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Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4481
Lol Genius so fun to watch.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4482
On October 26 2013 11:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Group B - Winners Match

kr (P)Genius vs kr (P)Trap

Game 1
Map - Belshir Vestige

00:00- Genius Spawns Top Left Trap Spawns Bottom Right

Oh fuck me PvP, this LR is going to be a giant pile of awful,
WINE!

Don't worry, I will make freaking awesome happen
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TL+ Member
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#4483
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.

That would have looked much different at the start if not for EMP.

Not to mention that it's not like storm was killing a full hp army. Everything had been stimmed twice and been beaten up by the gateway units. The first storm that got like 15 marines killed them all in one tick.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4484
Sorry, I'm drunk. Is Soulkey-Polt played after this or just on a different stream?
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4485
Genius going for fastest void rays possible?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4486
PROXY VOID RAY!!!!! Awww yeah.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4487
On October 26 2013 11:12 ES.Genie wrote:
Sorry, I'm drunk. Is Soulkey-Polt played after this or just on a different stream?

Soulkey vs Polt is tomorrow
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ArchangelJada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4488
Genius loves him his voidrays
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4489
OH SHI--

Genius being Genius
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4490
Gogogo Genius, and do a ceremony pls!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 02:12:57
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4491
On October 26 2013 11:11 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:09 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:07 Swede wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.


It doesn't matter how good storm is, or that Hack made good decisions up to that point. Hack is aware of the existence of storm and therefore the decision to press in with weak units was poor. Whether or not storm is overpowered is besides the point. Hack wasn't forced into a position where his army being stormed was the only thing that could happen. He chose that risk on his own.


And thats why hack brought ghosts and EMPed half the templars before hand. But it doesn't matter because all it takes is 2 storms to completely destroy Terran, where as 2 EMPs with its puny AOE barely scratches Protoss.


At that point MC had sniped like 8 medivacs over the course of the game. Had to eat storms like Hack was trying to do when you don't have the healing to back it up.

ya, hack scv scv, mc weatherman, mc win
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TL+ Member
sleepyguy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States272 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4492
Genius? no it's just voidrays
WE FOKKEN LOST BOYS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4493
Genius is bitter that Trap used his build to beat PartinG. Going to show him how to do it even better
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4494
I love genius so much :p.
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 02:13:39
October 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#4495
On October 26 2013 11:09 Griffith` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:07 Swede wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:04 Griffith` wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:02 dainbramage wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 shockaslim wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:54 dainbramage wrote:
OK terrans.

Supplies even

Terran gets up 60 supply form good EMPs

Protoss equalizes that with good storms, then wins once he gets the upgrade advantage.

Where the hell is the balance whine coming from?


Because it defies all logic of RTS play. You don't just equalize, especially in the middle of a fight, from being 60 supply down. Thats where the balance whine is coming from.


If spells closing a supply lead is bullshit, then spells getting that supply lead must also be bullshit.



Except it wasn't due to spells that created that lead. It was due to baiting in the 3rd, and forcing MC to separate/split his army. It was a great tactical decision by Hack. A pew pew spell that destroys 60 supply in 1 second is not fun.


It doesn't matter how good storm is, or that Hack made good decisions up to that point. Hack is aware of the existence of storm and therefore the decision to press in with weak units was poor. Whether or not storm is overpowered is besides the point. Hack wasn't forced into a position where his army being stormed was the only thing that could happen. He chose that risk on his own.


And thats why hack brought ghosts and EMPed half the templars before hand. But it doesn't matter because all it takes is 2 storms to completely destroy Terran, where as 2 EMPs with its puny AOE barely scratches Protoss.


My point was that Hack didn't even need to go in with his ghosts after he gained that advantage. He obviously saw an opportunity to win right then and there and got too eager. The safest play in that situation was to retreat with his advantage. EMPing half the templars when your units are weak isn't good enough.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 02:13 GMT
#4496
On October 26 2013 11:10 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:08 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I wonder if Incontrol gave everybody a trash talk course before this thing started. What happened to 'i just want to show good games'.

When he tried to coach HerO, HerO just said, "THIRSTY" which looking back on it that is pretty solid trashtalk.

ahahaha i remember that it was so funny at that time


Posted for the lols
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aLt_F4tw
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada47 Posts
October 26 2013 02:13 GMT
#4497
Proxy .., you tricky bastard...
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 26 2013 02:13 GMT
#4498
TRAP SMELLS BLOOD
one of the probes got cut on one of the mineral fields
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 02:13 GMT
#4499
genius says warpgate is for scrubs
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 02:13 GMT
#4500
On October 26 2013 11:11 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 11:04 scaban84 wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:01 liberate71 wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:59 Highcounsel wrote:
MC is the staple product of sc2, there is not one other player that has been around this long and still winning and winning...just insane and on top of it he has impeccable people skills.


Mvp has, but MC has that charisma that really propels him with the fans.

Mvp's ability to defy all odds and win puts him in the same lofty heights though.

MVP disappeared when HoTS came out


I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about

Kudos to you for saying what everyone is thinking.
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