EPT[GSTL] Grand Finals Azubu vs AxA Match 2 Season 2 - Page 16
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JustPassingBy
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sharkie
Austria18564 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:42 Undead1993 wrote: we just saw ragnarok getting brutalized by speed medivacs and you say these times are over, yes guys mma lost but it's not time for a balance debate yet, things need to get figured out first before talking about possible changes AGAIN. the problem is zergs were figuring out how to beat terrans and widowmines - we had a nice balance coming and then blizzard comes and nerfs terrans lol | ||
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ETisME
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WigglingSquid
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:45 ETisME wrote: i love how the terran starts complaining when MMA loses a game and then didn't say anything when MMA torn Ragnarok apart Why would Terran players complain about MMA winning? | ||
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HeadlessWonder
United States1096 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:45 ETisME wrote: i love how the terran starts complaining when MMA loses a game and then didn't say anything when MMA torn Ragnarok apart I pretty much agree with this. MMA murders Ragnarok and 5 pages of MMA=God MMA loses and 5 pages of omg T is broken. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:45 ETisME wrote: i love how the terran starts complaining when MMA loses a game and then didn't say anything when MMA torn Ragnarok apart Says the guy who used to moan about pre-patch Mines in like half of his posts? | ||
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Swiipii
2195 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:45 blackone wrote: Why would Terran players complain about MMA winning? Yeah man why being objective on the internet for once. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:45 ETisME wrote: i love how the terran starts complaining when MMA loses a game and then didn't say anything when MMA torn Ragnarok apart Most people are not compiling but discussing where the game went wrong. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:45 ETisME wrote: i love how the terran starts complaining when MMA loses a game and then didn't say anything when MMA torn Ragnarok apart First of all, I said brilliant game by MMA but to be honest saturating 4 base from RagnaroK were quiet optimistic before teching to mutas. If the Terran gets your spire timing and you allow him to have 4 medivacs full of units + 3rd base before building your first muta, obviously drop harass will deal damage. Nonetheless it was the insane multitasking (aka macro behind that) that allowed MMA to win. You show us one map win for Terran which was overwhelming, we can show you a lot of recent ZvT that all looked like there were no widowmines to begin with and Zerg rolled over Terran. | ||
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ETisME
12632 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:46 TheDwf wrote: Says the guy who used to moan about pre-patch Mines in like half of his posts? I guess we are all the same afterall, no? | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:46 Swiipii wrote: Yeah man why being objective on the internet for once. So being objective means you have to complain whenever a Terran wins? | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:44 sharkie wrote: the problem is zergs were figuring out how to beat terrans and widowmines - we had a nice balance coming and then blizzard comes and nerfs terrans lol As Inno was saying before, even pre-patch widow mines would be becoming useless against top mechanical player (since they are not counter-microable to negate the splitting of zerg and thus once zerg starts taking correct engagements balance of force moves over to zerg). I do not like to bash Blizzard, but gotta agree that Blizzard's balance team pulled off a miracle: they made situation unsolveable. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:43 Squat wrote: Nerfing muta speed would make it stupidly easy for phoenix to shut down mutas in ZvP, which is one of a grand total of 2 good options zerg have in that match up right now. I think just making some bad terran units less bad is a better approach. Thing is, balance is so razor thin you can't make bad terran units into good units without potentially messing up the balance in other MUs. Like say, if you just wanted to make tanks good in TvZ to compensate for the WM nerf and also to compensate for all the disadvantages tanks have, like can't shoot up, expensive, slow etc, you'd have to apply a ridiculous buff like say 10-20 more flat out damage or 1.0 less attack speed, and we all know those changes would be huge in other MUs and would potentially make bio extinct in TvT. Mutas are kind of a problem in both ZvT and ZvP, the best approach would be a nerf to them in either regen or speed or a bit of both. And if phoenix are a problem just a slight tuning of phoenix. Anyway, excuse me for going so off topic in a LR thread, it shall be my last. Go go Alicia! | ||
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mongoose22
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GunPaladin
United States1205 Posts
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
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vflux
New Zealand118 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:45 ETisME wrote: i love how the terran starts complaining when MMA loses a game and then didn't say anything when MMA torn Ragnarok apart MMA tearing Ragnarok apart is to be expected. MMA should not lose to BB. | ||
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Swiipii
2195 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:47 blackone wrote: So being objective means you have to complain whenever a Terran wins? No that means stop being a whiny prick whenever my race loses a game. Terran has been winning the vast majority of premier tournament. But when you read some people here it's like we're in the BL/infestor area again and that Terran can't do anything. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On November 23 2013 19:49 vflux wrote: MMA tearing Ragnarok apart is to be expected. MMA should not lose to BB. MMA should not lose to random Korean that is pretty darn good in team leagues? Who told you that? | ||
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