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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
January 23 2014 06:03 GMT
#361
On January 23 2014 14:59 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 14:59 aZealot wrote:
FUCK! I don't have a GSL sub, either. It might be time to purchase one just so I can watch the vods of "Carrier has arrived".

Man, it did my Protoss heart good to see carriers owning it up for the win. :D

best part was when he recalled the carriers and the interceptors traveled half the map to get back to the carriers rofl


Awesome. Mama Carrier, I'm coming home!

Alright, looks like they will get some money from me. I can't not watch these games and this series. :D
KT best KT ~ 2014
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 23 2014 06:03 GMT
#362
On January 23 2014 15:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 14:59 BigFan wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:59 aZealot wrote:
FUCK! I don't have a GSL sub, either. It might be time to purchase one just so I can watch the vods of "Carrier has arrived".

Man, it did my Protoss heart good to see carriers owning it up for the win. :D

best part was when he recalled the carriers and the interceptors traveled half the map to get back to the carriers rofl


Its a next level scouting strategy.

hmm so fly a carrier into a base with MSc then recall and the interceptors will scout the base, truly next level scouting!

On January 23 2014 15:00 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 14:59 BigFan wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:59 aZealot wrote:
FUCK! I don't have a GSL sub, either. It might be time to purchase one just so I can watch the vods of "Carrier has arrived".

Man, it did my Protoss heart good to see carriers owning it up for the win. :D

best part was when he recalled the carriers and the interceptors traveled half the map to get back to the carriers rofl


Lol noooo interceptors! don't leave me!

I guess you can say they ... retreated
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 06:05:26
January 23 2014 06:03 GMT
#363
On January 23 2014 14:56 Loccstana wrote:
So vikings lose to carriers, voidrays, phoenix, tempest, basically every single Protoss airunit?


As they should. Vikings are a long range anti siege unit. (but vikings do kinda well vs tempest) Not a air superiority unit.
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
January 23 2014 06:04 GMT
#364
On January 23 2014 15:01 Green_25 wrote:
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On January 23 2014 14:59 shockaslim wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:57 Green_25 wrote:
Supernova made the wrong stuff, needed ghosts and mines.


Not sure if you are trolling or not.....

Not trolling, cloak fucks protoss air up really hard. Mines are actually fast and can chase down carriers/tempests. It works decently


Forgot who he was playing against, but HTOMario, who always mechs in all matchups, used mines to fight Tempest/Carriers and it worked excellently. You just have to build a shitload of mines. Ghosts are good too because of EMP of course, and Cloak.

And whoever said Observers everywhere messes up mine shots? The mines won't shoot at them unless they are revealed. So that doesn't really make sense.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 23 2014 06:04 GMT
#365
On January 23 2014 15:03 woody60707 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 14:56 Loccstana wrote:
So vikings lose to carriers, voidrays, phoenix, tempest, basically every single Protoss airunit?


As they should. Vikings are a long range anti siege unit. Not a air superiority unit.

Marine is our air superiority unit.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 23 2014 06:04 GMT
#366
On January 23 2014 15:03 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 14:59 BigFan wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:59 aZealot wrote:
FUCK! I don't have a GSL sub, either. It might be time to purchase one just so I can watch the vods of "Carrier has arrived".

Man, it did my Protoss heart good to see carriers owning it up for the win. :D

best part was when he recalled the carriers and the interceptors traveled half the map to get back to the carriers rofl


Awesome. Mama Carrier, I'm coming home!

Alright, looks like they will get some money from me. I can't not watch these games and this series. :D

unless they get shot on the way back
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 23 2014 06:05 GMT
#367
On January 23 2014 15:04 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 15:01 Green_25 wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:59 shockaslim wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:57 Green_25 wrote:
Supernova made the wrong stuff, needed ghosts and mines.


Not sure if you are trolling or not.....

Not trolling, cloak fucks protoss air up really hard. Mines are actually fast and can chase down carriers/tempests. It works decently


Forgot who he was playing against, but HTOMario, who always mechs in all matchups, used mines to fight Tempest/Carriers and it worked excellently. You just have to build a shitload of mines. Ghosts are good too because of EMP of course, and Cloak.

And whoever said Observers everywhere messes up mine shots? The mines won't shoot at them unless they are revealed. So that doesn't really make sense.

I believe he means that observers will reveal the mines and you can then target them with the carriers.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
January 23 2014 06:05 GMT
#368
On January 23 2014 15:03 Daogin wrote:
Arcade seems to have changed a lot in the last year, looks like there is a lot of cool new games >.>


Yeah, been thinking that myself. A lot of good work has gone in there.

Gasp, there might actually be more to SC2 than ladder! :D
KT best KT ~ 2014
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12376 Posts
January 23 2014 06:06 GMT
#369
On January 23 2014 15:04 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 15:01 Green_25 wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:59 shockaslim wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:57 Green_25 wrote:
Supernova made the wrong stuff, needed ghosts and mines.


Not sure if you are trolling or not.....

Not trolling, cloak fucks protoss air up really hard. Mines are actually fast and can chase down carriers/tempests. It works decently


Forgot who he was playing against, but HTOMario, who always mechs in all matchups, used mines to fight Tempest/Carriers and it worked excellently. You just have to build a shitload of mines. Ghosts are good too because of EMP of course, and Cloak.

And whoever said Observers everywhere messes up mine shots? The mines won't shoot at them unless they are revealed. So that doesn't really make sense.

yup should be him. he just massed widow mines, run them in and boom goes interceptors/carrier/tempest
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 23 2014 06:06 GMT
#370
On January 23 2014 14:59 aZealot wrote:
FUCK! I don't have a GSL sub, either. It might be time to purchase one just so I can watch the vods of "Carrier has arrived".

Man, it did my Protoss heart good to see carriers owning it up for the win. :D

You can save money and emulate the games yourself by building 3 stargate carrier and amoving over a computer opponent.

Those were some really bad games, Supernova had no answer and got totally rolled by the carriers both times.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8487 Posts
January 23 2014 06:06 GMT
#371
On January 23 2014 15:04 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 15:03 woody60707 wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:56 Loccstana wrote:
So vikings lose to carriers, voidrays, phoenix, tempest, basically every single Protoss airunit?


As they should. Vikings are a long range anti siege unit. Not a air superiority unit.

Marine is our air superiority unit.


Fixed that
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 06:07:32
January 23 2014 06:07 GMT
#372
On January 23 2014 15:06 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 15:04 ZenithM wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:03 woody60707 wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:56 Loccstana wrote:
So vikings lose to carriers, voidrays, phoenix, tempest, basically every single Protoss airunit?


As they should. Vikings are a long range anti siege unit. Not a air superiority unit.

Marine is our air superiority unit.


Fixed that

reported for balance whining! Enjoy your ban
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
January 23 2014 06:08 GMT
#373
I hope TheBest MKP's it up and lifts to the Gold. Although with the ZvT overlord scouting it might not work as well...still though, he's cheesy enough to do it.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8487 Posts
January 23 2014 06:08 GMT
#374
On January 23 2014 15:07 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 15:06 Doublemint wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:04 ZenithM wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:03 woody60707 wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:56 Loccstana wrote:
So vikings lose to carriers, voidrays, phoenix, tempest, basically every single Protoss airunit?


As they should. Vikings are a long range anti siege unit. Not a air superiority unit.

Marine is our air superiority unit.


Fixed that

reported for balance whining! Enjoy your ban


http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Next match seems promising, haven't seen Coca play in quite a while.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
January 23 2014 06:09 GMT
#375
coca please advance, I mind we not gonna see you in PL anytime soon right?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 06:10:43
January 23 2014 06:10 GMT
#376
let's go coca! :D

On January 23 2014 15:08 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 15:07 BigFan wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:06 Doublemint wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:04 ZenithM wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:03 woody60707 wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:56 Loccstana wrote:
So vikings lose to carriers, voidrays, phoenix, tempest, basically every single Protoss airunit?


As they should. Vikings are a long range anti siege unit. Not a air superiority unit.

Marine is our air superiority unit.


Fixed that

reported for balance whining! Enjoy your ban


http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Next match seems promising, haven't seen Coca play in quite a while.

doesn't work >.> reported yet again!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Inty
Profile Joined June 2010
United States99 Posts
January 23 2014 06:10 GMT
#377
On January 23 2014 15:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 14:57 Inty wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:54 Inty wrote:
Supernova really needed widow mines. They do so well against carriers since they are cheap and fast to build and do a lot of splash since carriers stack up so much.


Only problem is that you can't target fire with Widow Mines.

Shooting at Interceptors is a complete waste.


You can target with widow mines.as seen here.


Stop Micro as demonstrated in that video doesn't really work in a late game situation like vs Carriers where Observers are almost guaranteed to be around. You'll lose all your widow Mines without really a chance for them to lock onto the Carriers.

But don't believe me, I want you to go test it yourself. Try using Widow Mines vs Carriers. Interceptors completely fuck with the Widow Mine AI. Widow Mines work fine vs Void Rays and Tempests but they are completely useless vs Carriers.

I don't blame people for not knowing this since Carriers aren't exactly common, but I've for whatever reason spent plenty of games in Mech Vs Protoss fighting Carriers. The only way to really beat them is Vikings and Thors in large numbers, Widow Mines don't work.



Maybe that was a bad video to show but you can choose which target the widow mines will hit as they are burrowing/right when they burrow. If you do it correctly they will hit the carrier and not the interceptors. If you just burrow them and not target then yes might hit interceptors. Also if it is late game and you engage with widow mines, thors, and vikings the widow mines have lower priority while unborrowed meaning they need to do a lot of micro to kill the widow mines since they are small and numerous in which case your thors and vikings have more time to do damage or focus on thors and vikings and take a lot of damage from widow mines. I guess this this shows a little more of what I am talking about but not all of the micro.
Korson
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States47 Posts
January 23 2014 06:11 GMT
#378
Can any higher level players give any insight as to Supernova's mech strategy against protoss? Is this something that could possibly work in HotS if it was refined?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 23 2014 06:13 GMT
#379
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 23 2014 06:13 GMT
#380
were LRs thread always this slow? I recall when we used to get a ton of posts during games >.>
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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