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HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
November 24 2013 02:16 GMT
#2401
As a Terran player I have no idea what Zerg is supposed to do against void rays
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
November 24 2013 02:16 GMT
#2402
On November 24 2013 11:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 11:14 stuchiu wrote:
On November 24 2013 11:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
MC WHY DON'T YOU EVER BLOCK YOUR CHOKE WITH A ZEALOT.


Cause no lasers.


I wish void rays could land like vikings...


Combine void rays with collies pleaseeee
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
November 24 2013 02:17 GMT
#2403
Maybe a bit late on that one but:
How is it possible that so many Hydras get owned by Void Rays? Can somebody explain that ? Ok Hyun couldnt move his Hydras under the VRs cause of timewarp but still...
Extreme Force
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 24 2013 02:17 GMT
#2404
tb just explained it
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
November 24 2013 02:18 GMT
#2405
A big factor is that all the voids are attacking the whole fight and hydras are stuck in the back. Still a bit surprising.

What were the upgrades on voids and hydras also?
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 24 2013 02:18 GMT
#2406
On November 24 2013 11:18 HardCorey wrote:
A big factor is that all the voids are attacking the whole fight and hydras are stuck in the back. Still a bit surprising.

What were the upgrades on voids and hydras also?


Hydras was 2-0 I think, voids 1-0 or 1-1.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
November 24 2013 02:18 GMT
#2407
On November 24 2013 11:17 Tresher wrote:
Maybe a bit late on that one but:
How is it possible that so many Hydras get owned by Void Rays? Can somebody explain that ? Ok Hyun couldnt move his Hydras under the VRs cause of timewarp but still...


Lol, what's there to explain unless you're a twitch chat bronzie? Voidrays cost almost 3x more than hydras and they had ground support eating up shots. MC was ahead teh entire game.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 02:20:00
November 24 2013 02:19 GMT
#2408
tb just explained it

He was talking about a situation where Oracles were involved -_- .
Extreme Force
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 24 2013 02:19 GMT
#2409
On November 24 2013 11:19 Tresher wrote:
He was talking about a situation where Oracles were involved -_- .

no he said you need infestors to deal with mass vr why would you even expect mass hydra to win against mass vrs wtf
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
November 24 2013 02:20 GMT
#2410
"I think tomorrow is a new day" -DjWheat 2013
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
November 24 2013 02:21 GMT
#2411
Besides Scarlett vs Bomber, are there any recommended matches from day 1?
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 24 2013 02:23 GMT
#2412
On November 24 2013 11:21 juicyjames wrote:
Besides Scarlett vs Bomber, are there any recommended matches from day 1?

i would say parting vs bomber was an entertaining series except game three
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 24 2013 02:23 GMT
#2413
On November 24 2013 11:21 juicyjames wrote:
Besides Scarlett vs Bomber, are there any recommended matches from day 1?

Bomber vs Parting
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 24 2013 02:23 GMT
#2414
On November 24 2013 11:21 juicyjames wrote:
Besides Scarlett vs Bomber, are there any recommended matches from day 1?

bomber vs parting
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2013 02:26 GMT
#2415
On November 24 2013 11:19 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 11:19 Tresher wrote:
He was talking about a situation where Oracles were involved -_- .

no he said you need infestors to deal with mass vr why would you even expect mass hydra to win against mass vrs wtf


Well because the game says so . If you check hydras ingame, you will see that the are supposed to be strong against Void Rays. A t2 AA unit beating a t2 air unit makes sense imo. I think it's stupid you need 2 techs to deal with only Voidrays. I'm not saying Hyun should've won here or anything, just that in general the way Voidrays vs Hydras work is stupid. I think mass hydras should totally destroy mass Voidrays, it's the intended counter.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
November 24 2013 02:26 GMT
#2416
On November 24 2013 11:18 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 11:17 Tresher wrote:
Maybe a bit late on that one but:
How is it possible that so many Hydras get owned by Void Rays? Can somebody explain that ? Ok Hyun couldnt move his Hydras under the VRs cause of timewarp but still...


Lol, what's there to explain unless you're a twitch chat bronzie? Voidrays cost almost 3x more than hydras and they had ground support eating up shots. MC was ahead teh entire game.

No need to league flame. And by your logic BCs should rape everything, yet they are shot down by marines ,hydras, stalkers basiclly everything that hits air.
Infestors help but still. And what has it to do with MC being ahead? Oh Im ahead so my marines are invincible against banes...(Irony off)
Extreme Force
de1irium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States121 Posts
November 24 2013 02:28 GMT
#2417
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 24 2013 02:29 GMT
#2418
zerg doesnt really have a good anti air unit. Corrupters are the worse. Queens with tranfuse can work if the number of VR is less than 10+ but once there is a mass of VR, only if you perpemantly chain fungal them out of range of anything and the toss doesnt just feedback/storm you to death.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 24 2013 02:32 GMT
#2419
On November 24 2013 11:29 Sub40APM wrote:
zerg doesnt really have a good anti air unit. Corrupters are the worse. Queens with tranfuse can work if the number of VR is less than 10+ but once there is a mass of VR, only if you perpemantly chain fungal them out of range of anything and the toss doesnt just feedback/storm you to death.

I'd like to see another anti-air unit for zerg. I wouldn't mind if corrupter was re-designed so it's more flashy/less boring?
Moderatorlickypiddy
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 24 2013 02:34 GMT
#2420
On November 24 2013 11:32 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 11:29 Sub40APM wrote:
zerg doesnt really have a good anti air unit. Corrupters are the worse. Queens with tranfuse can work if the number of VR is less than 10+ but once there is a mass of VR, only if you perpemantly chain fungal them out of range of anything and the toss doesnt just feedback/storm you to death.

I'd like to see another anti-air unit for zerg. I wouldn't mind if corrupter was re-designed so it's more flashy/less boring?


Yeah I hope they do that, it was requested so often already. They are so boring and often ineffective. Like a targetable suicide option vs air units (no splash) or something.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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