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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
October 26 2013 02:09 GMT
#4461
um I just tuned in. I thought for the life of me that today was Thursday and finals weren't until tommorrow....

FUCKFUCKFUCK

any recommended games/series I should fly through in the VODs?
(>'.')>
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 02:09 GMT
#4462
On October 26 2013 11:08 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I wonder if Incontrol gave everybody a trash talk course before this thing started. What happened to 'i just want to show good games'.

When he tried to coach HerO, HerO just said, "THIRSTY" which looking back on it that is pretty solid trashtalk.
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Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 02:09:24
October 26 2013 02:09 GMT
#4463
On October 26 2013 11:07 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.


It doesn't matter how good storm is, or that Hack made good decisions up to that point. Hack is aware of the existence of storm and therefore the decision to press in with weak units was poor. Whether or not storm is overpowered is besides the point. Hack wasn't forced into a position where his army being stormed was the only thing that could happen. He chose that risk on his own.


And thats why hack brought ghosts and EMPed half the templars before hand. But it doesn't matter because all it takes is 2 storms to completely destroy Terran, where as 2 EMPs with its puny AOE barely scratches Protoss.
griffith.583 (NA)
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 26 2013 02:09 GMT
#4464
Also, I dunno what it is, but between MC, PartinG, Genius, and now Trap...Protoss have the cockiest players by far. Good Toss just love to talk trash. I love it, but I can understand why some hate it.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
October 26 2013 02:09 GMT
#4465
Genius has to get to blizzcon because he never got a chance to defend his title
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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 26 2013 02:09 GMT
#4466
On October 26 2013 11:09 jonich0n wrote:
um I just tuned in. I thought for the life of me that today was Thursday and finals weren't until tommorrow....

FUCKFUCKFUCK

any recommended games/series I should fly through in the VODs?


The series MC and Hack just played was pretty damn good.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 26 2013 02:10 GMT
#4467
On October 26 2013 11:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:08 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I wonder if Incontrol gave everybody a trash talk course before this thing started. What happened to 'i just want to show good games'.

When he tried to coach HerO, HerO just said, "THIRSTY" which looking back on it that is pretty solid trashtalk.

ahahaha i remember that it was so funny at that time
Neosteel Enthusiast
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 02:10 GMT
#4468
On October 26 2013 11:09 Griffith` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:07 Swede wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.


It doesn't matter how good storm is, or that Hack made good decisions up to that point. Hack is aware of the existence of storm and therefore the decision to press in with weak units was poor. Whether or not storm is overpowered is besides the point. Hack wasn't forced into a position where his army being stormed was the only thing that could happen. He chose that risk on his own.


And thats why hack brought ghosts and EMPed half the templars before hand. But it doesn't matter because all it takes is 2 storms to completely destroy Terran, where as 2 EMPs with its puny AOE barely scratches Protoss.

2 EMP's on a clump of templar kills a tosses aoe.
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Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
October 26 2013 02:10 GMT
#4469
On October 26 2013 11:09 jonich0n wrote:
um I just tuned in. I thought for the life of me that today was Thursday and finals weren't until tommorrow....

FUCKFUCKFUCK

any recommended games/series I should fly through in the VODs?

While it was extremely depressing for me, G3 of Polt vs Hack where Polt holds off a proxy 2 rax while going CC first....

...then losing later due to massive brainfart/going full foreigner etc.
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
October 26 2013 02:10 GMT
#4470
On October 26 2013 11:08 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I wonder if Incontrol gave everybody a trash talk course before this thing started. What happened to 'i just want to show good games'.


I just wanna show good games was never Genius' style though lol
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 02:10:52
October 26 2013 02:10 GMT
#4471
On October 26 2013 11:09 Griffith` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:07 Swede wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.


It doesn't matter how good storm is, or that Hack made good decisions up to that point. Hack is aware of the existence of storm and therefore the decision to press in with weak units was poor. Whether or not storm is overpowered is besides the point. Hack wasn't forced into a position where his army being stormed was the only thing that could happen. He chose that risk on his own.


And thats why hack brought ghosts and EMPed half the templars before hand. But it doesn't matter because all it takes is 2 storms to completely destroy Terran, where as 2 EMPs with its puny AOE barely scratches Protoss.


What do you think you're accomplishing exactly by posting 5 whining posts per page about storm in a LR thread on a video game forum?

dealwithit.jpg
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 26 2013 02:10 GMT
#4472
Trap is pretty good at PvP, I expect him to win
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4473
On October 26 2013 11:08 Havik_ wrote:
I haven't been following the meta for a while, but I get the feeling that there will be some kind of Protoss nerf after Blizzcon. I'm getting that feeling. I hope I'm wrong though ().

Its hard to pinpoint what makes Protoss super strong right now though. Maybe the core?
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4474
On October 26 2013 11:05 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.


It only did that because the whole army had 1 hp due to too much stims and no more medivacs because they got sniped earlier.


je and omg stim is a spell ! xD just that it is bloodmagic and drains health. And no MC didn't win because of the storms, he won with the constant Medivac snipe and he also scouted the Starport to see what was coming out there ... once he knew HTs apperead and laughed at the Vikings.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4475
Group B - Winners Match

kr (P)Genius vs kr (P)Trap

Game 1
Map - Belshir Vestige

00:00- Genius Spawns Top Left Trap Spawns Bottom Right

Oh fuck me PvP, this LR is going to be a giant pile of awful,
WINE!
Zerg for Life
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4476
On October 26 2013 11:09 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Also, I dunno what it is, but between MC, PartinG, Genius, and now Trap...Protoss have the cockiest players by far. Good Toss just love to talk trash. I love it, but I can understand why some hate it.

Trap didn't say anything man
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4477
On October 26 2013 11:09 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:09 jonich0n wrote:
um I just tuned in. I thought for the life of me that today was Thursday and finals weren't until tommorrow....

FUCKFUCKFUCK

any recommended games/series I should fly through in the VODs?


The series MC and Hack just played was pretty damn good.


Yep and Maru against soO was really good too
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4478
On October 26 2013 11:10 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:09 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:07 Swede wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.


It doesn't matter how good storm is, or that Hack made good decisions up to that point. Hack is aware of the existence of storm and therefore the decision to press in with weak units was poor. Whether or not storm is overpowered is besides the point. Hack wasn't forced into a position where his army being stormed was the only thing that could happen. He chose that risk on his own.


And thats why hack brought ghosts and EMPed half the templars before hand. But it doesn't matter because all it takes is 2 storms to completely destroy Terran, where as 2 EMPs with its puny AOE barely scratches Protoss.


What do you think you're accomplishing exactly by posting 5 whining posts per page about storm in a LR thread on a video game forum?

dealwithit.jpg

inner peace and enlightenment?!
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4479
On October 26 2013 11:04 scaban84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:01 liberate71 wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 Highcounsel wrote:
MC is the staple product of sc2, there is not one other player that has been around this long and still winning and winning...just insane and on top of it he has impeccable people skills.


Mvp has, but MC has that charisma that really propels him with the fans.

Mvp's ability to defy all odds and win puts him in the same lofty heights though.

MVP disappeared when HoTS came out


I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4480
On October 26 2013 11:09 Griffith` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:07 Swede wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.


It doesn't matter how good storm is, or that Hack made good decisions up to that point. Hack is aware of the existence of storm and therefore the decision to press in with weak units was poor. Whether or not storm is overpowered is besides the point. Hack wasn't forced into a position where his army being stormed was the only thing that could happen. He chose that risk on his own.


And thats why hack brought ghosts and EMPed half the templars before hand. But it doesn't matter because all it takes is 2 storms to completely destroy Terran, where as 2 EMPs with its puny AOE barely scratches Protoss.


At that point MC had sniped like 8 medivacs over the course of the game. Had to eat storms like Hack was trying to do when you don't have the healing to back it up.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
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