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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On January 23 2014 14:59 BigFan wrote: best part was when he recalled the carriers and the interceptors traveled half the map to get back to the carriers rofl Awesome. Mama Carrier, I'm coming home! Alright, looks like they will get some money from me. I can't not watch these games and this series. :D | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
hmm so fly a carrier into a base with MSc then recall and the interceptors will scout the base, truly next level scouting!  I guess you can say they ... retreated | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On January 23 2014 14:56 Loccstana wrote: So vikings lose to carriers, voidrays, phoenix, tempest, basically every single Protoss airunit? As they should. Vikings are a long range anti siege unit. (but vikings do kinda well vs tempest) Not a air superiority unit. | ||
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:01 Green_25 wrote: Not trolling, cloak fucks protoss air up really hard. Mines are actually fast and can chase down carriers/tempests. It works decently Forgot who he was playing against, but HTOMario, who always mechs in all matchups, used mines to fight Tempest/Carriers and it worked excellently. You just have to build a shitload of mines. Ghosts are good too because of EMP of course, and Cloak. And whoever said Observers everywhere messes up mine shots? The mines won't shoot at them unless they are revealed. So that doesn't really make sense. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:03 woody60707 wrote: As they should. Vikings are a long range anti siege unit. Not a air superiority unit. Marine is our air superiority unit. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:03 aZealot wrote: Awesome. Mama Carrier, I'm coming home! Alright, looks like they will get some money from me. I can't not watch these games and this series. :D unless they get shot on the way back | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:04 ArTiFaKs wrote: Forgot who he was playing against, but HTOMario, who always mechs in all matchups, used mines to fight Tempest/Carriers and it worked excellently. You just have to build a shitload of mines. Ghosts are good too because of EMP of course, and Cloak. And whoever said Observers everywhere messes up mine shots? The mines won't shoot at them unless they are revealed. So that doesn't really make sense. I believe he means that observers will reveal the mines and you can then target them with the carriers. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:03 Daogin wrote: Arcade seems to have changed a lot in the last year, looks like there is a lot of cool new games >.> Yeah, been thinking that myself. A lot of good work has gone in there. Gasp, there might actually be more to SC2 than ladder! :D | ||
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ETisME
12866 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:04 ArTiFaKs wrote: Forgot who he was playing against, but HTOMario, who always mechs in all matchups, used mines to fight Tempest/Carriers and it worked excellently. You just have to build a shitload of mines. Ghosts are good too because of EMP of course, and Cloak. And whoever said Observers everywhere messes up mine shots? The mines won't shoot at them unless they are revealed. So that doesn't really make sense. yup should be him. he just massed widow mines, run them in and boom goes interceptors/carrier/tempest | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On January 23 2014 14:59 aZealot wrote: FUCK! I don't have a GSL sub, either. It might be time to purchase one just so I can watch the vods of "Carrier has arrived". Man, it did my Protoss heart good to see carriers owning it up for the win. :D You can save money and emulate the games yourself by building 3 stargate carrier and amoving over a computer opponent. Those were some really bad games, Supernova had no answer and got totally rolled by the carriers both times. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
Fixed that | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
reported for balance whining! Enjoy your ban | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2475 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:07 BigFan wrote: reported for balance whining! Enjoy your ban http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ Next match seems promising, haven't seen Coca play in quite a while. | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:08 Doublemint wrote: http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ Next match seems promising, haven't seen Coca play in quite a while. doesn't work >.> reported yet again! | ||
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Inty
United States99 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:00 Vindicare605 wrote: Stop Micro as demonstrated in that video doesn't really work in a late game situation like vs Carriers where Observers are almost guaranteed to be around. You'll lose all your widow Mines without really a chance for them to lock onto the Carriers. But don't believe me, I want you to go test it yourself. Try using Widow Mines vs Carriers. Interceptors completely fuck with the Widow Mine AI. Widow Mines work fine vs Void Rays and Tempests but they are completely useless vs Carriers. I don't blame people for not knowing this since Carriers aren't exactly common, but I've for whatever reason spent plenty of games in Mech Vs Protoss fighting Carriers. The only way to really beat them is Vikings and Thors in large numbers, Widow Mines don't work. Maybe that was a bad video to show but you can choose which target the widow mines will hit as they are burrowing/right when they burrow. If you do it correctly they will hit the carrier and not the interceptors. If you just burrow them and not target then yes might hit interceptors. Also if it is late game and you engage with widow mines, thors, and vikings the widow mines have lower priority while unborrowed meaning they need to do a lot of micro to kill the widow mines since they are small and numerous in which case your thors and vikings have more time to do damage or focus on thors and vikings and take a lot of damage from widow mines. I guess this this shows a little more of what I am talking about but not all of the micro. | ||
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Korson
United States47 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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BigFan
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