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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 14 2013 22:56 GMT
#281
On October 15 2013 07:50 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:46 geokilla wrote:
Where are the games being played? I didn't know NASL had a live studio. This is so cool.

bump


I think they've just done a little work on their main studio to accomodate the booths and the generally small audience.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 22:57:25
October 14 2013 22:56 GMT
#282
On October 15 2013 07:54 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:50 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:48 Squat wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:46 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:45 Laszx wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:39 Aunvilgod wrote:
ahh I wish they had the money for Husky... But I don't even want to imagine how much you'd have to pay him to cast for your tournament live for one week. Let's play an estimation game. I say $10k for a week, whats your guess?


Husky is a terrible caster; he just yells what he sees happening on the screen. Okay he's a play by play caster but he should still know what's going on strategy wise, right?

he knows enough to accurately describe events. if he's with a good analyst he's a great caster, especially because he always asks questions when he's partnered with someone who knows more than him

he's entertaining, casting is entertainment

I just find him aggravating and obnoxious, not in the least bit entertaining. TB is pretty much the only play by play guy who can be entertaining without having a very deep technical understanding of the game. Screaming youtube casters, ugh.

to each his own, i find totalbiscuit aggravating and obnoxious. "youtube caster" seems like selling short someone who has created as much interest in the game as husky has

The interest is almost completely centered on the Husky persona and has very little to do with the actual game, one of the biggest problems with the game is the personality cults it fosters. It creates a flaccid viewer-base more interested in personalities than the actual game, something extremely prevalent in LoL.

interesting theory but i don't agree or see any evidence for what you're saying

i've been a SC fan since SC1 but i never had the slightest interest in the pro scene before i discovered husky on youtube. he's the reason i know anything about the competitive side of the game and i don't have any interest in games i don't like (like league and hearthstone) that he casts on his channels, so you're wrong based on my experience alone

husky is a funny guy and people like him for that, if he uses his personality to attract people to SC2 that's still a free bonus for the game and the scene
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 22:58:26
October 14 2013 22:57 GMT
#283
On October 15 2013 07:56 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.


Mules.

Also had a 3rd CC building iirc. JD meanwhile hadn't even got his 3rd down, and was stuck with roaches (suck more as the game goes on). He needed to either outright kill or do better damage. Fortunately he did the former.


I didn't see the game but this isn't necessarily true. If he was still only building his 3rd CC but was only 1/2 the worker count, he was definitely behind Jaedong by quite a bit. I'm assuming something like 25 SCVs to 50 drones? Seeing as the above poster said he also had literally no army, Jaedong also has a huge lead due to consistent queen injects leading him to reach his desired worker count by the time Heart hits probably 40 SCVs.

he had an army, it was 25scvs to 40 drones or so
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 14 2013 22:58 GMT
#284
On October 15 2013 07:54 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:50 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:48 Squat wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:46 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:45 Laszx wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:39 Aunvilgod wrote:
ahh I wish they had the money for Husky... But I don't even want to imagine how much you'd have to pay him to cast for your tournament live for one week. Let's play an estimation game. I say $10k for a week, whats your guess?


Husky is a terrible caster; he just yells what he sees happening on the screen. Okay he's a play by play caster but he should still know what's going on strategy wise, right?

he knows enough to accurately describe events. if he's with a good analyst he's a great caster, especially because he always asks questions when he's partnered with someone who knows more than him

he's entertaining, casting is entertainment

I just find him aggravating and obnoxious, not in the least bit entertaining. TB is pretty much the only play by play guy who can be entertaining without having a very deep technical understanding of the game. Screaming youtube casters, ugh.

to each his own, i find totalbiscuit aggravating and obnoxious. "youtube caster" seems like selling short someone who has created as much interest in the game as husky has

The interest is almost completely centered on the Husky persona and has very little to do with the actual game, one of the biggest problems with the game is the personality cults it fosters. It creates a flaccid viewer-base more interested in personalities than the actual game, something extremely prevalent in LoL.

Anyway, calling a 2-1 for Sen, come at me. 2x timings/busts and losing a macro game.

people like personalities whether it's players , casters or who else that have them
Moderatorlickypiddy
RagingDragon
Profile Joined April 2013
United States233 Posts
October 14 2013 22:58 GMT
#285
Make the guy nervous for petes sake lol, Poor Sen. Look at that face.
Fear is the mind-killer.
DannyG
Profile Joined April 2012
Israel85 Posts
October 14 2013 22:58 GMT
#286
wow Sen's English was surprisingly good
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
October 14 2013 22:58 GMT
#287
On October 15 2013 07:56 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.


Mules.

Also had a 3rd CC building iirc. JD meanwhile hadn't even got his 3rd down, and was stuck with roaches (suck more as the game goes on). He needed to either outright kill or do better damage. Fortunately he did the former.


I didn't see the game but this isn't necessarily true. If he was still only building his 3rd CC but was only 1/2 the worker count, he was definitely behind Jaedong by quite a bit. I'm assuming something like 25 SCVs to 50 drones? Seeing as the above poster said he also had literally no army, Jaedong also has a huge lead due to consistent queen injects leading him to reach his desired worker count by the time Heart hits probably 40 SCVs.


Stim bio (particularly a few marauders from even just one tech lab rax) and mules cannot be underestimated.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
October 14 2013 22:59 GMT
#288
Such trash talk!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 14 2013 22:59 GMT
#289
That wasn't awkward by Sen
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 14 2013 22:59 GMT
#290
Why does nobody want to play the Husky estimation game? T_T
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PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
October 14 2013 22:59 GMT
#291
Man that interview was stressful, so much tension
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 14 2013 22:59 GMT
#292
On October 15 2013 07:59 Aunvilgod wrote:
Why does nobody want to play the Husky estimation game? T_T


What's the Husky estimation game?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 14 2013 23:00 GMT
#293
At least the trash talks are better than the games so far.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
October 14 2013 23:00 GMT
#294
On October 15 2013 07:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:54 Squat wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:50 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:48 Squat wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:46 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:45 Laszx wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:39 Aunvilgod wrote:
ahh I wish they had the money for Husky... But I don't even want to imagine how much you'd have to pay him to cast for your tournament live for one week. Let's play an estimation game. I say $10k for a week, whats your guess?


Husky is a terrible caster; he just yells what he sees happening on the screen. Okay he's a play by play caster but he should still know what's going on strategy wise, right?

he knows enough to accurately describe events. if he's with a good analyst he's a great caster, especially because he always asks questions when he's partnered with someone who knows more than him

he's entertaining, casting is entertainment

I just find him aggravating and obnoxious, not in the least bit entertaining. TB is pretty much the only play by play guy who can be entertaining without having a very deep technical understanding of the game. Screaming youtube casters, ugh.

to each his own, i find totalbiscuit aggravating and obnoxious. "youtube caster" seems like selling short someone who has created as much interest in the game as husky has

The interest is almost completely centered on the Husky persona and has very little to do with the actual game, one of the biggest problems with the game is the personality cults it fosters. It creates a flaccid viewer-base more interested in personalities than the actual game, something extremely prevalent in LoL.

Anyway, calling a 2-1 for Sen, come at me. 2x timings/busts and losing a macro game.

people like personalities whether it's players , casters or who else that have them


Its common in all sports. People like personalities/heroes, without necessarily caring much for the actual sport. Someone to root for or tune in to is a constant, while maybe only 1/10 games are good.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
ladysman09
Profile Joined June 2013
237 Posts
October 14 2013 23:00 GMT
#295
Seems like Taiwanese people are better at English seeing as Taeja needed a translator, and he's even on a foreign team. Sen like in a Taiwanese bubble and pretty much never leaves Taiwan unless it's for WCS. Taeja, on the other hand, always goes to foreign tournaments.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
October 14 2013 23:01 GMT
#296
On October 15 2013 07:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:54 Squat wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:50 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:48 Squat wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:46 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:45 Laszx wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:39 Aunvilgod wrote:
ahh I wish they had the money for Husky... But I don't even want to imagine how much you'd have to pay him to cast for your tournament live for one week. Let's play an estimation game. I say $10k for a week, whats your guess?


Husky is a terrible caster; he just yells what he sees happening on the screen. Okay he's a play by play caster but he should still know what's going on strategy wise, right?

he knows enough to accurately describe events. if he's with a good analyst he's a great caster, especially because he always asks questions when he's partnered with someone who knows more than him

he's entertaining, casting is entertainment

I just find him aggravating and obnoxious, not in the least bit entertaining. TB is pretty much the only play by play guy who can be entertaining without having a very deep technical understanding of the game. Screaming youtube casters, ugh.

to each his own, i find totalbiscuit aggravating and obnoxious. "youtube caster" seems like selling short someone who has created as much interest in the game as husky has

The interest is almost completely centered on the Husky persona and has very little to do with the actual game, one of the biggest problems with the game is the personality cults it fosters. It creates a flaccid viewer-base more interested in personalities than the actual game, something extremely prevalent in LoL.

Anyway, calling a 2-1 for Sen, come at me. 2x timings/busts and losing a macro game.

people like personalities whether it's players , casters or who else that have them

Yeah sure, I was just arguing that while Husky certainly has helped the game gain exposure, that in itself is not an a good reason for having him as a caster if there are other people better suited for it available.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 14 2013 23:01 GMT
#297
On October 15 2013 08:00 ladysman09 wrote:
Seems like Taiwanese people are better at English seeing as Taeja needed a translator, and he's even on a foreign team. Sen like in a Taiwanese bubble and pretty much never leaves Taiwan unless it's for WCS. Taeja, on the other hand, always goes to foreign tournaments.


Well, can't necessarily generalize all of Korea and all of Taiwan based off of two people though...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 14 2013 23:01 GMT
#298
No, no, Goswser - TvT is SC2 chess.

TvZ is more... well, I'm not sure.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 14 2013 23:01 GMT
#299
On October 15 2013 07:58 DannyG wrote:
wow Sen's English was surprisingly good


Sen and Gretorp are engaged so that helps out as a healthy relationship is based on communication
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 14 2013 23:01 GMT
#300
It'd be cool if Sen pulled the upset somehow :p

I've liked him since the beginning of WoL
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