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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 06 2013 21:44 GMT
#2421
On December 07 2013 06:43 Hider wrote:
Have to admit I am getting a bit tired of watching these TvZ's. Too many games just go like this: Terran doesn't do damage early game --> Zerg steamrolls terran in the midgame.

Either a larva nerf needs to happen or terran AOE needs a significant buff, because this doesn't feel fair.

Show nested quote +
Is my idea or jjakji splitting is very bad???


Splitting didn't matter at the end. He was just hopelessly outnumered.


He mismanaged his units terribly with his first 2medivac attack. At top level thats all it takes, one big mistake. Same in any sport really
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
December 06 2013 21:45 GMT
#2422
On December 07 2013 06:43 TheAnarchy wrote:
Is my idea or jjakji splitting is very bad???


Koreans usually think that they don't need to split against foreigners
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 06 2013 21:45 GMT
#2423
On December 07 2013 06:43 Hider wrote:
Have to admit I am getting a bit tired of watching these TvZ's (scarlett vs jjaki g2). Too many games just go like this: Terran doesn't do damage early game --> Zerg steamrolls terran in the midgame.

Either a larva nerf needs to happen or terran AOE needs a significant buff, in order to create more back and fourth games.

Show nested quote +
Is my idea or jjakji splitting is very bad???


Splitting didn't matter at the end. He was just hopelessly outnumered.

Oh come on, its not a week ago a Terran won a major tournament. Do we really want to give Taeja buffs?
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 21:46:49
December 06 2013 21:45 GMT
#2424
jjakji is just worse in TvZ than scarlett is in ZvT
thats why it looks bad


Yeh if he had lost in a longer game that would be fine. But there was no real reason for such a dominance. It was just a bit of early game action where he didn't even trade particualarly bad --> Into a big "deathball" attack by Scarlett which absolutely owned Jjiaki.

He mismanaged his units terribly with his first 2medivac attack. At top level thats all it takes, one big mistake. Same in any sport really


Sligthly indeed, however he still trade somewhat evenly. And my point is that if those kind of engagements simply outright loses you the game in tvz, then the game is flawed.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 06 2013 21:46 GMT
#2425
wow I thought those mines were going to blow up all the mutas but I guess they got away just in time
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Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
December 06 2013 21:46 GMT
#2426
Vortix sure does love his mutalisks.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
December 06 2013 21:46 GMT
#2427
On December 07 2013 06:45 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
jjakji is just worse in TvZ than scarlett is in ZvT
thats why it looks bad


Yeh if he had lost in a longer game that would be fine. But there was no real reason for such a dominance. It was just a bit of early game action where he didn't even trade particualarly bad --> Into a big "deathball" attack by Scarlett which absolutely owned Jjiaki.

Well to be fair he also lost quite a bit of his material in an attack...
16 marines + like 6 hellions + a medivac or two + ~2 mines for not huge damage.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 06 2013 21:46 GMT
#2428
Moderatorlickypiddy
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
December 06 2013 21:46 GMT
#2429
On December 07 2013 06:46 Swiipii wrote:
Vortix sure does love his mutalisks.


not so sure about that. He sure likes to send them to certain death a lot

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 06 2013 21:46 GMT
#2430
On December 07 2013 06:45 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 06:43 TheAnarchy wrote:
Is my idea or jjakji splitting is very bad???


Koreans usually think that they don't need to split against foreigners

Foreigner banelings do less damage than Korean banelings, it is well established.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
December 06 2013 21:47 GMT
#2431
If you see bomber, taeja, innovation or maru spletting and then you see jjakji is like meh xD
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 06 2013 21:47 GMT
#2432
On December 07 2013 06:45 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
jjakji is just worse in TvZ than scarlett is in ZvT
thats why it looks bad


Yeh if he had lost in a longer game that would be fine. But there was no real reason for such a dominance. It was just a bit of early game action where he didn't even trade particualarly bad --> Into a big "deathball" attack by Scarlett which absolutely owned Jjiaki.


I was watching both games going on atm but didnt jjakji delay his third and upgrades alot to do a 2 medivac 16 marine + hellions attack that failed terribly?
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
December 06 2013 21:48 GMT
#2433
Well to be fair he also lost quite a bit of his material in an attack...
16 marines + like 6 hellions + a medivac or two + ~2 mines for not huge damage.


Point is this: If you do an early pressure attack which is something we want to see cus it creates a more exciting specatator experience and let's say you trade marginally inefficient. Maybe at 80% relative to your opponent. Should that really outright lose you the game?

Wouldn't it be better if it just put you in a 45-55% spot?
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 06 2013 21:48 GMT
#2434
Ugh, this map again, can't they just reuse a good map from WoL or something instead.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 06 2013 21:48 GMT
#2435
On December 07 2013 06:46 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/TwitchTVSupport/status/409075919173611521


When things supposedly couldn't get worse
AdministratorBreak the chains
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 06 2013 21:48 GMT
#2436
MMA vs. Vortix is awesome for you fools glued to the main stream.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
December 06 2013 21:48 GMT
#2437
On December 07 2013 06:39 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 06:35 WigglingSquid wrote:
On December 07 2013 06:33 DJHelium wrote:
On December 07 2013 06:32 Muffloe wrote:
On December 07 2013 06:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I am be sure that ASUS ROG is not smiling right now. Will they sponsor NorthCon in the future? I dont think so..

So its NorthCon fuking up, I thought it was the weather


Scarlett tweeted that there's 3k people on one internet connection. Kinda bad no matter what weather

"One internet connection" doesn't mean very much, but I'll trust her on the issues being on the network side.

Even if you have a 500/500 Internet connection because Europe is awesome, 3K people (let's say 500 online at once) is still a lot, especially when you also have to stream on Twitch or however they're getting content out.


Dreamhack uses 120 000 as their internet speed. There are several cities that serve 1 000 for private people. 500/500 sounds like a drop in the sea for a LAN or similar event.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 21:50:05
December 06 2013 21:49 GMT
#2438
MMA holding on in supply! You can do iiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

Sick sick sick and he has his 5th!
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 06 2013 21:49 GMT
#2439
Wp vortix
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 06 2013 21:49 GMT
#2440
Oh hey this is one of my 8 all-ins I use in ZvP.
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