On January 16 2014 18:34 SC2Toastie wrote: I find these games disgusting. One race sitting on its arse and the other attempting EVERYTHING out of desperation because every burden is on him.....
Fun!
Have to agree with this. I'm not in any way saying that Flash is playing excellent and still losing but watching the current TvP meta is disgusting. I stopped watching SC2 but couldn't resist watching Flash playing today and seeing the state of TvP being just as before...
Oh well. One can hope that some other T style will one day be viable because this is just boring to watch.
On January 16 2014 18:40 XPA wrote: Seriously I don´t like TvP at all, but you can´t balance whine after this game...Yes, losing your Temlar Tech doesn´t matter that much, when he sends SCVs in your Colossus fire. Plus YongHwa was going for more Colossus than normal. And behind that Flashs Macro was terrible. Just before the game ended he had like 35 SCVs.
He scv pulled twice lol, and was ahead of his opponent in income and army the entire game
On January 16 2014 18:37 MisterTea wrote: I dunno, at one point Yonghwa had 2 stalkers 1 zealot and a msc vs 16marines 4marauders he should of been dead with less than half the army supply all the while churning out every upgrade possible (except storm) just felt incredibly frustrating to watch
Was it actually that? Cause Flash can just kill him if he has that lol
He went literally blink, robo bay and forge on 1 gateway.
Maybe Flash could've tried running up a ramp but a single hidden sentry would've prevented that.
Then why is everyone complaining lol.. I know everyone hates the MSC but if he has one gate you can kill him x]..
Any decent Terran knows Flash played too safe and scared. In game 2 he could of just moved back after sniping the 3rd and sniping the Templar Archives and get ahead even more. Instead he pulls scvs? didnt make sense. Flash showed he is still has worked to do.
On January 16 2014 18:40 XPA wrote: Seriously I don´t like TvP at all, but you can´t balance whine after this game...Yes, losing your Temlar Tech doesn´t matter that much, when he sends SCVs in your Colossus fire. Plus YongHwa was going for more Colossus than normal. And behind that Flashs Macro was terrible. Just before the game ended he had like 35 SCVs.
On January 16 2014 18:37 MisterTea wrote: I dunno, at one point Yonghwa had 2 stalkers 1 zealot and a msc vs 16marines 4marauders he should of been dead with less than half the army supply all the while churning out every upgrade possible (except storm) just felt incredibly frustrating to watch
Was it actually that? Cause Flash can just kill him if he has that lol
He went literally blink, robo bay and forge on 1 gateway.
Maybe Flash could've tried running up a ramp but a single hidden sentry would've prevented that.
Then why is everyone complaining lol.. I know everyone hates the MSC but if he has one gate you can kill him x]..
On January 16 2014 18:37 MisterTea wrote: I dunno, at one point Yonghwa had 2 stalkers 1 zealot and a msc vs 16marines 4marauders he should of been dead with less than half the army supply all the while churning out every upgrade possible (except storm) just felt incredibly frustrating to watch
Was it actually that? Cause Flash can just kill him if he has that lol
He went literally blink, robo bay and forge on 1 gateway.
Maybe Flash could've tried running up a ramp but a single hidden sentry would've prevented that.
Then why is everyone complaining lol.. I know everyone hates the MSC but if he has one gate you can kill him x]..
that was a bad throw but flash was heavily behind in upgrades. second scv pull pretty much confirmed the throw though. after taking out the 3rd, flash could have just done drops into the main and doing multi prong attacks to wear down yonghwa. I think Flash has a mental block against P since he has not been doing so well vs P. We will see how his other matches play out and I sure hope that he does not meet Yonghwa again.
On January 16 2014 18:43 Parcelleus wrote: So many average Terrans in this thread.
any decent Terran knows Flash played to safe and scared. In game 2 he could of just moved back after sniping the 3rd and sniping the Templar Archives and get ahead even more. Instead he pulls scvs? didnt make sense. Flash showed he is still has worked to do.
WP Yonghwa.
he hadn't an armory nor a snd ebay. You're not even average but largely below it if you think he was that ahead after the double snipe. He had to hit a timing before 3/3, missed it, gg.
On January 16 2014 18:35 Fjodorov wrote: was like 180 vs 140 supply in that last fight with scv pull and NO storm. And somehow Yonghwa won... Comparing g1 and g2 and comeback potentials its quite clear how this matchup works. Yonghwa didnt even have best comeback weapon , Storm
upgrades are even better.
Well, see, thats one of my beefs with the matchup to be honest. When Terran is ahead on upgrades they can still get rolled. But if it is the other way around I don't think the Terran ever wins.
I don't think you have any evidence to support that, since Terran is NEVER ahead on upgrades if the game isn't already over.
it is when the P all in and you survive without being able to kill him. But storms and archons don't give a fuck about upgrades anyway.
well, that's why it's called allin. The game isn't even after that. It may not be over, but you are way ahead. And you won't find a Protoss that has a purely Storm/Archon army from that situation. Most of his stuff would still benefit greatly from upgrades.
On January 16 2014 18:43 Parcelleus wrote: So many average Terrans in this thread.
Any decent Terran knows Flash played to safe and scared. In game 2 he could of just moved back after sniping the 3rd and sniping the Templar Archives and get ahead even more. Instead he pulls scvs? didnt make sense. Flash showed he is still has worked to do.
WP Yonghwa.
He was too far behind in upgrades to play into the late game.. Couldn't afford armory and 2/2 after he crippled his econ with the first attack.
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