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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 22 2014 09:57 GMT
#261
I don't know you anymore, herO...or Stork
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 22 2014 09:57 GMT
#262
On January 22 2014 18:56 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 18:53 Dodgin wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:43 GumBa wrote:
If inno doesnt make it I dont even...


The only Terrans in Code S so far are from Kespa. Coincidence? Innovation probably won't make it since he's Acer now.

I still believe though


I belive in Bogus!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#263
On January 22 2014 18:49 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 18:47 ETisME wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:45 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:39 ETisME wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:35 Mozdk wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:33 ETisME wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:30 Mozdk wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:29 ETisME wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:24 Mozdk wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:22 Big J wrote:
[quote]

which isn't true. You can do the math. Hell, with the existence of mules (and my extreme experiements with 4-5CC builds in WoL) it's rather so that Zerg is economically behind Terran in such a scenario.


Ok I guess you just broke the meta where TERRAN AND PROTOSS have to preasure zerg to keep them from making drones. Are you really that stupid?

wow don't go to personal insult if you lose an argument.
You said zerg would win every single game if it was a 15mins no attack game and you can't even provide any counter argument except going back to the actual starcraft game where there is attack before 15mins.
:S


My argument is completely valid. You're not making sense.

"meta where TERRAN AND PROTOSS have to preasure zerg to keep them from making drones."
That is not
"If starcraft was 15 min no attack "

argument completely invalid, sorry


So two things that are not exactly the same are not comparable? Are you listening to yourself?

T and P can produce workers faster than Z does if it is a 15 mins no attack game.


Lol, not even close. Zerg will always have most workers, followed by protoss and then terran. In a 15 min no attack game zerg can probably get around 70 drones by 10min mark, maybe even more, not sure. Terran can get around 50 SCVs and protos is somewhere in between.



I am pretty sure P gets workers out faster than Z if all chrono is spent on workers because in a 2 base vs 2 base situation, Toss is even if not faster to reach 2 base saturation.
that is not taking account of all the extra chrono from the extra nexus you get from a 15 min no rush game


Yeah but zerg wont be on 2 bases at 10min mark if we are talking about 15 min no attack game..They will take way faster third and with 3 hatches injecting zerg production grows exponentially.


The thing is, Zerg infrastructure costs more to set up for pure worker production (350 per hatch, 150 per queen +250 for one pool you need for queens; compared to plain 400 per protoss nexus) and until Zerg has queens, Protoss does outproduce Zerg quite a bit in workers.
To go for a perfected drone build I think you'd go like 3-4hatch--> pool-->3-4queens, while Protoss could just go 4-5Nexus and in all that time produce more workers. Then Zerg would eventually overcome Protoss, but they'd both hit a "maximum of workers you want to have" at some point. Though that maximum could be somewhere higher than the current 70-80 workers, because you could kill them yourself later on again once you want to build army. But no matter what, the difference in income wouldn't be that high. In ratios, it may very well be lower than in a normal game, in which Zerg often gets a 3rd somewhat saturated at ~8mins, while Protoss only starts its third at that point in time. So the situation may very well be better than in a normal game. But of course it could also be worse if a Zerg doesn't have to commit to any units/tech and then starts 100supply of somthing at 14:00 and you don't know until it pops. But all of that would have to be figured out and I'm not even sure how much money you could actually have at 15mins to instantly create some army.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
January 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#264
On January 22 2014 18:56 NovaMB wrote:
I will never understand this matchup lol


Whatcha wanna know?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#265
i'm the herO fanclub owner but i'm rooting for stork, am i a bad person?
Moderatorlickypiddy
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#266
Poll: Recommend Stork vs. herO Game 1?

Good Game (7)
 
37%

Excellent Game (6)
 
32%

Meh Game (6)
 
32%

Bad Game (0)
 
0%

19 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Stork vs. herO Game 1?

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game

Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#267
I'm regretting staying up till 4AM (well, 5AM now) just to see these matches ._.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#268
On January 22 2014 18:58 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 18:56 NovaMB wrote:
I will never understand this matchup lol


Whatcha wanna know?

Doesnt matter, PvP and ZvZ is so weird, I just watch supply numbers
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#269
On January 22 2014 18:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
i'm the herO fanclub owner but i'm rooting for stork, am i a bad person?


Very bad person ;o
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 22 2014 09:58 GMT
#270
On January 22 2014 18:58 Blargh wrote:
I'm regretting staying up till 4AM (well, 5AM now) just to see these matches ._.

when stork wins you won't regret it
Moderatorlickypiddy
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
January 22 2014 10:00 GMT
#271
The TL strategy guide on the Archon/Immortal style pretty much sums up what happened in that game. Hero tried to tech to Colossus and get a third. As he does that, he's the weakest. That's when the Arch/Immo player strikes. The huge ramp makes it very hard for Hero to defend and there are not enough colossus to win.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 22 2014 10:00 GMT
#272
On January 22 2014 18:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 18:58 Blargh wrote:
I'm regretting staying up till 4AM (well, 5AM now) just to see these matches ._.

when stork wins you won't regret it


Words of Wisdom
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 22 2014 10:00 GMT
#273
On January 22 2014 18:58 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 18:56 NovaMB wrote:
I will never understand this matchup lol


Whatcha wanna know?

survive early cheese --> transition into laser tech --> 1a army clash
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 22 2014 10:01 GMT
#274
I have to go back to work I BETTER FUCKING LIKE THE RESULTS WHEN I GET BACK!
And cheer on inno in my stead anyone who is a true believer and not a complete toss scumbag (apart from Stork cause BW)
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 22 2014 10:01 GMT
#275
On January 22 2014 18:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 18:58 Blargh wrote:
I'm regretting staying up till 4AM (well, 5AM now) just to see these matches ._.

when stork wins you won't regret it

Okay, but only if he beats Zest, and then Innovation beats herO and Zest (revenge match) so that there are actually some Terrans in Code S. I'd love to see Stork return to his former glory, but I'm not extremely optimistic about it.
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
January 22 2014 10:02 GMT
#276
Hi guys, bit late. How'd my boy Zest own Innovation? Sick plays?
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
January 22 2014 10:02 GMT
#277
On January 22 2014 19:00 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 18:58 Heartland wrote:
On January 22 2014 18:56 NovaMB wrote:
I will never understand this matchup lol


Whatcha wanna know?

survive early cheese --> transition into laser tech --> 1a army clash


That's not at all what happened.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 22 2014 10:02 GMT
#278
On January 22 2014 19:01 GumBa wrote:
I have to go back to work I BETTER FUCKING LIKE THE RESULTS WHEN I GET BACK!
And cheer on inno in my stead anyone who is a true believer and not a complete toss scumbag (apart from Stork cause BW)

Maybe grab a beer or 3 before you come back i guess.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
January 22 2014 10:02 GMT
#279
I wonder at what time I turned into a snarky LR hero.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 22 2014 10:02 GMT
#280
[image loading]

Poll: Who is more handsome?

Stork (27)
 
55%

CJ herO (22)
 
45%

49 total votes

Your vote: Who is more handsome?

(Vote): Stork
(Vote): CJ herO

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