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On December 07 2013 06:43 Hider wrote:Have to admit I am getting a bit tired of watching these TvZ's. Too many games just go like this: Terran doesn't do damage early game --> Zerg steamrolls terran in the midgame. Either a larva nerf needs to happen or terran AOE needs a significant buff, because this doesn't feel fair. Splitting didn't matter at the end. He was just hopelessly outnumered.
He mismanaged his units terribly with his first 2medivac attack. At top level thats all it takes, one big mistake. Same in any sport really
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On December 07 2013 06:43 TheAnarchy wrote: Is my idea or jjakji splitting is very bad???
Koreans usually think that they don't need to split against foreigners
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On December 07 2013 06:43 Hider wrote:Have to admit I am getting a bit tired of watching these TvZ's (scarlett vs jjaki g2). Too many games just go like this: Terran doesn't do damage early game --> Zerg steamrolls terran in the midgame. Either a larva nerf needs to happen or terran AOE needs a significant buff, in order to create more back and fourth games. Splitting didn't matter at the end. He was just hopelessly outnumered. Oh come on, its not a week ago a Terran won a major tournament. Do we really want to give Taeja buffs?
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jjakji is just worse in TvZ than scarlett is in ZvT thats why it looks bad
Yeh if he had lost in a longer game that would be fine. But there was no real reason for such a dominance. It was just a bit of early game action where he didn't even trade particualarly bad --> Into a big "deathball" attack by Scarlett which absolutely owned Jjiaki.
He mismanaged his units terribly with his first 2medivac attack. At top level thats all it takes, one big mistake. Same in any sport really
Sligthly indeed, however he still trade somewhat evenly. And my point is that if those kind of engagements simply outright loses you the game in tvz, then the game is flawed.
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United States97274 Posts
wow I thought those mines were going to blow up all the mutas but I guess they got away just in time
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Vortix sure does love his mutalisks.
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On December 07 2013 06:45 Hider wrote:Yeh if he had lost in a longer game that would be fine. But there was no real reason for such a dominance. It was just a bit of early game action where he didn't even trade particualarly bad --> Into a big "deathball" attack by Scarlett which absolutely owned Jjiaki. Well to be fair he also lost quite a bit of his material in an attack... 16 marines + like 6 hellions + a medivac or two + ~2 mines for not huge damage.
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Canada16217 Posts
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On December 07 2013 06:46 Swiipii wrote: Vortix sure does love his mutalisks.
not so sure about that. He sure likes to send them to certain death a lot
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On December 07 2013 06:45 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 06:43 TheAnarchy wrote: Is my idea or jjakji splitting is very bad??? Koreans usually think that they don't need to split against foreigners Foreigner banelings do less damage than Korean banelings, it is well established.
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If you see bomber, taeja, innovation or maru spletting and then you see jjakji is like meh xD
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On December 07 2013 06:45 Hider wrote:Yeh if he had lost in a longer game that would be fine. But there was no real reason for such a dominance. It was just a bit of early game action where he didn't even trade particualarly bad --> Into a big "deathball" attack by Scarlett which absolutely owned Jjiaki.
I was watching both games going on atm but didnt jjakji delay his third and upgrades alot to do a 2 medivac 16 marine + hellions attack that failed terribly?
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Well to be fair he also lost quite a bit of his material in an attack... 16 marines + like 6 hellions + a medivac or two + ~2 mines for not huge damage.
Point is this: If you do an early pressure attack which is something we want to see cus it creates a more exciting specatator experience and let's say you trade marginally inefficient. Maybe at 80% relative to your opponent. Should that really outright lose you the game?
Wouldn't it be better if it just put you in a 45-55% spot?
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Ugh, this map again, can't they just reuse a good map from WoL or something instead.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
When things supposedly couldn't get worse
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United States23455 Posts
MMA vs. Vortix is awesome for you fools glued to the main stream.
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On December 07 2013 06:39 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 06:35 WigglingSquid wrote:On December 07 2013 06:33 DJHelium wrote:On December 07 2013 06:32 Muffloe wrote:On December 07 2013 06:31 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I am be sure that ASUS ROG is not smiling right now. Will they sponsor NorthCon in the future? I dont think so.. So its NorthCon fuking up, I thought it was the weather Scarlett tweeted that there's 3k people on one internet connection. Kinda bad no matter what weather  "One internet connection" doesn't mean very much, but I'll trust her on the issues being on the network side. Even if you have a 500/500 Internet connection because Europe is awesome, 3K people (let's say 500 online at once) is still a lot, especially when you also have to stream on Twitch or however they're getting content out.
Dreamhack uses 120 000 as their internet speed. There are several cities that serve 1 000 for private people. 500/500 sounds like a drop in the sea for a LAN or similar event.
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MMA holding on in supply! You can do iiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!
Sick sick sick and he has his 5th!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Oh hey this is one of my 8 all-ins I use in ZvP.
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