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Australia18228 Posts
When in doubt, bet on Protoss
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France9034 Posts
On February 05 2014 22:50 Ej_ wrote:
GomexPvP
Oh snap, the rebrand, everything is clear now ! GOD DAMNIT !
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On February 05 2014 22:41 Green_25 wrote:
Thing people don't realise is, Protoss was always OP in sc2, they just hadn't figured out how to play the race properly. The Kespa protosses changed everything.
MC helps too ofc.
User was warned for this post
I'm still pretty sure this guy is a PBU. There was another "Green something" guy who posted similarly about a year back.
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
seriously lol rain and herO were the big favourites to make it out tonight, stop complaining about race when the better players win
Poll: Head?Rain & herO (95) 52% Rain & Solar (31) 17% Solar & herO (25) 14% Rain & DongRaeGu (16) 9% herO & DongRaeGu (9) 5% Solar & DongRaeGu (7) 4% 183 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): Rain & Solar
(Vote): Rain & herO
(Vote): Rain & DongRaeGu
(Vote): Solar & herO
(Vote): Solar & DongRaeGu
(Vote): herO & DongRaeGu
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On February 05 2014 22:40 Destructicon wrote:
Corrupters are such a boring unit that you wonder at times how come Blizzard didn't give it to Protoss.
this
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Oh, looks like I picked Rain and DRG on the liqqys. I guess I'm a loose cannon who likes to shoot from the hip. A wild man.
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On February 05 2014 22:52 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 22:41 Green_25 wrote:
Thing people don't realise is, Protoss was always OP in sc2, they just hadn't figured out how to play the race properly. The Kespa protosses changed everything.
MC helps too ofc.
User was warned for this post I'm still pretty sure this guy is a PBU. There was another "Green something" guy who posted similarly about a year back.
I wasn't QQing, I've just always thought Protoss was potentially the strongest race. Not sure whats wrong with saying that
The MC is probably the biggest impetus though, yes
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On February 05 2014 22:40 Destructicon wrote:
Corrupters are such a boring unit that you wonder at times how come Blizzard didn't give it to Protoss.
They are much too ineffective and one-dimensional. Protoss got the voidray instead:
- slow-moing air unit, check
- low range, check
- unmicroable (I guess you could press a button, but you don't really need to), check
- wins if you have enough, check
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Potentially :DD
So.
Zero Alterzim Strongholds tonight.
Zero Tempests.
Zero Motherships.
Zero Terrans.
Zero Zergs advanced.
Zero manner Nexuses.
Good day definitely even if Wednesday.
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On February 05 2014 22:38 IcemanAsi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 22:37 Ragnarork wrote:On February 05 2014 22:35 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:33 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:30 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:24 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:21 Heartland wrote:
00.00 daedalus which protoss whined into becoming another unbalanced map. Protoss in upper left and Zerg in lower right.
2.00 Gate expand from Rain and another hatch first.
3.10 Macro opening with another three hatch before pool
3.35 Zealot coming out across the map to exert pressure and probably kill Solar
3.51 Nexus started from toss, so equal eco with chrono boost
4.19 The zealot stays at home for some reason
4.40 Tastosis are going to get stupid facial hair. Still more interesting than ZvStupid
5.25 Great macro again from Solar but it hasn't mattered for like two games in a row. You gotta basically macro double as good as Zerg
6.02 Phoenix coming out and two gates finishing 6.50 Three toss units moving out across the map and the whole Zerg army has to retreat SIGH 7.15 Zealots trading really well against lings but finally get cleaned up 8.00 Phoenix in Zerg base 9.00 Coloss coming out for Rain. Solar trying to hang on with Roach Warren, double evo and macro hatch 10.00 +1 halfway done for Protoss. Twelve workers killed by unkillable phoenix that a bronze player can micro 10.40 Infestation Pit and Spire for Solar, really clever 11.00 Lings attacking a third for Protoss but get warded away by like five units and an msc. 11.30 Protoss being greedy and getting tech all over 13.00 Corruptor/ling out and dancing around third but can't engage ofc 14.00 Mutas out and gonna attack the Protoss main as the phoenix are out of position 14.42 Fifth base for Zerg up and running 15.25 Zerg tries to attack the Protoss army but can they do anything?? 15.50 Protoss takes down the fifth with zealot runby even though zerg has map control lol 16.13 Still phoenix around but colossus and VR's are dead but it doesn't matter really 16.33 Another zerg attack 16.43 A lot of lings running into the main and nat 17.08 All the lings die more or less automatically 18.00 Three-base toss beating five base zerg haha, I am not gonna watch gsl anymore if Zerg loses this 18.24 This would never happen in starbow but blizzard doesn't care 18.50 Phoenix are hunting down corruptors. HMM, aren't they supposed to be hard counter? 20.00 Trying to switch into SH which was really the only chance 20.21 Rain is killing the fifth 20.35 protoss takes a fourth FINALLY 22.06 Phoenix killing all the SH with their lifts, haha, I can't even look at this anymore 22.30 Like a hundred lings tries to deny the protoss fourth but just warp in and a-move 23.11 Phoenix still killing colossus. Protoss has a supply lead. 24.06 Even overpaid casters are laughing at the game now 24.33 Fifth dies AGAIN to zealot runbys 25.33 Protoss moving in. Lifts all the SHs 25.40 this is disgusting. No wonder idra quit. TWO PROTOSS MOVES ON ARE YOU READY FOR ALL PVP GSL SEASON RO16? LOL! I can't stress enough how awesome this is. Thanks for this LR :D Awesome LR ! Thanks!
I don't know what's awesome about this, it's just balance whining from begining to the end. Yes, it's mildly funny, but that doesn't change the stupidy of the message.
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Raaain! I missed the final match with Solar what happened in game 3? He beat a Zerg on Daedalus... TWICE
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On February 05 2014 23:28 Wingblade wrote:
Raaain! I missed the final match with Solar what happened in game 3? He beat a Zerg on Daedalus... TWICE
He held a massive skyzerg army and countered once he got everything he needed (archons, colossis, and around 20 phenix with range upgrade). He also denied a lot the Solar's 5th base with zealots runbys.
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On February 05 2014 23:28 Wingblade wrote:
Raaain! I missed the final match with Solar what happened in game 3? He beat a Zerg on Daedalus... TWICE
He played really well=].
And I'd say Solar ehm.. let's just say, fucked up tremendously, both games on Daedalus ;p. Although the second time Rain just played it out very well.
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France9034 Posts
On February 05 2014 23:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 22:38 IcemanAsi wrote:On February 05 2014 22:37 Ragnarork wrote:On February 05 2014 22:35 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:33 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:30 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:24 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:21 Heartland wrote:
00.00 daedalus which protoss whined into becoming another unbalanced map. Protoss in upper left and Zerg in lower right.
2.00 Gate expand from Rain and another hatch first.
3.10 Macro opening with another three hatch before pool
3.35 Zealot coming out across the map to exert pressure and probably kill Solar
3.51 Nexus started from toss, so equal eco with chrono boost
4.19 The zealot stays at home for some reason
4.40 Tastosis are going to get stupid facial hair. Still more interesting than ZvStupid
5.25 Great macro again from Solar but it hasn't mattered for like two games in a row. You gotta basically macro double as good as Zerg
6.02 Phoenix coming out and two gates finishing 6.50 Three toss units moving out across the map and the whole Zerg army has to retreat SIGH 7.15 Zealots trading really well against lings but finally get cleaned up 8.00 Phoenix in Zerg base 9.00 Coloss coming out for Rain. Solar trying to hang on with Roach Warren, double evo and macro hatch 10.00 +1 halfway done for Protoss. Twelve workers killed by unkillable phoenix that a bronze player can micro 10.40 Infestation Pit and Spire for Solar, really clever 11.00 Lings attacking a third for Protoss but get warded away by like five units and an msc. 11.30 Protoss being greedy and getting tech all over 13.00 Corruptor/ling out and dancing around third but can't engage ofc 14.00 Mutas out and gonna attack the Protoss main as the phoenix are out of position 14.42 Fifth base for Zerg up and running 15.25 Zerg tries to attack the Protoss army but can they do anything?? 15.50 Protoss takes down the fifth with zealot runby even though zerg has map control lol 16.13 Still phoenix around but colossus and VR's are dead but it doesn't matter really 16.33 Another zerg attack 16.43 A lot of lings running into the main and nat 17.08 All the lings die more or less automatically 18.00 Three-base toss beating five base zerg haha, I am not gonna watch gsl anymore if Zerg loses this 18.24 This would never happen in starbow but blizzard doesn't care 18.50 Phoenix are hunting down corruptors. HMM, aren't they supposed to be hard counter? 20.00 Trying to switch into SH which was really the only chance 20.21 Rain is killing the fifth 20.35 protoss takes a fourth FINALLY 22.06 Phoenix killing all the SH with their lifts, haha, I can't even look at this anymore 22.30 Like a hundred lings tries to deny the protoss fourth but just warp in and a-move 23.11 Phoenix still killing colossus. Protoss has a supply lead. 24.06 Even overpaid casters are laughing at the game now 24.33 Fifth dies AGAIN to zealot runbys 25.33 Protoss moving in. Lifts all the SHs 25.40 this is disgusting. No wonder idra quit. TWO PROTOSS MOVES ON ARE YOU READY FOR ALL PVP GSL SEASON RO16? LOL! I can't stress enough how awesome this is. Thanks for this LR :D Awesome LR ! Thanks! I don't know what's awesome about this, it's just balance whining from begining to the end. Yes, it's mildly funny, but that doesn't change the stupidy of the message.
There no balance whine in this, this is called sarcasm, and is based on the fact that protoss is considered a bit too strong at the moment (a position that Blizzard supports, as shown in the patch they're currently working on).
If you don't laugh, fine, just move on, rather than calling it out "stupid". Not your humour, fine, leave those who laugh in peace.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
On February 05 2014 23:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 22:38 IcemanAsi wrote:On February 05 2014 22:37 Ragnarork wrote:On February 05 2014 22:35 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:33 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:30 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:24 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:21 Heartland wrote:
00.00 daedalus which protoss whined into becoming another unbalanced map. Protoss in upper left and Zerg in lower right.
2.00 Gate expand from Rain and another hatch first.
3.10 Macro opening with another three hatch before pool
3.35 Zealot coming out across the map to exert pressure and probably kill Solar
3.51 Nexus started from toss, so equal eco with chrono boost
4.19 The zealot stays at home for some reason
4.40 Tastosis are going to get stupid facial hair. Still more interesting than ZvStupid
5.25 Great macro again from Solar but it hasn't mattered for like two games in a row. You gotta basically macro double as good as Zerg
6.02 Phoenix coming out and two gates finishing 6.50 Three toss units moving out across the map and the whole Zerg army has to retreat SIGH 7.15 Zealots trading really well against lings but finally get cleaned up 8.00 Phoenix in Zerg base 9.00 Coloss coming out for Rain. Solar trying to hang on with Roach Warren, double evo and macro hatch 10.00 +1 halfway done for Protoss. Twelve workers killed by unkillable phoenix that a bronze player can micro 10.40 Infestation Pit and Spire for Solar, really clever 11.00 Lings attacking a third for Protoss but get warded away by like five units and an msc. 11.30 Protoss being greedy and getting tech all over 13.00 Corruptor/ling out and dancing around third but can't engage ofc 14.00 Mutas out and gonna attack the Protoss main as the phoenix are out of position 14.42 Fifth base for Zerg up and running 15.25 Zerg tries to attack the Protoss army but can they do anything?? 15.50 Protoss takes down the fifth with zealot runby even though zerg has map control lol 16.13 Still phoenix around but colossus and VR's are dead but it doesn't matter really 16.33 Another zerg attack 16.43 A lot of lings running into the main and nat 17.08 All the lings die more or less automatically 18.00 Three-base toss beating five base zerg haha, I am not gonna watch gsl anymore if Zerg loses this 18.24 This would never happen in starbow but blizzard doesn't care 18.50 Phoenix are hunting down corruptors. HMM, aren't they supposed to be hard counter? 20.00 Trying to switch into SH which was really the only chance 20.21 Rain is killing the fifth 20.35 protoss takes a fourth FINALLY 22.06 Phoenix killing all the SH with their lifts, haha, I can't even look at this anymore 22.30 Like a hundred lings tries to deny the protoss fourth but just warp in and a-move 23.11 Phoenix still killing colossus. Protoss has a supply lead. 24.06 Even overpaid casters are laughing at the game now 24.33 Fifth dies AGAIN to zealot runbys 25.33 Protoss moving in. Lifts all the SHs 25.40 this is disgusting. No wonder idra quit. TWO PROTOSS MOVES ON ARE YOU READY FOR ALL PVP GSL SEASON RO16? LOL! I can't stress enough how awesome this is. Thanks for this LR :D Awesome LR ! Thanks! I don't know what's awesome about this, it's just balance whining from begining to the end. Yes, it's mildly funny, but that doesn't change the stupidy of the message.
A bit harsh, I got turned off it when he started insulting the casters but the rest of it was ok
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Betting on Protoss is my only Liquibet heuristics this season. Hoping it carries me far, even if 80% of TL does the same!
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On February 05 2014 23:36 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 23:23 opisska wrote:On February 05 2014 22:38 IcemanAsi wrote:On February 05 2014 22:37 Ragnarork wrote:On February 05 2014 22:35 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:33 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:30 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:24 Heartland wrote:On February 05 2014 22:21 Heartland wrote:
00.00 daedalus which protoss whined into becoming another unbalanced map. Protoss in upper left and Zerg in lower right.
2.00 Gate expand from Rain and another hatch first.
3.10 Macro opening with another three hatch before pool
3.35 Zealot coming out across the map to exert pressure and probably kill Solar
3.51 Nexus started from toss, so equal eco with chrono boost
4.19 The zealot stays at home for some reason
4.40 Tastosis are going to get stupid facial hair. Still more interesting than ZvStupid
5.25 Great macro again from Solar but it hasn't mattered for like two games in a row. You gotta basically macro double as good as Zerg
6.02 Phoenix coming out and two gates finishing 6.50 Three toss units moving out across the map and the whole Zerg army has to retreat SIGH 7.15 Zealots trading really well against lings but finally get cleaned up 8.00 Phoenix in Zerg base 9.00 Coloss coming out for Rain. Solar trying to hang on with Roach Warren, double evo and macro hatch 10.00 +1 halfway done for Protoss. Twelve workers killed by unkillable phoenix that a bronze player can micro 10.40 Infestation Pit and Spire for Solar, really clever 11.00 Lings attacking a third for Protoss but get warded away by like five units and an msc. 11.30 Protoss being greedy and getting tech all over 13.00 Corruptor/ling out and dancing around third but can't engage ofc 14.00 Mutas out and gonna attack the Protoss main as the phoenix are out of position 14.42 Fifth base for Zerg up and running 15.25 Zerg tries to attack the Protoss army but can they do anything?? 15.50 Protoss takes down the fifth with zealot runby even though zerg has map control lol 16.13 Still phoenix around but colossus and VR's are dead but it doesn't matter really 16.33 Another zerg attack 16.43 A lot of lings running into the main and nat 17.08 All the lings die more or less automatically 18.00 Three-base toss beating five base zerg haha, I am not gonna watch gsl anymore if Zerg loses this 18.24 This would never happen in starbow but blizzard doesn't care 18.50 Phoenix are hunting down corruptors. HMM, aren't they supposed to be hard counter? 20.00 Trying to switch into SH which was really the only chance 20.21 Rain is killing the fifth 20.35 protoss takes a fourth FINALLY 22.06 Phoenix killing all the SH with their lifts, haha, I can't even look at this anymore 22.30 Like a hundred lings tries to deny the protoss fourth but just warp in and a-move 23.11 Phoenix still killing colossus. Protoss has a supply lead. 24.06 Even overpaid casters are laughing at the game now 24.33 Fifth dies AGAIN to zealot runbys 25.33 Protoss moving in. Lifts all the SHs 25.40 this is disgusting. No wonder idra quit. TWO PROTOSS MOVES ON ARE YOU READY FOR ALL PVP GSL SEASON RO16? LOL! I can't stress enough how awesome this is. Thanks for this LR :D Awesome LR ! Thanks! I don't know what's awesome about this, it's just balance whining from begining to the end. Yes, it's mildly funny, but that doesn't change the stupidy of the message. There no balance whine in this, this is called sarcasm, and is based on the fact that protoss is considered a bit too strong at the moment (a position that Blizzard supports, as shown in the patch they're currently working on). If you don't laugh, fine, just move on, rather than calling it out "stupid". Not your humour, fine, leave those who laugh in peace.
He's serving as a live reporter, not caster or commentator, similar to Seeker's translation, always like to sneak in his own stuff, very annoying.
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On February 05 2014 23:31 Twine wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 23:28 Wingblade wrote:
Raaain! I missed the final match with Solar what happened in game 3? He beat a Zerg on Daedalus... TWICE He held a massive skyzerg army and countered once he got everything he needed (archons, colossis, and around 20 phenix with range upgrade). He also denied a lot the Solar's 5th base with zealots runbys.
Ah ok thank you! I caught the first game which seemed really straight forward but I went back to sleep after the Winners Match. It looks like this shorter ramp is helping extend these games now and giving Toss at least some chance. And from what I saw the first game, Solars style doesn fit Daedalus well Zerg greed is less useful becaus of how aggressive you can be.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
DRG  ((
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