On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote: I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.
please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech? Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.
Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future
Why is that? Zergs adapting or the WM nerf? Or maybe a bit of both?
They continue to nerf terran into the ground, despite terran struggling at every level.
When the Korean terrans start failing, you know all other terrans are already fucked.
Why did terran players dissappear and this game die? I wonder..
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
Ryung
(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)
On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost. Joking.
Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s
Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.
Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?
Starbow is going to be the new sc2 because it's a million hundred thousand times better than sc2.
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote: I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.
please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech? Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.
Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future
Why is that? Zergs adapting or the WM nerf? Or maybe a bit of both?
The nerf was quite massive. (old WM could kill 35 banes when stacked perfectly)
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
Ryung
(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)
On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost. Joking.
Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s
Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.
Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?
They've played it already at Axiom (TB commented a game between Ryung and Impact), so, dunno, maybe they liked it?
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
Ryung
(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)
On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost. Joking.
Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s
Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.
Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?
Starbow is going to be the new sc2 because it's a million hundred thousand times better than sc2.
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
Ryung
(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)
On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost. Joking.
Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s
Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.
Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?
They've played it already at Axiom (TB commented a game between Ryung and Impact), so, dunno, maybe they liked it?
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
On January 24 2014 18:43 AnonymousSC2 wrote: Game 3 Dream vs Hydra they were even base the whole game basically. How is Zerg winning so easily? Is Bio even viable anymore?
Hydra didn't deserve that at all. Give Terrans a break, blizzard.
LOL are you kidding me? Dream let hydra stomp him by doing literally nothing to stop his harass. 1 bunker and 0 turrets? lmao... Hydra didn't play at a high level, but Dream played like a huge noob. Maybe you can say "hydra doesn't deserve Code S", but you sure as hell can NOT say that hydra didn't deserve that win, nor can you even begin to talk about balance. Did you even watch the game???
Yes. You're just a Zerg player.
4M takes terran player outplaying Zerg by at least 3 fold to have a chance. Fact.
Good thing Terran can play Bio-Mech or Mech then eh?
No, Terran can only play Mech. What is bio-mech in your mind? Marine-Tank is terrible. Last time we saw that was WOL ?
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
Ryung
(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)
On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost. Joking.
Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s
Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.
Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?
Starbow is going to be the new sc2 because it's a million hundred thousand times better than sc2.
Say people who are like Jon Snow.
..bastards?
Only pure blood gives you the right to enjoy Starbow.
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote: I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.
please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech? Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.
Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future
Why is that? Zergs adapting or the WM nerf? Or maybe a bit of both?
I think zergs have become very good in the matchup, and they are know exactly what to expect from WM and can control engagements better. Also, WM nerf made it so that if you have a supply lead you can pretty much run over the terran and just disregard the WM. Also, mech with the hellion banshee opener has a nice transition flow and gives the terran a better control of the game and a good tool to force the zerg to me more active and reactive before the 10 min mark
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote: I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.
please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech? Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.
Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future
I don't really think bio is weak or unpopular... I just think Dream played like he was in Gold division.
Bio is still very viable. Build 2 turrets next to that bunker and Dream would have held that 3rd without having to pull workers or pull his army, then easily take a 4th. Could even put a single widow mine close by to scare/cripple the mutas even further.
It's not about bio being weak, it's about Terran players playing very stupid games, or playing good games but losing to situations or being outplayed by currently better ZvTers or lucky Zergs. You can't go from bio being extremely good to bio no longer being viable without even having a major patch to force such a change.
Mech is just cool and being are finally finding out how to play it, so they are starting to use it more often.
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
Ryung
(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)
On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost. Joking.
Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s
Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.
Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?
They've played it already at Axiom (TB commented a game between Ryung and Impact), so, dunno, maybe they liked it?
Oh, ok, I get you now.
I strongly suggest you check it out. Really cool game (though obviously they don't master it, of course) :
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
On January 24 2014 18:43 AnonymousSC2 wrote: Game 3 Dream vs Hydra they were even base the whole game basically. How is Zerg winning so easily? Is Bio even viable anymore?
Hydra didn't deserve that at all. Give Terrans a break, blizzard.
LOL are you kidding me? Dream let hydra stomp him by doing literally nothing to stop his harass. 1 bunker and 0 turrets? lmao... Hydra didn't play at a high level, but Dream played like a huge noob. Maybe you can say "hydra doesn't deserve Code S", but you sure as hell can NOT say that hydra didn't deserve that win, nor can you even begin to talk about balance. Did you even watch the game???
Yes. You're just a Zerg player.
4M takes terran player outplaying Zerg by at least 3 fold to have a chance. Fact.
Good thing Terran can play Bio-Mech or Mech then eh?
No, Terran can only play Mech. What is bio-mech in your mind? Marine-Tank is terrible. Last time we saw that was WOL ?
Could you drop it please? Even in the mad marine fan club they'd find it annoying...
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote: I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series. I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!
On January 24 2014 18:43 AnonymousSC2 wrote: Game 3 Dream vs Hydra they were even base the whole game basically. How is Zerg winning so easily? Is Bio even viable anymore?
Hydra didn't deserve that at all. Give Terrans a break, blizzard.
LOL are you kidding me? Dream let hydra stomp him by doing literally nothing to stop his harass. 1 bunker and 0 turrets? lmao... Hydra didn't play at a high level, but Dream played like a huge noob. Maybe you can say "hydra doesn't deserve Code S", but you sure as hell can NOT say that hydra didn't deserve that win, nor can you even begin to talk about balance. Did you even watch the game???
Yes. You're just a Zerg player.
4M takes terran player outplaying Zerg by at least 3 fold to have a chance. Fact.
Good thing Terran can play Bio-Mech or Mech then eh?
No, Terran can only play Mech. What is bio-mech in your mind? Marine-Tank is terrible. Last time we saw that was WOL ?
Could you drop it please? Even in the mad marine fan club they'd find it annoying...
Not before a proper free-speech and TL bias tantrum.
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote: I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.
please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech? Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.
Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future
Why is that? Zergs adapting or the WM nerf? Or maybe a bit of both?
I think zergs have become very good in the matchup, and they are know exactly what to expect from WM and can control engagements better. Also, WM nerf made it so that if you have a supply lead you can pretty much run over the terran and just disregard the WM. Also, mech with the hellion banshee opener has a nice transition flow and gives the terran a better control of the game and a good tool to force the zerg to me more active and reactive before the 10 min mark
This is similar to Protoss's argument. Every protoss happens to have their best matchup as P v T. Now every Zerg's best matchup is Z v T? Come on. Give me a break. Try terran guys, you will see the ridiculousness
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