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KOTH style tournament by Clauf. Might aswell make an LR thread.
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So this is what Clauf was up to. Lets see.
Is it me or is the game on a low framerate? Yeah, the game looks really choppy
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hooray to the op for making a LR !
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strange production. its like watching a japanese game show
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All this money but no 60fps makes me sad. This doesnt even look like 30 
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Grubby takes the first game
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the game speed is almost doubled it seems like. Not sure if i like that in the later stages of the game, the first 8 min in a a normal game would be okay...
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On January 21 2014 06:01 Heartland wrote:
What is clauf?!
No idea, but Azubu money pays them
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This is really disappointing after their HS fight night. Sound quality is bad and game FPS is way too low. BasetradeTV is also on and they blow Clauf out of the water in in-game production.
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This sounds fun!
And then I saw the quality of the production :/
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Kaelaris sounds a bit like a droid
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On January 21 2014 06:13 Lorning wrote:
Kaelaris sounds a bit like a droid
I could see him actually being a robot. Overwhelmed by his emotional chip, he tries to handle all the new sensations by nervous giggling and english idioms.
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When is this recorded? Anyone know?
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On January 21 2014 06:19 Heartland wrote:
When is this recorded? Anyone know?
Week before Christmas I believe
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Tme stream quality definitely looks a bit weird, I can see this having potential though.
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Thanks. It feels so weird to watch a prerecorded cast.
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I don't like this map ...
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On January 21 2014 06:26 Lorning wrote:
I don't like this map ...
Yeah. Are any maps with the concept of being "big huge macro maps" fun?
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On January 21 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:Yeah. Are any maps with the concept of being "big huge macro maps" fun?
Whirlwind had some good games: Flash vs Ryung, DRG vs Innovation, TRUE vs Fantasy, MMA vs Mvp.
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On January 21 2014 06:30 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 06:28 Heartland wrote:On January 21 2014 06:26 Lorning wrote:
I don't like this map ... Yeah. Are any maps with the concept of being "big huge macro maps" fun? Whirlwind had some good games: Flash vs Ryung, DRG vs Innovation, TRUE vs Fantasy, MMA vs Mvp.
Yeah, but maybe that was just because it was played for two years and remained a popular enough map?
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I'm kinda dissapointed they didn't invite any AZUBU players. Too suspicious I'd assume.
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On January 21 2014 06:32 Lorning wrote:
I'm kinda dissapointed they didn't invite any AZUBU players. Too suspicious I'd assume.
AZUBU has players left?
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Hasu making 5 phoenix at a time.
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On January 21 2014 06:33 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 06:32 Lorning wrote:
I'm kinda dissapointed they didn't invite any AZUBU players. Too suspicious I'd assume. AZUBU has players left?
SuNo, Symbol, B4, Center and a couple more
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47 phoenix. What on Earth
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Hasu has finally figured out PvP
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hasu in the screen looks like a picture
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134 workers killed hahaha
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That amuses me, in the pre-match interview Grubby was talking about how Hasu doesn't realise when he could hit a winning timing, then he proceeds to just walk around his own base with 5 archons while he couldve attacked and rolled Hasu's base.
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5 colossi at the same time, lmao.
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When you have more Phoenix than your opponent has Probes, you sure are fine
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This stream is so pro. I know it's pre-recorded but still. The production makes it look like a genuine TV show.
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lol what the hell did i just watch. between this and Snute vs Titan yesterday i'm afraid to keep watching european players
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On January 21 2014 06:45 Larkin wrote:
This stream is so pro. I know it's pre-recorded but still. The production makes it look like a genuine TV show.
Combined with 24 fps for the cinematic expierience
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Omg what kind of outfit is that Frodan
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Are they seriously using porn music?
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Wait, how is this high production/classy looking tournament get such little hype?
Looks pro!
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On January 21 2014 06:50 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Wait, how is this high production/classy looking tournament get such little hype?
Looks pro!
I didn't even know it was going until 5 minutes before it started.
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On January 21 2014 06:51 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 06:50 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Wait, how is this high production/classy looking tournament get such little hype?
Looks pro! I didn't even know it was going until 5 minutes before it started.
Same, loving it so far!
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aaaand he takes the money$$$$$
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it looks so staged it's hilarious
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Haha omg with the scantily dressed girl, really? Standards people. A scantily dressed Frodan would be much better.
With a real audience this'd be really cool. Cheesy, but cool.
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i guess it wouldn't be Hasuobs if he didn't avoid every possible risk
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Haha did anybody really believe hasu would take the risk and choose another opponent?:D
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I knew about it only because I was watching them doing Hearthstone tournament and tuned in today expecting some more only to see 40+ phoenixes 
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WHAT DRAMATIC TLO POSE INTO CREDITS NO
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On January 21 2014 06:54 Larkin wrote:
Haha omg with the scantily dressed girl, really? Standards people. A scantily dressed Frodan would be much better.
Frodan literally ran into me with his fucking probe suit at Dreamhack Winter. I think I'll go with the girls after that, thanks
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This was fucking weird, what the fuck
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On January 21 2014 06:50 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Wait, how is this high production/classy looking tournament get such little hype?
Looks pro!
I think it's because it's prerecorded and over a month old. They're still playing on the old map pool.
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Hahaha, that walk-on. The show looks hilariously campy!
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Wow, this is actually really cool and well done. A bit cheesy, but I think that makes it even better. Any idea how long this is going on for? I wish I had tuned in earlier
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On January 21 2014 06:54 Schelim wrote:
i guess it wouldn't be Hasuobs if he didn't avoid every possible risk
XD
Loved the show.
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Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production.
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Im almost choking from laughing, holy shit this is just pure gold I feel like this show is produced by a hillbilly from Ohio or something
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On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production.
Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D
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LOL. TLO had me choking on my water there.
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I love the Fight Night's.
hearthstone was awesome so was this starcraft 1
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On January 21 2014 06:53 Lorning wrote:
HASU WHAT
Win rate vs opponents ~50%
Loss: -$500
Win: +$250
Not worth it if you aren't super confident or if money doesn't matter.
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Woa what is wrong with the framerate?
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im not man enough to wear that suit
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On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production.
Yeah, it's pretty fucking stupid.
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Does Grubby play TLO? He gets another chance now since Hasu left?
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On January 21 2014 06:57 Lorning wrote:I guess it's over,  Grubby vs  TLO is tomorrow
huh? didn't he just say Grubby is out and that we'll find out who TLO's opponent is tomorrow?
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On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D
Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately...
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Hahahah oh god this is gold. Frodan walking on with schoolgirl outfitted women. In that suit. Beautiful.
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On January 21 2014 06:57 Mozdk wrote:
Woa what is wrong with the framerate?
I dont know, but its certainly under 30. Its horrible
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Lmao, that walk-on again.
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On January 21 2014 06:58 Musicus wrote:
Does Grubby play TLO? He gets another chance now since Hasu left?
I believe he was just spinning the wheel since at the end of show it said "Now that we know the first opponenet stayed tuned to the next episode for the 2nd one."
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The show has great potential, but i still think it's a bit too cheesy. And also, girls, i feel like i'm watching the price is right!!
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GRUBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAHH
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So they're just gonna rebroadcast, alright
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wow
1 bo3 is a bit too short, I guess
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Oh is this just a repeat?
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Can someone explain what ESGN is? Like, where are they based out of, and what games do they cover?
I heard something about them flying all kinds of people to Berlin for some Hearthstone games?! Seems kinda odd.
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On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately...
Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist.
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Their website says Episode 2 tomorrow, same time.
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+ Show Spoiler +They showed Grubby spinning the wheel today after he lost and Hasu took the money, so I guess it's just Grubby v TLO
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On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist.
No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous!
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On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous!
Ironic like this sentence, right?
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On January 21 2014 07:06 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! Like this sentence, right?
So... it mocks sexism by being sexist? I don't find that very amusing. I get the irony, but unfortunately, it's counterproductive and reinforces stereotypes more than it defeats them; especially in a community as anti-woman as the gaming one.
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stop bashing the existence of the girls, you are ruining my chances on seeing awesome cosplay in their next shows maybe. But yes I think they should use males instead !
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On January 21 2014 07:10 Zackeva wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:06 NovaMB wrote:On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! Like this sentence, right? So... it mocks sexism by being sexist? I don't find that very amusing. I get the irony, but unfortunately, it's counterproductive and reinforces stereotypes more than it defeats them; especially in a community as anti-woman as the gaming one.
It doesnt mock anything. They're there because, well I have no clue. Probably because they want to appeal idiots.
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On January 21 2014 07:06 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! Ironic like this sentence, right?
The show is filmed in Berlin. It has to be self-aware.
*(I don't actually believe the show is self-aware, I was being lighthearted in the face of classic esport-production immaturity)
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On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous!
It's not sexist. It doesn't demean women. It's status quo, in the same sense that female cheerleaders are at ball sporting events or fight-girls are at combat sports events.
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On January 21 2014 07:14 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:06 NovaMB wrote:On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! Ironic like this sentence, right? The show is filmed in Berlin. It has to be self-aware. *(I don't actually believe the show is self-aware, I was being lighthearted in the face of classic esport-production immaturity)
I figured that, but not everyone has a built in sarcasm detector unfortunately
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On January 21 2014 07:19 Kiarip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! It's not sexist. It doesn't demean women. It's status quo, in the same sense that female cheerleaders are at ball sporting events or fight-girls are at combat sports events.
Status quo and sexism are not mutually exclusive ^^
There is nothing wrong with sex, but when the participation of the one Sex is limited to appearing half-nude and mute, particularly in a setting as dominated by males as esport is, I can't blame people for taking offense (though I don't think it's worth more than a chuckle at the expense of the producers). Why are they there? What role do they serve? Do we really need such stale images of power to big up the players?
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On January 21 2014 07:19 Kiarip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! It's not sexist. It doesn't demean women. It's status quo, in the same sense that female cheerleaders are at ball sporting events or fight-girls are at combat sports events.
Oh, glad you cleared that up for me; if you say it doesn't, then it can't possibly demean women. Now tell me about all the piles of cash cheerleaders make and how women are welcomed when they rather want to play the sports where they're supposed to shut up and look pretty.
I agree with M0ck in what was written above my post as well; even though I think the problem of sexism in especially esports is a bit too severe for me to chuckle at. : /
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On January 21 2014 07:32 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:19 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! It's not sexist. It doesn't demean women. It's status quo, in the same sense that female cheerleaders are at ball sporting events or fight-girls are at combat sports events. Status quo and sexism are not mutually exclusive ^^ There is nothing wrong with sex, but when the participation of the one Sex is limited to appearing half-nude and mute, particularly in a setting as dominated by males as esport is, I can't blame people for taking offense (though I don't think it's worth more than a chuckle at the expense of the producers). Why are they there? What role do they serve? Do we really need such stale images of power to big up the players?
Life is sexist. What about the cheerleaders in all major sports? Or the strangely monogendered sideline reporters who exist only to offer humorous anecdotes about the player's weekend activities? Or the female sports anchors that are never behind a desk so they can show as much leg as possible?
I mean it boggles my mind that people let themselves get bent out of shape.
That being said those chicks were ridiculous and I rolled my eyes each time they showed up.
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On January 21 2014 07:32 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:19 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! It's not sexist. It doesn't demean women. It's status quo, in the same sense that female cheerleaders are at ball sporting events or fight-girls are at combat sports events. Status quo and sexism are not mutually exclusive ^^ There is nothing wrong with sex, but when the participation of the one Sex is limited to appearing half-nude and mute, particularly in a setting as dominated by males as esport is, I can't blame people for taking offense (though I don't think it's worth more than a chuckle at the expense of the producers). Why are they there? What role do they serve? Do we really need such stale images of power to big up the players?
Status quo and and intentional sexism ARE mutually exclusive however. Status quo is the path of least resistance, so it's mutually exclusive with almost anything that's intentional.
It's simply status quo to have pretty girl present things, for many reasons. One reason would be the catering to the audience (mostly males and majority of people are straight) Women's bodies are also culturally associated with beauty in general not just sexiness, so even if the audience is split 50/50, picking female eye candy is the obvious choice.
On January 21 2014 07:33 Zackeva wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:19 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! It's not sexist. It doesn't demean women. It's status quo, in the same sense that female cheerleaders are at ball sporting events or fight-girls are at combat sports events. Oh, glad you cleared that up for me; if you say it doesn't, then it can't possibly demean women.
Anything can demean anyone, who cares? It doesn't intentionally demean women.
Now tell me about all the piles of cash cheerleaders make
Cheerleaders are professional dancers (at least in baskeball,) they make a standard professional dancer's salary I presume. They also love dancing. You're making it sound like cheerleaders at sports events are all the girls that wanted to play that particular sport but instead were cruelly told that since they're women they can't play but only cheer on the men... Obviously, this contradicts reason, because cheerleaders have to be skilled in their own craft and not in the sport they're cheering for.
and how women are welcomed when they rather want to play the sports where they're supposed to shut up and look pretty.
Women are welcomed to play sports just fine. I don't know what happens in your great progressive feminized homeland, but over here in America starting in high school girls can play all the sports that boys play except for american football and wrestling (I think.)
I agree with M0ck in what was written above my post as well; even though I think the problem of sexism in especially esports is a bit too severe for me to chuckle at. : /
The problem of sexism in esports? There's no problem of sexism in esports. There's no institutionalized sexism, there's only some vocal douche-bag fans who have no actual say in anything, but that's not sexism in esports that's just some vocal douche-bags being douche-bags.
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Whelp, watched the end of it and the white suits, the girls questionably dressed (questionable taste I mean), the wheel, and the general editing and arrangement made it look like a cheap tv show.. Really didn't like it, but meh.
Having another tournament to compete in is good for players, and I guess the intention was good, but going for something more.. sober? may have been a wisest choice in my opinion. It's not a question of having girls involved being sexist or what, I don't think booth girls ever shocked anyone in BW, it just looked ridiculous the way it was done :<
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On January 21 2014 08:10 Nimix wrote:
Whelp, watched the end of it and the white suits, the girls questionably dressed (questionable taste I mean), the wheel, and the general editing and arrangement made it look like a cheap tv show.. Really didn't like it, but meh.
Having another tournament to compete in is good for players, and I guess the intention was good, but going for something more.. sober? may have been a wisest choice in my opinion. It's not a question of having girls involved being sexist or what, I don't think booth girls ever shocked anyone in BW, it just looked ridiculous the way it was done :<
Couldn't agree more! They have such a nice studio and it seems like they aim for a crystalclean production but everything seems just a bit off and seriously, these low FPS are just a no go, I hope they fix it for next time.
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Yeah I can't watch it, feel like I need to run and hide behind a wall to not overload on awkwardness and whatever-it-is. Not sure what/who you lads are aiming for to be completely honest.
This is your baby though right TorteDeLini? You mind sharing the ideas behind making it what it is? Tried to watch some of the Hearthstone stuff but man, I felt embarrassed for me, casters, players, other people watching. Felt like I almost died of embarrassment. Had a thought that you might be doing it to cash in on some weird sub-culture of TCG-people where this level of awkwardness is standard but since you are also doing it with SC2 I just have to ask.
Best of luck though, hope you find your audience!
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On January 21 2014 08:05 SimDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 07:32 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:19 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 07:04 m0ck wrote:On January 21 2014 07:02 Kiarip wrote:On January 21 2014 06:58 Zackeva wrote:On January 21 2014 06:56 Redox wrote:On January 21 2014 06:55 Zackeva wrote:
Will not be watching this ... half-naked girls as eyecandy escorting the players? I thought we were living in the 21st century.
A shame with such a nice concept and what seemed to be some top notch production. Lol typical Swede, cant get out of that PC suit. :D Can't escape a sexist society, unfortunately... Living in Sweden has morphed your sense of what is sexist. No, it's definitely sexist. But, dear swedes, think of it as a tongue-in-cheek riff on how woman are traditionally presented in male dominated sports. Look at the colors in this show - the whole thing has to be done with an ironic distance! It's fabulous! It's not sexist. It doesn't demean women. It's status quo, in the same sense that female cheerleaders are at ball sporting events or fight-girls are at combat sports events. Status quo and sexism are not mutually exclusive ^^ There is nothing wrong with sex, but when the participation of the one Sex is limited to appearing half-nude and mute, particularly in a setting as dominated by males as esport is, I can't blame people for taking offense (though I don't think it's worth more than a chuckle at the expense of the producers). Why are they there? What role do they serve? Do we really need such stale images of power to big up the players? Life is sexist. What about the cheerleaders in all major sports? Or the strangely monogendered sideline reporters who exist only to offer humorous anecdotes about the player's weekend activities? Or the female sports anchors that are never behind a desk so they can show as much leg as possible? I mean it boggles my mind that people let themselves get bent out of shape. That being said those chicks were ridiculous and I rolled my eyes each time they showed up.
All of those women actually do something, the girls at ESGN are just standing and smiling and sometimes walking with someone, it's weird and awkward even if you don't think it's sexist.
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The ESGN girls thing is cringeworthy cheesy shit and it's embarrassing to watch.
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I am trying to remember whether there was this much of a fuss over the OGN Stargirls
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Just watched the rebroadcast, my 2cents:
* the games were fun to watch; the last one was borderline silly, but still fun
* the format is interesting for a change
* the video quality was awful with all the stuttering and seemingly low framerate
* the sound quality was awful too; casters sounded like robots
* the whole production reminded me of a Japanese game-show; not my taste, though others may like it
* I don't like replay casting in general, but at least games were from the same patch
For me it failed on the main points. Though video and sound probably will be fixed in future broadcasts, I guess they'll keep the game-show like "nerd appeal", which turns me off.
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On January 21 2014 17:22 grs wrote:
Just watched the rebroadcast, my 2cents:
* the games were fun to watch; the last one was borderline silly, but still fun
* the format is interesting for a change
* the video quality was awful with all the stuttering and seemingly low framerate
* the sound quality was awful too; casters sounded like robots
* the whole production reminded me of a Japanese game-show; not my taste, though others may like it
* I don't like replay casting in general, but at least games were from the same patch
For me it failed on the main points. Though video and sound probably will be fixed in future broadcasts, I guess they'll keep the game-show like "nerd appeal", which turns me off.
Thanks for the input (:
We've noted the framerate issue and sound quality as well. Things will be smoothing out as we move forward. More stylistic things that you guys don't like may be transitioned out in future seasons.
Games are casted live at the time, then sent to post-production.
I've taken into account valid criticisms from the past 5 pages, thanks everyone (:
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On January 21 2014 07:02 dizzy101 wrote:
Can someone explain what ESGN is? Like, where are they based out of, and what games do they cover?
I heard something about them flying all kinds of people to Berlin for some Hearthstone games?! Seems kinda odd.
We are based in Berlin and our studio is in Babelsberg.
On ESGN TV we try to cover all eSports related activities. For Fight Night we started with HS, SC II and SF IV. But that may change in the future, and we could add more games
For ESGN.com we cover the games our partners support with tournaments: SCII, LoL, Dota2, BF4, WoT, CS:GO and HS.
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The funny but rather awkward "90s game show" feeling should be taken out. Besides that and the already mentioned production issues (the colors were way oversaturated, never noticed that kaelaris red beard is red like that when i met him in real life  ) i really like the concept of the show. Unfortunately not all players are showman and therefore seem to be a bit out of place when getting introduced (like tlos entrance ceremony...awkward )
+ Show Spoiler +And classic german move by hasuobs: Playing it safe, taking the money gl to grubby!
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Roger that, thanks! It's good to hear we're on the right road :D
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Actually besides the - already mentioned - production issues I really enjoyed the show. It was something fresh/new somewhere between the really sober production by ESL and dumb casts like yesterdays MLGGameOn. Keep going - I'll definitely tune in tonight :D
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Thanks, great to hear! We are definitely going to do more!
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i keep getting esgn ads while on TL wtf
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On January 21 2014 15:36 lichter wrote:
I am trying to remember whether there was this much of a fuss over the OGN Stargirls
At least they fit in well.
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On January 22 2014 01:27 lichter wrote:
i keep getting esgn ads while on TL wtf
Azubu money put to good use. Its all over Liquipedia aswell
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HAHAHAHA the TLO intro :DDD
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On January 22 2014 01:27 lichter wrote:
i keep getting esgn ads while on TL wtf
Thats google for you.
For whatever reason I keep getting Asian women ads...
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On January 22 2014 01:33 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 01:27 lichter wrote:
i keep getting esgn ads while on TL wtf Thats google for you. For whatever reason I keep getting Asian women ads...
Has to do with the website, not you afaik. I keep getting asian women/muslim women/russian woman as well on TL, but only there. On esportsearnings I only get World of Tanks ads, on my E-mail adress I get ads for shoes, etc.
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The second day starts soon, I think
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White-Ra vs TLO is Game 2
I think I'm getting the hang of this format
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I'm still laughing at that frodan pimp suit !
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Beside the fps ingame, I am really enjoying it ^^
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TLO v Whitera. Am I back in law school?
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On January 22 2014 01:27 lichter wrote:
i keep getting esgn ads while on TL wtf
Google is doing a pretty accurate job.
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I would be afraid as well about being unlucky with the wheel knowing the player pool ^^;
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Just tuning in to the TLO vs. White-Ra rebroadcast and definitely like what I'm seeing. So who do you reckon it'll be tomorrow?
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Please don't drop the hot girls, I really like them they can do more though. I am okay with removing them for any other game but it would be a shame if you didn't keep them for Street Fighter where they would truly enhance the boxing style atmosphere and with contestants who actually have game with the ladies
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On January 22 2014 10:20 DeathProfessor wrote:Please don't drop the hot girls, I really like them they can do more though. I am okay with removing them for any other game but it would be a shame if you didn't keep them for Street Fighter where they would truly enhance the boxing style atmosphere and with contestants who actually have game with the ladies
So much game you have to hire woman to be around them? oO
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Dont get why there's only 600 viewers.. This is so good
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When was this played? Mana isnt on moussports anymore....
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 Mvp takes win nr 1 on Alterzim
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On January 23 2014 05:47 hallonpaj wrote:Dont get why there's only 600 viewers.. This is so good
Same here. 11.000 watching Bling vs Krass while the King of Wings only attracts 900...
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On January 23 2014 05:53 Silvanel wrote:
When was this played? Mana isnt on moussports anymore....
In december I think.
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On January 23 2014 06:06 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 05:47 hallonpaj wrote:Dont get why there's only 600 viewers.. This is so good Same here. 11.000 watching Bling vs Krass while the King of Wings only attracts 900...
Old show games < live WCS Challenger I guess.
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GG's, Mvp takes the match 2 - 0
But the question is, will Mvp spin the wheel of death (not really death, but well) or will he take the 500 dollahs?
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noooooo
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Aw, thought he had enough money already 
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Aaaand Mvp takes the money too...........
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Haha, you'd think Mvp was more a gambler. ^^ Actually I'm not surprised at all, but it's a bit boring!
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Well, 8 players with 5 matches to broadcast from replays. It does not seem hard to calculate how many people will take the money.
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On January 23 2014 06:29 grs wrote:
Well, 8 players with 5 matches to broadcast from replays. It does not seem hard to calculate how many people will take the money.
I actually guessed the 5 matches, It'll probably be 4 cause only Nestea is left I think
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On January 23 2014 06:29 Melliflue wrote:
What was the second map?
Frost
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Also this thing is so cheesy, I love it. The lame break music, the scantily clad women. So wonderfully stupid.
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On January 23 2014 06:30 Lorning wrote:Frost
Thanks
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From a production standpoint there's some weird stuff going on with ESGN so far. Mic quality has improved since the pilot broadcast but game sound quality has suffered as a result. There's some really weird EQing going on somewhere, if you listen to things like the mothership core firing or orbital command building, you'll notice it's very tinny, there's no low frequencies in there what-so-ever. I'm not sure what's going on there. Also the framerate of the stream is extremely poor, I estimate around 20fps or so, which is just unacceptable in this day and age.
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On January 23 2014 07:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:
From a production standpoint there's some weird stuff going on with ESGN so far. Mic quality has improved since the pilot broadcast but game sound quality has suffered as a result. There's some really weird EQing going on somewhere, if you listen to things like the mothership core firing or orbital command building, you'll notice it's very tinny, there's no low frequencies in there what-so-ever. I'm not sure what's going on there. Also the framerate of the stream is extremely poor, I estimate around 20fps or so, which is just unacceptable in this day and age.
Sounds like there is just a Mic picking up a couple of speakers. <_<
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I don't think this is unexpected, it takes far too long for the prizemoney to ramp up to something worthwhile.
Dunno it would be nice for ESGN to figure out a way to make it worthwhile for these guys to risk their money. Not sure what it would take.
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Next game tomorrow at 21:30 CET!
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On January 23 2014 08:42 SimDawg wrote:
I don't think this is unexpected, it takes far too long for the prizemoney to ramp up to something worthwhile.
Dunno it would be nice for ESGN to figure out a way to make it worthwhile for these guys to risk their money. Not sure what it would take.
Yeah, risking $500 for an extra $250 in a Bo3 is stupid. No-one would take that chance.
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Man that attack blew my mind. So glad I woke up in time to see that three way.
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Geez SC2 community, 600-1000 viewers this week? Hearthstone version got something like 8000-13k viewers. A Mrs Spyte stream had more viewers and who the heck is Mrs Spyte?
Socke vs. Nestea with Artosis and Kaelaris casting? I know its cheesy production but its a little embarrassing, you can have two streams up at once given decent internet, support eSports.
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On January 24 2014 06:20 DeathProfessor wrote:
Geez SC2 community, 600-1000 viewers this week? Hearthstone version got something like 8000-13k viewers. A Mrs Spyte stream had more viewers and who the heck is Mrs Spyte?
Socke vs. Nestea with Artosis and Kaelaris casting? I know its cheesy production but its a little embarrassing, you can have two streams up at once given decent internet, support eSports.
Sorry, but this is nonsense. With the same argument you could promote watching all streams just to buff up numbers. Obviously not many people enjoy the ESGN content much; at least not when there is other stuff running too.
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There's WCS Challenger, Warer.com and Fight Night going on right now, there's just a lot of content at this point. If only this started ~2 weeks ago then they had 1-2 weeks with no real starcraft content during EU primetime and a lot of people might've gotten hooked on fight night.
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On January 24 2014 06:42 Abradix1 wrote:
There's WCS Challenger, Warer.com and Fight Night going on right now, there's just a lot of content at this point. If only this started ~2 weeks ago then they had 1-2 weeks with no real starcraft content during EU primetime and a lot of people might've gotten hooked on fight night.
Sadly the truth.
And shockingly, the FPS still seem very very low.
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On January 23 2014 10:36 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 08:42 SimDawg wrote:
I don't think this is unexpected, it takes far too long for the prizemoney to ramp up to something worthwhile.
Dunno it would be nice for ESGN to figure out a way to make it worthwhile for these guys to risk their money. Not sure what it would take. Yeah, risking $500 for an extra $250 in a Bo3 is stupid. No-one would take that chance.
Yeah but the $25k at the end of the rainbow is pretty nice. I'm surprised Mvp didn't go for it at least, he's got a 63.89% winrate vs comparable players so the expected return of going for the $25k after winning the first game is (0.6389)^6(25k) = $1700 (0.703)^6(25k)=$3017. The guys got enough esports money so it's not like he needs the $500 to feed his family, I'd have gone for it.
edit: fix calculation for bo3.
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Why are you guys so negative? There is just too much on at this moment! The content is fine.
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This is why all zergs should go swarm host and defensive. Even Nestea is going to loose to Socke.
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Nestea! What a muta fakeout!
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On January 24 2014 06:20 DeathProfessor wrote:
Geez SC2 community, 600-1000 viewers this week? Hearthstone version got something like 8000-13k viewers. A Mrs Spyte stream had more viewers and who the heck is Mrs Spyte?
Socke vs. Nestea with Artosis and Kaelaris casting? I know its cheesy production but its a little embarrassing, you can have two streams up at once given decent internet, support eSports.
I watched the first episode, and I just cannot stand these low ingame FPS anymore. I checked the LR thread for the second one, and the problems seemed to continue so I am not watching anymore - it is as simple as this and ofc I prefer WCS Challenger cause I think the format is pretty great and thrilling to watch
I just hope they fix their issues for the second edition and I will try it once again
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On January 24 2014 06:20 DeathProfessor wrote:
Geez SC2 community, 600-1000 viewers this week? Hearthstone version got something like 8000-13k viewers. A Mrs Spyte stream had more viewers and who the heck is Mrs Spyte?
Socke vs. Nestea with Artosis and Kaelaris casting? I know its cheesy production but its a little embarrassing, you can have two streams up at once given decent internet, support eSports.
Well, thanks to ESGN for the effort, but:
- It's 1 month old games.
- It's (compared to nowadays' top level progamers) rather average/bad players.
- Cheesy production.
- Bad format (no one would risk 500$ in a bo3, that just doesn't work in SC2).
- No advertisement anywhere. If you don't look in SC2 Tournaments @TL.net you won't even know about it.
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That's no criticism, only an explanation of the viewer numbers.
Whereas ESGN is almost the ONLY ESPORTS EVENT in HS. So... there you have it.
Hoping for a second season with improved format and more people will watch.
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Yea ESGN is doing an amazing job but I think to make it so someone doesn't just take the money and go 100% of the time is make it so they get 250$ for the first win and 500$ for the second win.... Then atleast we might get more than 1 BO3
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Hm, this needs to happen for Starbow.
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And Socke takes the 2 - 0
I guess he starts as first in the next season
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On January 25 2014 06:17 Lorning wrote:And Socke takes the 2 - 0 I guess he starts as First in the NEXT season
On the first post there is NesTea instead of Socke.
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On January 25 2014 06:19 Aeromi wrote:On the first post there is NesTea instead of Socke.
Thanks!
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lol everyone just takes the money and leaves? nobody wants to take a risk?
the entire concept didnt convince me so im not watching but the only fun part doesnt even take place. With that price pool you could have created something really awesome but this doesnt really work apparently
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feedback: stronger team colours rules!
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This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve.
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On January 25 2014 07:52 dizzy101 wrote:
This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve.
Yeah I like the players and casters but the card girls are a bit cringeworthy imo
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1/ ESGN needs to improve his format. Nobody ll never, EVER, E.V.E.R risks 500$ in another Best of 3 for .... just 250$ !!! I think +250$,+250$,+500$ for the first 3 wins seems better. But let's be honest, in Starcraft 2, Bo3 is too random unless one of the 2 players is waaaayyyy better and u know your next opponent AFTER u decide to play again. So i don't think they 'll never try a second games. OR, I think "money earned can't be loose" 'd be much much better !
2/ Replays hurts the HYPE. One month old Replays destroys the Hype with a big hammer !
3/ Plz improve, i love your (Hearthstone) show !
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On January 25 2014 08:08 Holdenintherye wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 07:52 dizzy101 wrote:
This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve. Yeah I like the players and casters but the card girls are a bit cringeworthy imo
They also have to think about what type of broadcast they want to be.
Is it a weekly show? Or a small tournament? One game/different games? Which viewers do they want to attract?
So far, it seems it's not quite clear what the unifying idea behind ESGN is. I mean, they want to tap into the huge viewerbase for gaming that currently exists. But how are they differentiated from what's already available out there?
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On January 25 2014 07:52 dizzy101 wrote:
This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve.
I feel like with all the money they're sinking into production and stuff, that they probably need more than a peak of 5k viewers. I'd love to read the business case for this project.
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On January 29 2014 05:24 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 07:52 dizzy101 wrote:
This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve. I feel like with all the money they're sinking into production and stuff, that they probably need more than a peak of 5k viewers. I'd love to read the business case for this project.
Unless there is some serious sponsoring we can't see (and what good does a sponsoring you can't see?) I fear their reports don't look promising. I hope for them to have some funds to keep trying and improving.
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On January 29 2014 05:50 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 05:24 Zorkmid wrote:On January 25 2014 07:52 dizzy101 wrote:
This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve. I feel like with all the money they're sinking into production and stuff, that they probably need more than a peak of 5k viewers. I'd love to read the business case for this project. Unless there is some serious sponsoring we can't see (and what good does a sponsoring you can't see?) I fear their reports don't look promising. I hope for them to have some funds to keep trying and improving.
For all we know its Clauf (aka Azubu) who is funding this, and I guess we know where Azubu money came from.
On a related note, what ever happened to that big LYGF sponsor announcement?
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On January 29 2014 06:14 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 05:50 grs wrote:On January 29 2014 05:24 Zorkmid wrote:On January 25 2014 07:52 dizzy101 wrote:
This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve. I feel like with all the money they're sinking into production and stuff, that they probably need more than a peak of 5k viewers. I'd love to read the business case for this project. Unless there is some serious sponsoring we can't see (and what good does a sponsoring you can't see?) I fear their reports don't look promising. I hope for them to have some funds to keep trying and improving. For all we know its Clauf (aka Azubu) who is funding this, and I guess we know where Azubu money came from. On a related note, what ever happened to that big LYGF sponsor announcement?
LYGF have a private sponsor, they didnt say much more. I guess that is what you are talking about?
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On January 29 2014 07:09 Niko_Thien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 06:14 NovaMB wrote:On January 29 2014 05:50 grs wrote:On January 29 2014 05:24 Zorkmid wrote:On January 25 2014 07:52 dizzy101 wrote:
This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve. I feel like with all the money they're sinking into production and stuff, that they probably need more than a peak of 5k viewers. I'd love to read the business case for this project. Unless there is some serious sponsoring we can't see (and what good does a sponsoring you can't see?) I fear their reports don't look promising. I hope for them to have some funds to keep trying and improving. For all we know its Clauf (aka Azubu) who is funding this, and I guess we know where Azubu money came from. On a related note, what ever happened to that big LYGF sponsor announcement? LYGF have a private sponsor, they didnt say much more. I guess that is what you are talking about?
Yeah, they said they'd announce the sponsor "soon". Guess soon is still an undefined term in esports
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On January 29 2014 06:14 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 05:50 grs wrote:On January 29 2014 05:24 Zorkmid wrote:On January 25 2014 07:52 dizzy101 wrote:
This ESGN venture is interesting. I agree the 90's gameshow feeling + the scantily clad chicks are a bit much. But if they tone that down a bit, it's promising. I hope they'll get the viewers they deserve. I feel like with all the money they're sinking into production and stuff, that they probably need more than a peak of 5k viewers. I'd love to read the business case for this project. Unless there is some serious sponsoring we can't see (and what good does a sponsoring you can't see?) I fear their reports don't look promising. I hope for them to have some funds to keep trying and improving. For all we know its Clauf (aka Azubu) who is funding this, and I guess we know where Azubu money came from. On a related note, what ever happened to that big LYGF sponsor announcement?
We are still waiting, they said they would announce it like 15 days ago...
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The format definitely needs to be improved: the player that declines to go on and decides to take the money looses the right to play again and should not be re-invited again. The prizepool also needs to go increasing (for example 100 - 250 - 550 - 1200 - 2500 - 5500 - 12000).
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On March 09 2014 18:51 Enstein wrote:
The format definitely needs to be improved: the player that declines to go on and decides to take the money looses the right to play again and should not be re-invited again. The prizepool also needs to go increasing (for example 100 - 250 - 550 - 1200 - 2500 - 5500 - 12000).
Why would you punish the player if he chooses one of two legitimate options? Makes no sense at all , lol.
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On March 09 2014 20:40 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 18:51 Enstein wrote:
The format definitely needs to be improved: the player that declines to go on and decides to take the money looses the right to play again and should not be re-invited again. The prizepool also needs to go increasing (for example 100 - 250 - 550 - 1200 - 2500 - 5500 - 12000). Why would you punish the player if he chooses one of two legitimate options? Makes no sense at all , lol.
Actually, it sort of does, NarutO. Last week, on the Street Fighter edition, we along with Tasteless and Frodan watched Alioune play Xian with $10,000 up for grabs and it was perhaps the sickest moment in any Fight Night season in any game. I'm with you in that a player should never be forced to keep fighting or press his luck - that'd be just wrong - but the hype reaches crazy levels when someone goes for the big bucks, so there should be a way to reward taking risks.
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