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On October 28 2013 03:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:03 Pandain wrote:
I dislike people who say Oz threw the game; do you know how hard it is to play it from there?
Like he was defending his 5th base which was his really only, he had so many priorities he had to do; it was more Soulkey exploiting any mistakes Oz made then Oz just throwing the game. What mistakes were SK exploiting exactly? Sitting and watching how your 2 bases dies to ling run-bys and doing completely nothing, getting back from 4 Corruptors, and then blinking in against 200 population Swarm Hosts and Brood Lord army definitely wasn't SK playing the great game, but Oz having really bad decision making. I am the first guy here that dislikes the word "throw", but seriously, if something was a throw, this game was.
OZ was out of position trying to find Soulkey's army which he really needed to find and kill since he was exploiting the slow mobility of Soulkey.
Soulkey finding vulnerable stargates in the main and getting the corruptors.
Forcing OZ into a bad engagement.
How did OZ throw it? In no way can you say it was more Oz losing then Soulkey playing brilliantly.
edit: The bad blink doesn't matter, he really had already lost and it was going to be the tempests + storms vs corruptors which were the big thing.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 28 2013 03:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:09 stuchiu wrote:On October 28 2013 03:08 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 28 2013 03:08 stuchiu wrote:
PvZ is Oz's best matchup? DID YOU NOT SEE HIM KICK DEAR'S ASS IN PVP??? He said PvP is his best matchup... LISTENING SKILLS STUCHIU He said PvZ though!? No. He said PvP.
Oh oops, I've made a mistake. Carry on.
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On October 28 2013 03:06 packrat386 wrote:0:00 Oz is at the top Soulkey (SK) is at the bottom
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nothing interesting yet
pylon in the nat for Oz
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pool first for SK
nexus first for Oz
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forge at the nat going down
nat hatch is down for SK
4 lings ready to chase out the scouting probe
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lings are harassing the wall for oz
SK is getting his third hatch now
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On October 28 2013 03:06 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:06 robson1 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:05 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Nauseam wrote:
Who needs income when you have free units eh? Tempests have free ammo, must be OP as well. how is that even remotely comparable. Yeah, you can kill bullets of SHs.
you're trolling right?
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On October 28 2013 03:09 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:08 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 28 2013 03:08 stuchiu wrote:
PvZ is Oz's best matchup? DID YOU NOT SEE HIM KICK DEAR'S ASS IN PVP??? He said PvP is his best matchup... LISTENING SKILLS STUCHIU He said PvZ though!?
He said "Oz's late game PvP decision making is really good, by far his best matchup. Against Terran and Zerg he has cool builds but struggles w/ late game decision making" he said PvP man I'm sure.
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On October 28 2013 03:09 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:08 Sabu113 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 robson1 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:05 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Nauseam wrote:
Who needs income when you have free units eh? Tempests have free ammo, must be OP as well. how is that even remotely comparable. Yeah, you can kill bullets of SHs. This conversation is painful. Almost as painful as Broodlord/infestor. Yeah, pure festor is much better. NSHS_Freaky approves
"The artist who painted only with one color."
one of the most poetic things i have read on TL.
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On October 28 2013 03:09 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Pandain wrote:
I dislike people who say Oz threw the game; do you know how hard it is to play it from there?
Like he was defending his 5th base which was his really only, he had so many priorities he had to do; it was more Soulkey exploiting any mistakes Oz made then Oz just throwing the game. What mistakes were SK exploiting exactly? Sitting and watching how your 2 bases dies to ling run-bys and doing completely nothing, getting back from 4 Corruptors, and then blinking in against 200 population Swarm Hosts and Brood Lord army definitely wasn't SK playing the great game, but Oz having really bad decision making. I am the first guy here that dislikes the word "throw", but seriously, if something was a throw, this game was. OZ was out of position trying to find Soulkey's army which he really needed to find and kill since he was exploiting the slow mobility of Soulkey. Soulkey finding vulnerable stargates in the main and getting the corruptors. Forcing OZ into a bad engagement. How did OZ throw it? In no way can you say it was more Oz losing then Soulkey playing brilliantly.
oz knew corruptor was only anti air... he should fight the corruptor with storm and blink stalker help and let tempest clean up
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On October 28 2013 03:09 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:06 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 robson1 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:05 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Nauseam wrote:
Who needs income when you have free units eh? Tempests have free ammo, must be OP as well. how is that even remotely comparable. Yeah, you can kill bullets of SHs. you're trolling right?
Yeah.
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Who's Day9's current casting partner?
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On October 28 2013 03:09 vesicular wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:07 Topdoller wrote:On October 28 2013 03:05 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Nauseam wrote:
Who needs income when you have free units eh? Tempests have free ammo, must be OP as well. Yeah but ammo, don't have hit points and run around the map Ammo also can't be killed off without doing any damage.
PDD? :p
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On October 28 2013 03:07 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:05 robson1 wrote:
Oz put himself into a good position with that mining base, and then squandered it away when he abandoned the base for no discernible reason.... he had the highground and could have just waited i feel. This. Oz's main advantages were his mining base and soulkey's severe lack of anti-air at the time. For some reason, Oz just gave up both advantages.
He was so indecisive and just putzed around instead of going for the kill. Then at the end he ran around like a chicken without a head and lost his army without putting up much of fight or committing to a base race (that he likely would've won). It was hard to watch.
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On October 28 2013 03:10 mishimaBeef wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:09 Pandain wrote:On October 28 2013 03:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Pandain wrote:
I dislike people who say Oz threw the game; do you know how hard it is to play it from there?
Like he was defending his 5th base which was his really only, he had so many priorities he had to do; it was more Soulkey exploiting any mistakes Oz made then Oz just throwing the game. What mistakes were SK exploiting exactly? Sitting and watching how your 2 bases dies to ling run-bys and doing completely nothing, getting back from 4 Corruptors, and then blinking in against 200 population Swarm Hosts and Brood Lord army definitely wasn't SK playing the great game, but Oz having really bad decision making. I am the first guy here that dislikes the word "throw", but seriously, if something was a throw, this game was. OZ was out of position trying to find Soulkey's army which he really needed to find and kill since he was exploiting the slow mobility of Soulkey. Soulkey finding vulnerable stargates in the main and getting the corruptors. Forcing OZ into a bad engagement. How did OZ throw it? In no way can you say it was more Oz losing then Soulkey playing brilliantly. oz knew corruptor was only anti air... he should fight the corruptor with storm and blink stalker help and let tempest clean up
That's what he was trying to do the whole game, which is why he got out of position for defending the fifth.
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On October 28 2013 03:10 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:09 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:08 Sabu113 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 robson1 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:05 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Nauseam wrote:
Who needs income when you have free units eh? Tempests have free ammo, must be OP as well. how is that even remotely comparable. Yeah, you can kill bullets of SHs. This conversation is painful. Almost as painful as Broodlord/infestor. Yeah, pure festor is much better. NSHS_Freaky approves "The artist who painted only with one color." one of the most poetic things i have read on TL.
All 3 of his games made that top 40 list. Good stuff.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On October 28 2013 03:10 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:09 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:07 Topdoller wrote:On October 28 2013 03:05 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Nauseam wrote:
Who needs income when you have free units eh? Tempests have free ammo, must be OP as well. Yeah but ammo, don't have hit points and run around the map Ammo also can't be killed off without doing any damage. PDD? :p
PvZ.
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On October 28 2013 03:10 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:09 robson1 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 robson1 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:05 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Nauseam wrote:
Who needs income when you have free units eh? Tempests have free ammo, must be OP as well. how is that even remotely comparable. Yeah, you can kill bullets of SHs. you're trolling right? Yeah.
Don't troll me or i'll yank out the genius gifs again xD
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On October 28 2013 03:10 Weirdkid wrote:
Who's Day9's current casting partner?
Gretorp... Terran ex-progamer.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On October 28 2013 03:11 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:10 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:09 robson1 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:06 robson1 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:05 vesicular wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Nauseam wrote:
Who needs income when you have free units eh? Tempests have free ammo, must be OP as well. how is that even remotely comparable. Yeah, you can kill bullets of SHs. you're trolling right? Yeah. Don't troll me or i'll yank out the genius gifs again xD
I like them, actually. So bring on the Naniwa gifs.
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THE IRON WALL HOLD STRONG
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On October 28 2013 03:10 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:10 mishimaBeef wrote:On October 28 2013 03:09 Pandain wrote:On October 28 2013 03:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Pandain wrote:
I dislike people who say Oz threw the game; do you know how hard it is to play it from there?
Like he was defending his 5th base which was his really only, he had so many priorities he had to do; it was more Soulkey exploiting any mistakes Oz made then Oz just throwing the game. What mistakes were SK exploiting exactly? Sitting and watching how your 2 bases dies to ling run-bys and doing completely nothing, getting back from 4 Corruptors, and then blinking in against 200 population Swarm Hosts and Brood Lord army definitely wasn't SK playing the great game, but Oz having really bad decision making. I am the first guy here that dislikes the word "throw", but seriously, if something was a throw, this game was. OZ was out of position trying to find Soulkey's army which he really needed to find and kill since he was exploiting the slow mobility of Soulkey. Soulkey finding vulnerable stargates in the main and getting the corruptors. Forcing OZ into a bad engagement. How did OZ throw it? In no way can you say it was more Oz losing then Soulkey playing brilliantly. oz knew corruptor was only anti air... he should fight the corruptor with storm and blink stalker help and let tempest clean up That's what he was trying to do the whole game, which is why he got out of position for defending the fifth.
game was over when he left the base and let probes die for free
corruptor had to be on front line
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On October 28 2013 03:10 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 03:10 mishimaBeef wrote:On October 28 2013 03:09 Pandain wrote:On October 28 2013 03:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:On October 28 2013 03:03 Pandain wrote:
I dislike people who say Oz threw the game; do you know how hard it is to play it from there?
Like he was defending his 5th base which was his really only, he had so many priorities he had to do; it was more Soulkey exploiting any mistakes Oz made then Oz just throwing the game. What mistakes were SK exploiting exactly? Sitting and watching how your 2 bases dies to ling run-bys and doing completely nothing, getting back from 4 Corruptors, and then blinking in against 200 population Swarm Hosts and Brood Lord army definitely wasn't SK playing the great game, but Oz having really bad decision making. I am the first guy here that dislikes the word "throw", but seriously, if something was a throw, this game was. OZ was out of position trying to find Soulkey's army which he really needed to find and kill since he was exploiting the slow mobility of Soulkey. Soulkey finding vulnerable stargates in the main and getting the corruptors. Forcing OZ into a bad engagement. How did OZ throw it? In no way can you say it was more Oz losing then Soulkey playing brilliantly. oz knew corruptor was only anti air... he should fight the corruptor with storm and blink stalker help and let tempest clean up That's what he was trying to do the whole game, which is why he got out of position for defending the fifth.
This isn't something he could know since he plays differently from other players, but the only way to force the corruptors to get out of position is a base trade.
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