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AnonymousSC2
Profile Joined January 2014
United States189 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 09:55:02
January 24 2014 09:54 GMT
#181
On January 24 2014 18:53 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:48 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 VKCA wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.

please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why
maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech?
Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.


Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future


Why is that? Zergs adapting or the WM nerf? Or maybe a bit of both?


They continue to nerf terran into the ground, despite terran struggling at every level.

When the Korean terrans start failing, you know all other terrans are already fucked.

Why did terran players dissappear and this game die? I wonder..
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 24 2014 09:54 GMT
#182
On January 24 2014 18:54 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:52 aZealot wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!


Ryung

(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)

On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost.
Joking.

Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s


Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.


Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?


Starbow is going to be the new sc2 because it's a million hundred thousand times better than sc2.

Say people who are like Jon Snow.


..bastards?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 09:55:50
January 24 2014 09:54 GMT
#183
On January 24 2014 18:53 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:48 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 VKCA wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.

please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why
maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech?
Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.


Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future


Why is that? Zergs adapting or the WM nerf? Or maybe a bit of both?

The nerf was quite massive. (old WM could kill 35 banes when stacked perfectly)
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 24 2014 09:55 GMT
#184
I've overtaken all of Zealously's snarkiness. I have collected his essence and become more powerful than you can ever imagine!
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
January 24 2014 09:55 GMT
#185
On January 24 2014 18:54 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:52 aZealot wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!


Ryung

(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)

On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost.
Joking.

Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s


Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.


Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?


They've played it already at Axiom (TB commented a game between Ryung and Impact), so, dunno, maybe they liked it?


Liking a game doesn't put food on the table.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 24 2014 09:55 GMT
#186
On January 24 2014 18:54 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:54 Heartland wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:52 aZealot wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!


Ryung

(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)

On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost.
Joking.

Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s


Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.


Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?


Starbow is going to be the new sc2 because it's a million hundred thousand times better than sc2.

Say people who are like Jon Snow.


..bastards?


Cool guys on walls in black clothes
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
January 24 2014 09:55 GMT
#187
On January 24 2014 18:54 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:52 aZealot wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!


Ryung

(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)

On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost.
Joking.

Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s


Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.


Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?


They've played it already at Axiom (TB commented a game between Ryung and Impact), so, dunno, maybe they liked it?


Oh, ok, I get you now.
KT best KT ~ 2014
AnonymousSC2
Profile Joined January 2014
United States189 Posts
January 24 2014 09:56 GMT
#188
On January 24 2014 18:53 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:50 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!

On January 24 2014 18:43 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Game 3 Dream vs Hydra they were even base the whole game basically. How is Zerg winning so easily? Is Bio even viable anymore?

Hydra didn't deserve that at all. Give Terrans a break, blizzard.

LOL are you kidding me? Dream let hydra stomp him by doing literally nothing to stop his harass.
1 bunker and 0 turrets? lmao... Hydra didn't play at a high level, but Dream played like a huge noob.
Maybe you can say "hydra doesn't deserve Code S", but you sure as hell can NOT say that hydra didn't deserve that win, nor can you even begin to talk about balance.
Did you even watch the game???


Yes. You're just a Zerg player.

4M takes terran player outplaying Zerg by at least 3 fold to have a chance. Fact.


Good thing Terran can play Bio-Mech or Mech then eh?


No, Terran can only play Mech. What is bio-mech in your mind? Marine-Tank is terrible. Last time we saw that was WOL ?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 24 2014 09:56 GMT
#189
On January 24 2014 18:54 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:54 Heartland wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:52 aZealot wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!


Ryung

(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)

On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost.
Joking.

Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s


Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.


Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?


Starbow is going to be the new sc2 because it's a million hundred thousand times better than sc2.

Say people who are like Jon Snow.


..bastards?


Only pure blood gives you the right to enjoy Starbow.
LiquipediaWanderer
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 24 2014 09:56 GMT
#190
On January 24 2014 18:53 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:48 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 VKCA wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.

please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why
maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech?
Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.


Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future


Why is that? Zergs adapting or the WM nerf? Or maybe a bit of both?


I think zergs have become very good in the matchup, and they are know exactly what to expect from WM and can control engagements better. Also, WM nerf made it so that if you have a supply lead you can pretty much run over the terran and just disregard the WM. Also, mech with the hellion banshee opener has a nice transition flow and gives the terran a better control of the game and a good tool to force the zerg to me more active and reactive before the 10 min mark
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
January 24 2014 09:56 GMT
#191
On January 24 2014 18:48 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:46 VKCA wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.

please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why
maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech?
Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.


Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future

I don't really think bio is weak or unpopular... I just think Dream played like he was in Gold division.

Bio is still very viable. Build 2 turrets next to that bunker and Dream would have held that 3rd without having to pull workers or pull his army, then easily take a 4th. Could even put a single widow mine close by to scare/cripple the mutas even further.

It's not about bio being weak, it's about Terran players playing very stupid games, or playing good games but losing to situations or being outplayed by currently better ZvTers or lucky Zergs.
You can't go from bio being extremely good to bio no longer being viable without even having a major patch to force such a change.

Mech is just cool and being are finally finding out how to play it, so they are starting to use it more often.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 24 2014 09:56 GMT
#192
On January 24 2014 18:53 Shellshock wrote:
[Code A] Group K GSL S1 2014
[image loading] (T)Ryung vs. [image loading] (Z)TRUE
Game 1
Map: Frost

0:00
Ryung spawns in the bottom right
TRUE spawns in the top right

2:00
hatch first for TRUE
CC first on the low ground for Ryung
pool for TRUE
overlord scouts CC first
rax for Ryung

3:00
gas for Ryung
3rd base for TRUE
gas for TRUE
bunker in the natural for Ryung

4:00
Factory for Ryung
2nd gas for Ryung
reactor for Ryung

5:00
ling speed for TRUE
Starport for Ryung
tech lab for Ryung
reactored hellion production for Ryung
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 24 2014 09:57 GMT
#193
On January 24 2014 18:55 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:54 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:52 aZealot wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 Ragnarork wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!


Ryung

(Oh well, if he loses and switch to Starbow, I'm totally okay with that <3)

On January 24 2014 18:45 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Waiting for "protoss op" as a reason that Dream lost.
Joking.

Seriously tho, I hope he goes through to Code s


Hydra abusing Yeonsu like a true proto---- wait.


Huh? Why would Ryung play Starbow if he loses?


They've played it already at Axiom (TB commented a game between Ryung and Impact), so, dunno, maybe they liked it?


Oh, ok, I get you now.


I strongly suggest you check it out. Really cool game (though obviously they don't master it, of course) :

LiquipediaWanderer
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 24 2014 09:58 GMT
#194
These are ok parade spawns. Lets the do it Ryung!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 24 2014 09:58 GMT
#195
On January 24 2014 18:56 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:53 Caihead wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:50 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!

On January 24 2014 18:43 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Game 3 Dream vs Hydra they were even base the whole game basically. How is Zerg winning so easily? Is Bio even viable anymore?

Hydra didn't deserve that at all. Give Terrans a break, blizzard.

LOL are you kidding me? Dream let hydra stomp him by doing literally nothing to stop his harass.
1 bunker and 0 turrets? lmao... Hydra didn't play at a high level, but Dream played like a huge noob.
Maybe you can say "hydra doesn't deserve Code S", but you sure as hell can NOT say that hydra didn't deserve that win, nor can you even begin to talk about balance.
Did you even watch the game???


Yes. You're just a Zerg player.

4M takes terran player outplaying Zerg by at least 3 fold to have a chance. Fact.


Good thing Terran can play Bio-Mech or Mech then eh?


No, Terran can only play Mech. What is bio-mech in your mind? Marine-Tank is terrible. Last time we saw that was WOL ?


Could you drop it please? Even in the mad marine fan club they'd find it annoying...
LiquipediaWanderer
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 24 2014 09:59 GMT
#196
i kinda hate the ebay positioning.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
January 24 2014 09:59 GMT
#197
I always feel bad for zerg defending against this opening. Ling baneling and queens seems so flimsy.
KTY
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
January 24 2014 09:59 GMT
#198
On January 24 2014 18:58 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:56 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:53 Caihead wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:50 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:45 Shinta) wrote:
I don't want Ryung to advance today, but I don't want hydra or dream to advance after watching that series.
I guess I'll be rooting for TRUE hydra!

On January 24 2014 18:43 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Game 3 Dream vs Hydra they were even base the whole game basically. How is Zerg winning so easily? Is Bio even viable anymore?

Hydra didn't deserve that at all. Give Terrans a break, blizzard.

LOL are you kidding me? Dream let hydra stomp him by doing literally nothing to stop his harass.
1 bunker and 0 turrets? lmao... Hydra didn't play at a high level, but Dream played like a huge noob.
Maybe you can say "hydra doesn't deserve Code S", but you sure as hell can NOT say that hydra didn't deserve that win, nor can you even begin to talk about balance.
Did you even watch the game???


Yes. You're just a Zerg player.

4M takes terran player outplaying Zerg by at least 3 fold to have a chance. Fact.


Good thing Terran can play Bio-Mech or Mech then eh?


No, Terran can only play Mech. What is bio-mech in your mind? Marine-Tank is terrible. Last time we saw that was WOL ?


Could you drop it please? Even in the mad marine fan club they'd find it annoying...


Not before a proper free-speech and TL bias tantrum.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 24 2014 09:59 GMT
#199
Ouch, I don't think that was cost-efficient...
LiquipediaWanderer
AnonymousSC2
Profile Joined January 2014
United States189 Posts
January 24 2014 09:59 GMT
#200
On January 24 2014 18:56 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 18:53 aZealot wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:48 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:46 VKCA wrote:
On January 24 2014 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m all for Terrans advancing, but at this point, I´m actually fine with Ryung and True.

please let this happen... Hydra has played some very nice games in sc2 and particularly since hots release, but holy shit man those games were not alright. dream why
maybe bio is loosing all the time against zerg now on the korean ladder and that's why there's been so much mech?
Haven't seen the parade push 4m style kill anybody in a while though.


Yeah Bio+WM seems dead atleast. Ive seen a couple of korean try Bio, Maru one of them, most of them have gone with hellbats instead of WM. Didnt work out in those particular matches though. I dont think we will see much bio play in TvZ in the future


Why is that? Zergs adapting or the WM nerf? Or maybe a bit of both?


I think zergs have become very good in the matchup, and they are know exactly what to expect from WM and can control engagements better. Also, WM nerf made it so that if you have a supply lead you can pretty much run over the terran and just disregard the WM. Also, mech with the hellion banshee opener has a nice transition flow and gives the terran a better control of the game and a good tool to force the zerg to me more active and reactive before the 10 min mark


This is similar to Protoss's argument. Every protoss happens to have their best matchup as P v T. Now every Zerg's best matchup is Z v T? Come on. Give me a break. Try terran guys, you will see the ridiculousness
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