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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 19:32:11
November 16 2013 19:31 GMT
#1621
ooh not scouting this time apparently :o

scouting the gate that is
jjakji fan
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 16 2013 19:31 GMT
#1622
On November 17 2013 04:23 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:17 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:14 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:11 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:39 iSunrise wrote:
[quote]
Looks like I have a perfectly valid point, otherwise you guys wouldn´t have given up to argue against it.


Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not?


...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).

I have provided an explanation. ToD had units to kill Happy, but Happy used the map to hide the units. Even if ToD had an army of 200 left (but no air units), he could not have killed Happy.

So you consider that fair?

The only issue is when ToD doesn't defend his bases. Why should happy be forced to straight up defend if ToD isn't either?

Well, if he did that, the outcome would have been pretty clear.
Jevity
Profile Joined August 2012
United States67 Posts
November 16 2013 19:32 GMT
#1623
Wise words from Stephano:
"Don't try to find the purpose of life-- because there is none."
Shame is a silly emotion. Don't succumb to it. - Artosis
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 16 2013 19:32 GMT
#1624
On November 17 2013 04:30 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:28 Sly Faux wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:26 Everlong wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:23 Sly Faux wrote:
Listening to Stephano cast this Socke v Hyun game makes me realize how much SC2 needs Stephano's thinking in the meta game.


You don't want more 1h Swarm Host boring games, sorry..


He was just having fun.

Him having fun and 30k+ viewers being bored ~_~


I had fun with him, while the B-Stream was running
keglu
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland485 Posts
November 16 2013 19:32 GMT
#1625
On November 17 2013 04:23 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:20 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:17 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:14 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:11 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not?


...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).

I have provided an explanation. ToD had units to kill Happy, but Happy used the map to hide the units. Even if ToD had an army of 200 left (but no air), he could not have killed Happy.

So you consider that fair?

Imaginary situation:

ToD has no Nexus left, 45 minerals, 40 Probes and 50 Zealots.
Happy has one flying rax and one Banshee left.

Discuss the fairness of the situation.

That´s an easy one. They have to play until the banshee kills every unit ToD has left, instead of hiding. Happy wins. No arguments. All fair.


No they don't, You are confusing games i think.

Also ToD should fully all in every game, past 15 minutes he has no idea how to play this matchup.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:32 GMT
#1626
wut jjakji?!

ToD mindgamesssssssssss
jjakji fan
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
November 16 2013 19:32 GMT
#1627
homestory cup is most entertaining tournament in sc2 and stephano/incontrol and all the other guys are bringing so much of good spirit in game and around it.. great work, tournament format etc, keep it on!
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#1628
Trololololol, jjiakji so unucky it's almost not funny... almost...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#1629
Tod's probe at his own natural might win the game. Sick mindgames!

And Happy Birthday Novemberst0rm!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#1630
LMAO
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#1631
On November 17 2013 04:31 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:23 bourne117 wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:17 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:14 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:11 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:08 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:04 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 04:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:57 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

Oh, the whole "you're arguing with me so I'm right"-thing again. It doesn't work like that tt

It´s not about if I´m right. There was just nothing that seems to refute what I said. Which in my world makes it a valid point. Nothing more, nothing less.


That's because you said nothing. You have stated something that can be done in the game. You have never explained to us why that would be unfair, it's just obvious in your head because you don't like it.

Look, I don't think blink is fair, because no other races can do it. Refute that!

It was about the map, not the ability that buildings are able to fly. Learn to read first, then we can talk about the actual topic.


You do realize that it's the same thing, right?

You do realize that it´s not?


...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).

I have provided an explanation. ToD had units to kill Happy, but Happy used the map to hide the units. Even if ToD had an army of 200 left (but no air units), he could not have killed Happy.

So you consider that fair?

The only issue is when ToD doesn't defend his bases. Why should happy be forced to straight up defend if ToD isn't either?

Well, if he did that, the outcome would have been pretty clear.

Yeah a draw. Happy can't defend but ToD doesn't either. Why is that unfair? And that is exactly what happened. The only reason this happened is because he lost all his Nexi. If he keeps just one he wins the game every time.
QO Feasting
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#1632
bunker complete! :D

CC in the making too :D
jjakji fan
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#1633
ToD fkkkkk
It appears I have been chosen.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#1634
Tod. Really.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#1635
Easy hold despite the worst case scenario.
hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
November 16 2013 19:34 GMT
#1636
And he still hold without any problem... this guy is so good.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
November 16 2013 19:34 GMT
#1637
Jjakji handled that perfectly
Hello
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 16 2013 19:34 GMT
#1638
cheese all day cheese all night
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
November 16 2013 19:34 GMT
#1639
Once again ToD gets a perfect BO vs BO and still somehow manages to fuck up.
hundred thousand krouner
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 19:34 GMT
#1640
WUT salvaged the bunker??? lol riskyyy
jjakji fan
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