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How many Terrans in Code S if one Terran won his group ?
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On January 24 2014 20:19 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 20:19 Schelim wrote:
this GSL needs a TvT finals for the luls SuperNova vs Maru. Both have made Ro8++ last year. Could happen actually, but very unlikely
SuNo has so little chance to reach the final and Maru will need good zerg dodging skills I think
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On January 24 2014 20:20 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 20:19 Lorning wrote:On January 24 2014 20:19 Schelim wrote:
this GSL needs a TvT finals for the luls SuperNova vs Maru. Both have made Ro8++ last year. Could happen actually, but very unlikely if Supernova only gets Z and Maru only gets P all the way to the final then maybe it is possible
100% T in finals --> bunker build time increased by 5 seconds
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On January 24 2014 19:58 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:On January 24 2014 19:54 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 19:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Mutas are retarded, as long as they stay the way they are there will be almost no terran that wins with bio vs zerg -.-
And that comes from a zerg player (though it is not really important, everybody can see this i think^^)
i wonder how the MU would play out if widow mines activated faster? the overseer speed buff, while great, made widow mines really pathetic against mutas. with the reduced blast damage i think faster mines might keep the matchup interesting. not sure exactly how it would change mine dragging/mine spread or if it would buff zerg on the ground... zerg needs mutas but i definitely see how the huge balls can be a problem for any terran who falls even slightly behind tvz was perfectly balanced until they nerfed widowmines for god knows what reason winrates favored terran and bio mine camping a choke point outside a 4th base was ridiculous. pre-nerf mines are not the way to fix the matchup again, that would be a terrible regression. 3/3 alone means bio mine is still fine against ling bling on the ground, but mutas are a bigger problem now as terrans have observed.
I liked hellbats before nerf, except in TvT.
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On January 24 2014 20:18 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 20:16 Creager wrote:On January 24 2014 20:15 Undead1993 wrote:On January 24 2014 20:14 Creager wrote:
GSL on twitch has been so disappointing so far, I mean, I payed 20 bucks and I only get "high" quality, VOD section sucks and you are affected by slomo chat mode as subscriber... maybe that teaches you to think before spending money Has nothing to do with thinking, have bought GSL tickets in the past before and always was pleased with the provided content. hmm not sure, because people has been saying that the gslexp lacks quality for the last week, other than that it's just not the right place to write this, contact the service on gomexp and complain there.
Yeah just because somewhere people have been saying stuff doesn't mean it's true or justified, but I guess you're right with contacting GOM for complaints, so sorry about that.
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On January 24 2014 20:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 20:18 NovaMB wrote:On January 24 2014 20:16 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
If living in europe
then twitch sucks
else its ok
end I never had problems with twitch. Maybe I'm the chosen one or something I also dont get it, i have major problems with all streams basicaly. Sometimes even TakeTV lags on medium when only like 8k people are watching 
Maybe my ISP is like perfect for twitch, dunno. I've been using en.twitch.tv for about a year and the only lags I get is when my ISP shits the bed.
Its sad that they cant handle all traffic, even with the new video system which was supposed to allow 50% more traffic
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On January 24 2014 20:20 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 20:19 sAsImre wrote:On January 24 2014 20:13 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 20:08 sAsImre wrote:On January 24 2014 20:06 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 20:05 Glorfindel! wrote:On January 24 2014 20:04 bo1b wrote:On January 24 2014 20:03 Glorfindel! wrote:On January 24 2014 20:01 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 19:59 Glorfindel! wrote:
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Sources on this?
Its quite easy to write "win rates favoured Terran" but I remember the win rates as being 50%, I am not sure though. Would be nice if you provided statistics. the source is my memory, i don't care to prove it or argue it because the actual point i was making was in the words i typed, not the statistic as i remember it... going back to bio mine in choke points pre-nerf would be enough to make me switch to protoss lol Well that is a great source.. Ehhh. He's kind of right though, when a few mines were set up in a choke point it became insanely hard to break out as zerg I am not arguing about that at all. Im just saying that claiming that "win rates favoured Terran" and then saying "I dont have sources, just my head" is a bit weird way to argue. what do you want me to do? i answered honestly. i don't have a source. i might be wrong. should i delete all my posts because i made a comment based on memory? i don't keep liquipedia tabs open 24/7 in case i get into a discussion on the forums... don't throw winrates out of the window so... I think everyone would agree that the push on the 4th on akilon was ridiculous ie. i made a comment based on memory. i thought i was right. maybe i'm wrong, if i'm wrong then feel free to post your own source. beyond that i don't really care... this argument is kinda pointless, it's not even about starcraft, it's just people trying to make me admit i'm wrong o_O which is kinda weird http://aligulac.com/reports/hellbat nerf is the 9th of july and overseer buff late august/early september iirc. well, congrats! i still think the same thing i thought before about pre-nerf mines  but good on you for digging up the data
Aligulac does it well nowadays, no need to compile tons of data (well there are aligulac drawbacks, players skill is certainly not factored out but still sthg that you can understand :p). Anyway if I were a Z considering the mech trend I would soon regret pre nerf wm :p
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omg wolf whining. Ban him plz
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On January 24 2014 20:21 Aeromi wrote:
How many Terrans in Code S if one Terran won his group ?
4, no idea what happens to jjakjis slot
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On January 24 2014 20:22 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 19:58 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:On January 24 2014 19:54 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 19:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Mutas are retarded, as long as they stay the way they are there will be almost no terran that wins with bio vs zerg -.-
And that comes from a zerg player (though it is not really important, everybody can see this i think^^)
i wonder how the MU would play out if widow mines activated faster? the overseer speed buff, while great, made widow mines really pathetic against mutas. with the reduced blast damage i think faster mines might keep the matchup interesting. not sure exactly how it would change mine dragging/mine spread or if it would buff zerg on the ground... zerg needs mutas but i definitely see how the huge balls can be a problem for any terran who falls even slightly behind tvz was perfectly balanced until they nerfed widowmines for god knows what reason winrates favored terran and bio mine camping a choke point outside a 4th base was ridiculous. pre-nerf mines are not the way to fix the matchup again, that would be a terrible regression. 3/3 alone means bio mine is still fine against ling bling on the ground, but mutas are a bigger problem now as terrans have observed. I liked hellbats before nerf, except in TvT.
they were broken vZ too. Makes you safe vs every all in and the risk/reward ratio is sooooooo screwed. Even if the Z defends it blindly you can easily get ahead.
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On January 24 2014 20:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 20:18 NovaMB wrote:On January 24 2014 20:16 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
If living in europe
then twitch sucks
else its ok
end I never had problems with twitch. Maybe I'm the chosen one or something I also dont get it, i have major problems with all streams basicaly. Sometimes even TakeTV lags on medium when only like 8k people are watching
the frustrating thing is when people try to say it's all a conspiracy theory and it's just the viewer's internet lagging... so many people from so many different areas have universally complained about twitch stuttering and lagging on high volume streams that it's ridiculous to deny there are problems with the service. i know how to tell whether my net is lagging and i know how much bandwidth i have. if i can load youtube in HD but i can't watch twitch in mobile, something is wrong >_<
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On January 24 2014 20:22 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 20:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 24 2014 20:18 NovaMB wrote:On January 24 2014 20:16 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
If living in europe
then twitch sucks
else its ok
end I never had problems with twitch. Maybe I'm the chosen one or something I also dont get it, i have major problems with all streams basicaly. Sometimes even TakeTV lags on medium when only like 8k people are watching Maybe my ISP is like perfect for twitch, dunno. I've been using en.twitch.tv for about a year and the only lags I get is when my ISP shits the bed. Its sad that they cant handle all traffic, even with the new video system which was supposed to allow 50% more traffic
I havent tried the en thing yet, but at least i can use you tube when watching gsl and SPL, so no biggie i guess.
@Waise: It sucks imo, saying the ISP is at fault is just lying.
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On January 24 2014 20:22 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 19:58 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:On January 24 2014 19:54 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 19:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Mutas are retarded, as long as they stay the way they are there will be almost no terran that wins with bio vs zerg -.-
And that comes from a zerg player (though it is not really important, everybody can see this i think^^)
i wonder how the MU would play out if widow mines activated faster? the overseer speed buff, while great, made widow mines really pathetic against mutas. with the reduced blast damage i think faster mines might keep the matchup interesting. not sure exactly how it would change mine dragging/mine spread or if it would buff zerg on the ground... zerg needs mutas but i definitely see how the huge balls can be a problem for any terran who falls even slightly behind tvz was perfectly balanced until they nerfed widowmines for god knows what reason winrates favored terran and bio mine camping a choke point outside a 4th base was ridiculous. pre-nerf mines are not the way to fix the matchup again, that would be a terrible regression. 3/3 alone means bio mine is still fine against ling bling on the ground, but mutas are a bigger problem now as terrans have observed. I liked hellbats before nerf, except in TvT.
i miss hellbats tbh nothing feels more chobo than dying to mass marine
stutta stutta stutta
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On January 24 2014 20:22 Fjodorov wrote:
omg wolf whining. Ban him plz
10% of salary to prize pool
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wait a second, what happens to jjakji's code s spot? Who will get it, do we know?
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On January 24 2014 20:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
wait a second, what happens to jjakji's code s spot? Who will get it, do we know?
make a single elim tournament with everyone eliminated in code A <3
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On January 24 2014 20:22 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 19:58 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 19:56 bo1b wrote:On January 24 2014 19:54 Waise wrote:On January 24 2014 19:51 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Mutas are retarded, as long as they stay the way they are there will be almost no terran that wins with bio vs zerg -.-
And that comes from a zerg player (though it is not really important, everybody can see this i think^^)
i wonder how the MU would play out if widow mines activated faster? the overseer speed buff, while great, made widow mines really pathetic against mutas. with the reduced blast damage i think faster mines might keep the matchup interesting. not sure exactly how it would change mine dragging/mine spread or if it would buff zerg on the ground... zerg needs mutas but i definitely see how the huge balls can be a problem for any terran who falls even slightly behind tvz was perfectly balanced until they nerfed widowmines for god knows what reason winrates favored terran and bio mine camping a choke point outside a 4th base was ridiculous. pre-nerf mines are not the way to fix the matchup again, that would be a terrible regression. 3/3 alone means bio mine is still fine against ling bling on the ground, but mutas are a bigger problem now as terrans have observed. I liked hellbats before nerf, except in TvT.
You never played zvt vs hellbats did you?
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On January 24 2014 20:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
wait a second, what happens to jjakji's code s spot? Who will get it, do we know?
No announcement yet. IMO they should give it to the player with most victories in last season of Proleague.
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Maru will most probably wreck any protoss in his way, but hopefully he dodges zergs in his gsl run.
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