because there is no point playing a 3 hour game at that point. If you aren't doing some kind of 2base all-in against Zerg right now just quit.

And yet Rain and herO advanced by playing macro games. How funny is that?
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 19:44:06
February 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#1382
should really stop posting the vods from twitch even if your a sub it never plays right
dumchu
Relaxurdoingfine
Profile Joined January 2014
Peru12 Posts
February 05 2014 18:55 GMT
#1383
herO almost as cool, awesome and handsome as HerO
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 05 2014 19:29 GMT
#1384
On February 06 2014 02:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 02:27 ArTiFaKs wrote:
DRG vs herO game 1 was so fucking disgusting. And for Blizzard/David Kim to come out and say that Swarm Host isn't a problem right now is just fucking embarrassing. Just remove the unit from the game it's fucking awful to watch and the gameplay involved with using that composition is straight retard mode. Rally free units while you just build mass static defense and counter every move the Protoss does because your bank/cost effectiveness is impossible to over come without just simply leaving the computer and going to do something else for 30 minutes. Honestly, Terran's don't have shit to bitch about when Swarm Host are still in this game, it's just sad and the delusion that Blizzard has that this unit adds anything to the game is mind blowing.


What's wrong in Zerg, biological race who're like insects to have units who can reproduce more and more? I guess, that's kinda ok, if i hadn't played this game i would have said for sure that Zerg have to be like that.
No reason to remove it, it has to be like that and it's not unbeatable either.


ah cmon, i am a zerg myself and i did cheer for the tosses today just cause of this stupid sh play.
It is extremely strong and i feel the toss has to play WAY better than the zerg to beat it (and if the zerg plays it perfectly i think it is pretty much unbeatable).
I mean this just can't be future for ZvP, we don't need another broodlord infestor -.-

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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 05 2014 19:40 GMT
#1385
On February 06 2014 04:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 02:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 06 2014 02:27 ArTiFaKs wrote:
DRG vs herO game 1 was so fucking disgusting. And for Blizzard/David Kim to come out and say that Swarm Host isn't a problem right now is just fucking embarrassing. Just remove the unit from the game it's fucking awful to watch and the gameplay involved with using that composition is straight retard mode. Rally free units while you just build mass static defense and counter every move the Protoss does because your bank/cost effectiveness is impossible to over come without just simply leaving the computer and going to do something else for 30 minutes. Honestly, Terran's don't have shit to bitch about when Swarm Host are still in this game, it's just sad and the delusion that Blizzard has that this unit adds anything to the game is mind blowing.


What's wrong in Zerg, biological race who're like insects to have units who can reproduce more and more? I guess, that's kinda ok, if i hadn't played this game i would have said for sure that Zerg have to be like that.
No reason to remove it, it has to be like that and it's not unbeatable either.


ah cmon, i am a zerg myself and i did cheer for the tosses today just cause of this stupid sh play.
It is extremely strong and i feel the toss has to play WAY better than the zerg to beat it (and if the zerg plays it perfectly i think it is pretty much unbeatable).
I mean this just can't be future for ZvP, we don't need another broodlord infestor -.-



No, you didn't understand :D
I feel like concept of infestor/bl/sh - is truly Zergish if i can say like that.
It's not same to "i like SH, they're fun to watch and incredibly interesting".

But if i could choose, i better give some other options for Protoss/Terran like Blizzard tries to do than removing/reworking totally total concept of SH/BL/Infestor.
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ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
February 05 2014 19:47 GMT
#1386
On February 06 2014 02:52 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 02:29 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Honestly any Protoss that takes a 3rd base in ZvP should just gg immediately, because there is no point playing a 3 hour game at that point. If you aren't doing some kind of 2base all-in against Zerg right now just quit.

And yet Rain and herO advanced by playing macro games. How funny is that?


DRG in game 3 made some major mistakes, and obviously doesn't have as much experience playing SH style. Heavy Rain is also not the greatest map for SH because of all the different paths one can take to attack. But because he overmade roaches instead of just making a wall of static defense, and the creep spread was really really weak, he lost important tech to some obvious warp prism harass that really shouldn't have done that much damage. And even playing terribly he still almost won the game in the end.

People don't understand how much of an advantage having FREE units that cost no supply, and no resources to produce, is in the late game. In the stage of the game where resources and cost effectiveness is so so important, having a free siege unit is incredibly advantageous, while at the same time requiring less expansions to keep up resource intake, and requiring less workers to produce the same amount of units. If you play properly you won't lose a single SH during the entire game, which makes them super cheap and cost effective, and there is literally no downside to producing them whatsoever. No shit you can't just remove a unit from the game, but honestly the design is just that bad. It's fucking terrible anyway you look at it. Almost every Zerg (besides Stephano) you ask says the same thing, that SH style is so incredibly boring to play, and from a viewer and fan perspective, it's extremely boring. Blizzard is making a huge mistake leaving SH how it is.



*sigh*
Because of guys like you, people hate Protoss and consider them as "only fucking op cheese" race.


How does that make Protoss "op cheese race"? Why would anybody risk probably the most important tournament of their careers in GSL Code S by letting the Zerg get up to a composition that gives them an enormous advantage over them? That just isn't smart whatever way you look at it. If anytime you go for a macro game in PvZ you have to go against swarm host, there is absolutely every incentive to just end the game before that happens. And that's in no way good for the viewers, the players, or the game as a whole. Those are 3 key things that should be taken into account when designing a unit, and Blizzard obviously didn't do that, and the refuse to do that even now.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
February 05 2014 19:50 GMT
#1387
On February 06 2014 03:55 Relaxurdoingfine wrote:
herO almost as cool, awesome and handsome as HerO


he's definitely way cooler, and at least just as handsome. But no question is much more talented and skilled right now as a player. They should team up and be the ultimate Protoss duo! How cool would that be?
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
February 05 2014 19:50 GMT
#1388
On February 06 2014 04:47 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 02:52 Swiipii wrote:
On February 06 2014 02:29 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Honestly any Protoss that takes a 3rd base in ZvP should just gg immediately, because there is no point playing a 3 hour game at that point. If you aren't doing some kind of 2base all-in against Zerg right now just quit.

And yet Rain and herO advanced by playing macro games. How funny is that?


DRG in game 3 made some major mistakes, and obviously doesn't have as much experience playing SH style. Heavy Rain is also not the greatest map for SH because of all the different paths one can take to attack. But because he overmade roaches instead of just making a wall of static defense, and the creep spread was really really weak, he lost important tech to some obvious warp prism harass that really shouldn't have done that much damage. And even playing terribly he still almost won the game in the end.

People don't understand how much of an advantage having FREE units that cost no supply, and no resources to produce, is in the late game. In the stage of the game where resources and cost effectiveness is so so important, having a free siege unit is incredibly advantageous, while at the same time requiring less expansions to keep up resource intake, and requiring less workers to produce the same amount of units. If you play properly you won't lose a single SH during the entire game, which makes them super cheap and cost effective, and there is literally no downside to producing them whatsoever. No shit you can't just remove a unit from the game, but honestly the design is just that bad. It's fucking terrible anyway you look at it. Almost every Zerg (besides Stephano) you ask says the same thing, that SH style is so incredibly boring to play, and from a viewer and fan perspective, it's extremely boring. Blizzard is making a huge mistake leaving SH how it is.


Show nested quote +

*sigh*
Because of guys like you, people hate Protoss and consider them as "only fucking op cheese" race.


How does that make Protoss "op cheese race"? Why would anybody risk probably the most important tournament of their careers in GSL Code S by letting the Zerg get up to a composition that gives them an enormous advantage over them? That just isn't smart whatever way you look at it. If anytime you go for a macro game in PvZ you have to go against swarm host, there is absolutely every incentive to just end the game before that happens. And that's in no way good for the viewers, the players, or the game as a whole. Those are 3 key things that should be taken into account when designing a unit, and Blizzard obviously didn't do that, and the refuse to do that even now.


Your description of SH is pretty much how I feel about the protoss race.
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
February 05 2014 20:01 GMT
#1389
On February 06 2014 04:50 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 04:47 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On February 06 2014 02:52 Swiipii wrote:
On February 06 2014 02:29 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Honestly any Protoss that takes a 3rd base in ZvP should just gg immediately, because there is no point playing a 3 hour game at that point. If you aren't doing some kind of 2base all-in against Zerg right now just quit.

And yet Rain and herO advanced by playing macro games. How funny is that?


DRG in game 3 made some major mistakes, and obviously doesn't have as much experience playing SH style. Heavy Rain is also not the greatest map for SH because of all the different paths one can take to attack. But because he overmade roaches instead of just making a wall of static defense, and the creep spread was really really weak, he lost important tech to some obvious warp prism harass that really shouldn't have done that much damage. And even playing terribly he still almost won the game in the end.

People don't understand how much of an advantage having FREE units that cost no supply, and no resources to produce, is in the late game. In the stage of the game where resources and cost effectiveness is so so important, having a free siege unit is incredibly advantageous, while at the same time requiring less expansions to keep up resource intake, and requiring less workers to produce the same amount of units. If you play properly you won't lose a single SH during the entire game, which makes them super cheap and cost effective, and there is literally no downside to producing them whatsoever. No shit you can't just remove a unit from the game, but honestly the design is just that bad. It's fucking terrible anyway you look at it. Almost every Zerg (besides Stephano) you ask says the same thing, that SH style is so incredibly boring to play, and from a viewer and fan perspective, it's extremely boring. Blizzard is making a huge mistake leaving SH how it is.



*sigh*
Because of guys like you, people hate Protoss and consider them as "only fucking op cheese" race.


How does that make Protoss "op cheese race"? Why would anybody risk probably the most important tournament of their careers in GSL Code S by letting the Zerg get up to a composition that gives them an enormous advantage over them? That just isn't smart whatever way you look at it. If anytime you go for a macro game in PvZ you have to go against swarm host, there is absolutely every incentive to just end the game before that happens. And that's in no way good for the viewers, the players, or the game as a whole. Those are 3 key things that should be taken into account when designing a unit, and Blizzard obviously didn't do that, and the refuse to do that even now.


Your description of SH is pretty much how I feel about the protoss race.


lol OK that's fine, and Terran's all bitched and complained for 4 months straight and finally Blizzard addressed the issues in PvT. So now when there's another issue that doesn't involve Terran's they won't say shit. So now it's our turn to complain so maybe they will fix this issue as well.

And honestly whatever your problem is with Protoss, it doesn't even compare in the slightest to SH in PvZ, so don't even try to argue that it is.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 05 2014 20:05 GMT
#1390
I skimmed through the thread a bit. I hope this isn't going to be the usual stuff this season of GSL....
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 20:36:23
February 05 2014 20:08 GMT
#1391
On February 06 2014 05:01 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 04:50 Fjodorov wrote:
On February 06 2014 04:47 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On February 06 2014 02:52 Swiipii wrote:
On February 06 2014 02:29 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Honestly any Protoss that takes a 3rd base in ZvP should just gg immediately, because there is no point playing a 3 hour game at that point. If you aren't doing some kind of 2base all-in against Zerg right now just quit.

And yet Rain and herO advanced by playing macro games. How funny is that?


DRG in game 3 made some major mistakes, and obviously doesn't have as much experience playing SH style. Heavy Rain is also not the greatest map for SH because of all the different paths one can take to attack. But because he overmade roaches instead of just making a wall of static defense, and the creep spread was really really weak, he lost important tech to some obvious warp prism harass that really shouldn't have done that much damage. And even playing terribly he still almost won the game in the end.

People don't understand how much of an advantage having FREE units that cost no supply, and no resources to produce, is in the late game. In the stage of the game where resources and cost effectiveness is so so important, having a free siege unit is incredibly advantageous, while at the same time requiring less expansions to keep up resource intake, and requiring less workers to produce the same amount of units. If you play properly you won't lose a single SH during the entire game, which makes them super cheap and cost effective, and there is literally no downside to producing them whatsoever. No shit you can't just remove a unit from the game, but honestly the design is just that bad. It's fucking terrible anyway you look at it. Almost every Zerg (besides Stephano) you ask says the same thing, that SH style is so incredibly boring to play, and from a viewer and fan perspective, it's extremely boring. Blizzard is making a huge mistake leaving SH how it is.



*sigh*
Because of guys like you, people hate Protoss and consider them as "only fucking op cheese" race.


How does that make Protoss "op cheese race"? Why would anybody risk probably the most important tournament of their careers in GSL Code S by letting the Zerg get up to a composition that gives them an enormous advantage over them? That just isn't smart whatever way you look at it. If anytime you go for a macro game in PvZ you have to go against swarm host, there is absolutely every incentive to just end the game before that happens. And that's in no way good for the viewers, the players, or the game as a whole. Those are 3 key things that should be taken into account when designing a unit, and Blizzard obviously didn't do that, and the refuse to do that even now.


Your description of SH is pretty much how I feel about the protoss race.


lol OK that's fine, and Terran's all bitched and complained for 4 months straight and finally Blizzard addressed the issues in PvT. So now when there's another issue that doesn't involve Terran's they won't say shit. So now it's our turn to complain so maybe they will fix this issue as well.

And honestly whatever your problem is with Protoss, it doesn't even compare in the slightest to SH in PvZ, so don't even try to argue that it is.


Z and T have been fightning the deathball and its ridicoulous cost-effectivness for years. Plz come back in 2016 when you have gotten really sick of it. I hate the SH as a spectator but dont tell me protoss arent winning against it.
tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
February 05 2014 20:22 GMT
#1392
Not to mention, Terran are *forced* to fight the protoss deathball every TvP because if they try to end the game before then, protoss can just laugh and click "F" on their nexus. Protoss on the other hand have a ton of all in builds in every matchup that can defeat superior players.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 20:46:48
February 05 2014 20:45 GMT
#1393
On February 05 2014 23:56 SunflowerSeeds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 23:36 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 05 2014 23:23 opisska wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:38 IcemanAsi wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:37 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:35 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:33 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:30 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:24 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:21 Heartland wrote:
00.00 daedalus which protoss whined into becoming another unbalanced map. Protoss in upper left and Zerg in lower right.
2.00 Gate expand from Rain and another hatch first.
3.10 Macro opening with another three hatch before pool
3.35 Zealot coming out across the map to exert pressure and probably kill Solar
3.51 Nexus started from toss, so equal eco with chrono boost
4.19 The zealot stays at home for some reason
4.40 Tastosis are going to get stupid facial hair. Still more interesting than ZvStupid
5.25 Great macro again from Solar but it hasn't mattered for like two games in a row. You gotta basically macro double as good as Zerg
6.02 Phoenix coming out and two gates finishing


6.50 Three toss units moving out across the map and the whole Zerg army has to retreat SIGH
7.15 Zealots trading really well against lings but finally get cleaned up
8.00 Phoenix in Zerg base
9.00 Coloss coming out for Rain. Solar trying to hang on with Roach Warren, double evo and macro hatch
10.00 +1 halfway done for Protoss. Twelve workers killed by unkillable phoenix that a bronze player can micro
10.40 Infestation Pit and Spire for Solar, really clever
11.00 Lings attacking a third for Protoss but get warded away by like five units and an msc.
11.30 Protoss being greedy and getting tech all over


13.00 Corruptor/ling out and dancing around third but can't engage ofc
14.00 Mutas out and gonna attack the Protoss main as the phoenix are out of position
14.42 Fifth base for Zerg up and running
15.25 Zerg tries to attack the Protoss army but can they do anything??
15.50 Protoss takes down the fifth with zealot runby even though zerg has map control lol
16.13 Still phoenix around but colossus and VR's are dead but it doesn't matter really
16.33 Another zerg attack
16.43 A lot of lings running into the main and nat
17.08 All the lings die more or less automatically
18.00 Three-base toss beating five base zerg haha, I am not gonna watch gsl anymore if Zerg loses this
18.24 This would never happen in starbow but blizzard doesn't care
18.50 Phoenix are hunting down corruptors. HMM, aren't they supposed to be hard counter?


20.00 Trying to switch into SH which was really the only chance
20.21 Rain is killing the fifth
20.35 protoss takes a fourth FINALLY
22.06 Phoenix killing all the SH with their lifts, haha, I can't even look at this anymore
22.30 Like a hundred lings tries to deny the protoss fourth but just warp in and a-move
23.11 Phoenix still killing colossus. Protoss has a supply lead.


24.06 Even overpaid casters are laughing at the game now
24.33 Fifth dies AGAIN to zealot runbys
25.33 Protoss moving in. Lifts all the SHs
25.40 this is disgusting. No wonder idra quit. TWO PROTOSS MOVES ON ARE YOU READY FOR ALL PVP GSL SEASON RO16? LOL!


I can't stress enough how awesome this is. Thanks for this LR :D


Awesome LR !
Thanks!


I don't know what's awesome about this, it's just balance whining from begining to the end. Yes, it's mildly funny, but that doesn't change the stupidy of the message.


There no balance whine in this, this is called sarcasm, and is based on the fact that protoss is considered a bit too strong at the moment (a position that Blizzard supports, as shown in the patch they're currently working on).

If you don't laugh, fine, just move on, rather than calling it out "stupid". Not your humour, fine, leave those who laugh in peace.


He's serving as a live reporter, not caster or commentator, similar to Seeker's translation, always like to sneak in his own stuff, very annoying.

he does it deliberately and as satire

On February 06 2014 00:49 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 00:32 Wingblade wrote:
On February 05 2014 23:23 opisska wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:38 IcemanAsi wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:37 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:35 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:33 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:30 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:24 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:21 Heartland wrote:
00.00 daedalus which protoss whined into becoming another unbalanced map. Protoss in upper left and Zerg in lower right.
2.00 Gate expand from Rain and another hatch first.
3.10 Macro opening with another three hatch before pool
3.35 Zealot coming out across the map to exert pressure and probably kill Solar
3.51 Nexus started from toss, so equal eco with chrono boost
4.19 The zealot stays at home for some reason
4.40 Tastosis are going to get stupid facial hair. Still more interesting than ZvStupid
5.25 Great macro again from Solar but it hasn't mattered for like two games in a row. You gotta basically macro double as good as Zerg
6.02 Phoenix coming out and two gates finishing


6.50 Three toss units moving out across the map and the whole Zerg army has to retreat SIGH
7.15 Zealots trading really well against lings but finally get cleaned up
8.00 Phoenix in Zerg base
9.00 Coloss coming out for Rain. Solar trying to hang on with Roach Warren, double evo and macro hatch
10.00 +1 halfway done for Protoss. Twelve workers killed by unkillable phoenix that a bronze player can micro
10.40 Infestation Pit and Spire for Solar, really clever
11.00 Lings attacking a third for Protoss but get warded away by like five units and an msc.
11.30 Protoss being greedy and getting tech all over


13.00 Corruptor/ling out and dancing around third but can't engage ofc
14.00 Mutas out and gonna attack the Protoss main as the phoenix are out of position
14.42 Fifth base for Zerg up and running
15.25 Zerg tries to attack the Protoss army but can they do anything??
15.50 Protoss takes down the fifth with zealot runby even though zerg has map control lol
16.13 Still phoenix around but colossus and VR's are dead but it doesn't matter really
16.33 Another zerg attack
16.43 A lot of lings running into the main and nat
17.08 All the lings die more or less automatically
18.00 Three-base toss beating five base zerg haha, I am not gonna watch gsl anymore if Zerg loses this
18.24 This would never happen in starbow but blizzard doesn't care
18.50 Phoenix are hunting down corruptors. HMM, aren't they supposed to be hard counter?


20.00 Trying to switch into SH which was really the only chance
20.21 Rain is killing the fifth
20.35 protoss takes a fourth FINALLY
22.06 Phoenix killing all the SH with their lifts, haha, I can't even look at this anymore
22.30 Like a hundred lings tries to deny the protoss fourth but just warp in and a-move
23.11 Phoenix still killing colossus. Protoss has a supply lead.


24.06 Even overpaid casters are laughing at the game now
24.33 Fifth dies AGAIN to zealot runbys
25.33 Protoss moving in. Lifts all the SHs
25.40 this is disgusting. No wonder idra quit. TWO PROTOSS MOVES ON ARE YOU READY FOR ALL PVP GSL SEASON RO16? LOL!


I can't stress enough how awesome this is. Thanks for this LR :D


Awesome LR !
Thanks!


I don't know what's awesome about this, it's just balance whining from begining to the end. Yes, it's mildly funny, but that doesn't change the stupidy of the message.


Don't accuse something of stupidity when you cant spell stupidity.

There is absolutely no point in make a noncontributing post like yours. Why don't you actually put some effort into your damn post instead of saying that to opisska. And you know what, after the first Protoss op joke LR report it gets annoying fast for people just trying to enjoy the game. I'm sick of everyone who thinks they have to drop balance issues in this thread after countless years of bans. Balance whines aren't responsible for keeping food on the table for moderators, Nazgul ships them one slice of bread every week.

oh i think you shouldn't post without trying to understand a bit, it should be pretty clear it's in jest, and for someone who professes to only poke their head in every now and then, you probably shouldn't comment too much.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 20:46:53
February 05 2014 20:46 GMT
#1394
Not sure how people can use these games to comment on balance, pretty sure Rain and herO were heavy favorites compared to a long-suffering DRG and the relatively unknown Solar. These results were pretty expected.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 05 2014 20:48 GMT
#1395
anyway, VODs!

(P)Rain vs. (Z)Solar:
Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3

(P)herO vs. (Z)DongRaeGu:
Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3

Winners' Match:
Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3

Losers' Match:
Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3

Final Match:
Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3

FIRST GAME OF EACH MATCH IS FREE! and on youtube
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 05 2014 21:06 GMT
#1396
herO & Rain interview!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 21:24:48
February 05 2014 21:22 GMT
#1397
On February 06 2014 05:45 opterown wrote:
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On February 05 2014 23:56 SunflowerSeeds wrote:
On February 05 2014 23:36 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 05 2014 23:23 opisska wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:38 IcemanAsi wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:37 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:35 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:33 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:30 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:24 Heartland wrote:
[quote]

6.50 Three toss units moving out across the map and the whole Zerg army has to retreat SIGH
7.15 Zealots trading really well against lings but finally get cleaned up
8.00 Phoenix in Zerg base
9.00 Coloss coming out for Rain. Solar trying to hang on with Roach Warren, double evo and macro hatch
10.00 +1 halfway done for Protoss. Twelve workers killed by unkillable phoenix that a bronze player can micro
10.40 Infestation Pit and Spire for Solar, really clever
11.00 Lings attacking a third for Protoss but get warded away by like five units and an msc.
11.30 Protoss being greedy and getting tech all over


13.00 Corruptor/ling out and dancing around third but can't engage ofc
14.00 Mutas out and gonna attack the Protoss main as the phoenix are out of position
14.42 Fifth base for Zerg up and running
15.25 Zerg tries to attack the Protoss army but can they do anything??
15.50 Protoss takes down the fifth with zealot runby even though zerg has map control lol
16.13 Still phoenix around but colossus and VR's are dead but it doesn't matter really
16.33 Another zerg attack
16.43 A lot of lings running into the main and nat
17.08 All the lings die more or less automatically
18.00 Three-base toss beating five base zerg haha, I am not gonna watch gsl anymore if Zerg loses this
18.24 This would never happen in starbow but blizzard doesn't care
18.50 Phoenix are hunting down corruptors. HMM, aren't they supposed to be hard counter?


20.00 Trying to switch into SH which was really the only chance
20.21 Rain is killing the fifth
20.35 protoss takes a fourth FINALLY
22.06 Phoenix killing all the SH with their lifts, haha, I can't even look at this anymore
22.30 Like a hundred lings tries to deny the protoss fourth but just warp in and a-move
23.11 Phoenix still killing colossus. Protoss has a supply lead.


24.06 Even overpaid casters are laughing at the game now
24.33 Fifth dies AGAIN to zealot runbys
25.33 Protoss moving in. Lifts all the SHs
25.40 this is disgusting. No wonder idra quit. TWO PROTOSS MOVES ON ARE YOU READY FOR ALL PVP GSL SEASON RO16? LOL!


I can't stress enough how awesome this is. Thanks for this LR :D


Awesome LR !
Thanks!


I don't know what's awesome about this, it's just balance whining from begining to the end. Yes, it's mildly funny, but that doesn't change the stupidy of the message.


There no balance whine in this, this is called sarcasm, and is based on the fact that protoss is considered a bit too strong at the moment (a position that Blizzard supports, as shown in the patch they're currently working on).

If you don't laugh, fine, just move on, rather than calling it out "stupid". Not your humour, fine, leave those who laugh in peace.


He's serving as a live reporter, not caster or commentator, similar to Seeker's translation, always like to sneak in his own stuff, very annoying.

he does it deliberately and as satire

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On February 06 2014 00:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On February 06 2014 00:32 Wingblade wrote:
On February 05 2014 23:23 opisska wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:38 IcemanAsi wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:37 Ragnarork wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:35 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:33 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:30 Heartland wrote:
On February 05 2014 22:24 Heartland wrote:
[quote]

6.50 Three toss units moving out across the map and the whole Zerg army has to retreat SIGH
7.15 Zealots trading really well against lings but finally get cleaned up
8.00 Phoenix in Zerg base
9.00 Coloss coming out for Rain. Solar trying to hang on with Roach Warren, double evo and macro hatch
10.00 +1 halfway done for Protoss. Twelve workers killed by unkillable phoenix that a bronze player can micro
10.40 Infestation Pit and Spire for Solar, really clever
11.00 Lings attacking a third for Protoss but get warded away by like five units and an msc.
11.30 Protoss being greedy and getting tech all over


13.00 Corruptor/ling out and dancing around third but can't engage ofc
14.00 Mutas out and gonna attack the Protoss main as the phoenix are out of position
14.42 Fifth base for Zerg up and running
15.25 Zerg tries to attack the Protoss army but can they do anything??
15.50 Protoss takes down the fifth with zealot runby even though zerg has map control lol
16.13 Still phoenix around but colossus and VR's are dead but it doesn't matter really
16.33 Another zerg attack
16.43 A lot of lings running into the main and nat
17.08 All the lings die more or less automatically
18.00 Three-base toss beating five base zerg haha, I am not gonna watch gsl anymore if Zerg loses this
18.24 This would never happen in starbow but blizzard doesn't care
18.50 Phoenix are hunting down corruptors. HMM, aren't they supposed to be hard counter?


20.00 Trying to switch into SH which was really the only chance
20.21 Rain is killing the fifth
20.35 protoss takes a fourth FINALLY
22.06 Phoenix killing all the SH with their lifts, haha, I can't even look at this anymore
22.30 Like a hundred lings tries to deny the protoss fourth but just warp in and a-move
23.11 Phoenix still killing colossus. Protoss has a supply lead.


24.06 Even overpaid casters are laughing at the game now
24.33 Fifth dies AGAIN to zealot runbys
25.33 Protoss moving in. Lifts all the SHs
25.40 this is disgusting. No wonder idra quit. TWO PROTOSS MOVES ON ARE YOU READY FOR ALL PVP GSL SEASON RO16? LOL!


I can't stress enough how awesome this is. Thanks for this LR :D


Awesome LR !
Thanks!


I don't know what's awesome about this, it's just balance whining from begining to the end. Yes, it's mildly funny, but that doesn't change the stupidy of the message.


Don't accuse something of stupidity when you cant spell stupidity.

There is absolutely no point in make a noncontributing post like yours. Why don't you actually put some effort into your damn post instead of saying that to opisska. And you know what, after the first Protoss op joke LR report it gets annoying fast for people just trying to enjoy the game. I'm sick of everyone who thinks they have to drop balance issues in this thread after countless years of bans. Balance whines aren't responsible for keeping food on the table for moderators, Nazgul ships them one slice of bread every week.

oh i think you shouldn't post without trying to understand a bit, it should be pretty clear it's in jest, and for someone who professes to only poke their head in every now and then, you probably shouldn't comment too much.

Thanks for reading my second post and repeating exactly what I said. In fact I even clarified the stupidity post was what I was upset at. There's no need for your comment here. But thanks for giving me that warm and fuzzy feeling I look for in sc2 threads.

Edit: anyone who feels they have an issue with my posting can pm me. No need to keep this further off-topic.
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Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
February 05 2014 21:42 GMT
#1398
I couldn't stand watching this. Not because of swarm hosts, but because of Protoss.
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
February 05 2014 22:58 GMT
#1399
I just don't understand the mindset of nerfing out a unit that creates free units and then adding another unit that does the same in the expansion.
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affect
Profile Joined June 2010
United States60 Posts
February 05 2014 23:36 GMT
#1400
Idk what you all are talking about. Zerg needs to go SH or they will be at a huge disadvantage, if blizz were to change the unit they better change toss too, because sh play is the only way a Z player can beat a P player without a big disadvantage. So please stop complaining about SH when its the only way a Zerg player has a chance.
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