I'm a huge Life fan and all but imo ZvT is in a horrible situation right now. Terrans are struggling so much after the mine nerf (and even before it).

I want to get more excited for this win but I just can't.

I really really hope terran just need to figure something out and that this isn't a straight up balance problem (kinda like ZvT looked in early HoTS when zergs just died but other way around).

GumBa

United Kingdom31935 Posts

November 23 2013 22:36 GMT

#114

On November 24 2013 07:34 Keeemy wrote:
I'm a huge Life fan and all but imo ZvT is in a horrible situation right now. Terrans are struggling so much after the mine nerf (and even before it).

I want to get more excited for this win but I just can't.

See I respect life aswell always have always will but that win was just meh sry life fan blizzard bungeld hard with the nerf.
Problem is Blizz nerfed mines without giving something as compensation...

DiMano

Korea (South)2066 Posts

November 23 2013 22:42 GMT

#115

Life played VERY greedy build all 3 games, look at the game 2 and see how it can be easily punished. Also INnoVation made no harrasment with hellions and let Life be unpunished on 4 bases. I really hate that majority people on TL can not look and enjoy the game anymore.

GumBa

United Kingdom31935 Posts

November 23 2013 22:43 GMT

#116

I love sc2 and Life didnt play bad but if even Inno doesnt build mines thats saying something...

TheDwf

France19747 Posts

November 23 2013 23:20 GMT

#117

On November 24 2013 07:42 DiMano wrote:
Life played VERY greedy build all 3 games, look at the game 2 and see how it can be easily punished. Also INnoVation made no harrasment with hellions and let Life be unpunished on 4 bases. I really hate that majority people on TL can not look and enjoy the game anymore.

There was no "greed" in the last game...

On November 24 2013 07:43 GumBa wrote:
I love sc2 and Life didnt play bad but if even Inno doesnt build mines thats saying something...

He should have tried 4M + Thors, bio/Thors just gets run over too easily. Sure the weakened Mines aren't hot at all, but without AoE it's simply impossible.

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

November 23 2013 23:26 GMT

#118

How did ForGG beat Life? o.O

sitromit

7051 Posts

November 23 2013 23:33 GMT

#119

Lol at the overreaction. The Widow Mine nerf is the smallest nerf in the history of all Blizzard nerfs and there've been plenty of games since the patch where standard bio/mine looked just as strong as ever. Did no one watch HSC? Jesus...

I don't know why Innovation isn't building mines, but they seem to be working just fine for Taeja.

sitromit

7051 Posts

November 23 2013 23:41 GMT

#120

On November 24 2013 08:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
How did ForGG beat Life? o.O

Game 1 Life did a bad Ling/Bane all in that didn't do enough damage, fell behind, eventually got overrun. Game 3 Life did a proxy hatch, was ahead, the only way he could lose was to Cloaked Banshees, which he strangely didn't prepare for, so he lost a lot of Drones, which allowed ForGG to catch up and build a lot of Hellions, which Life didn't have enough economy to hold off. He ran them into Life's base and killed everything.