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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 14 2013 22:52 GMT
#261
On October 15 2013 07:51 The_Templar wrote:
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On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.

I was wondering about that, Gowswer DID see all the dead SCVs right?

i think goswser just thought jaedong was done putting on aggression right before he nydused back into the natural
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 14 2013 22:52 GMT
#262
On October 15 2013 07:50 geokilla wrote:
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On October 15 2013 07:46 geokilla wrote:
Where are the games being played? I didn't know NASL had a live studio. This is so cool.

bump

it's at their normal studios
http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20130925wcs-america-season-3-premier-league-ro16-at-nasl-studios
Moderatorlickypiddy
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
October 14 2013 22:52 GMT
#263
what music is this?
someone?
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
October 14 2013 22:52 GMT
#264
are there any pictures of the new NASL studio?
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#265
On October 15 2013 07:52 Foxxan wrote:
what music is this?
someone?

Brood War.
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
October 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#266
Gogo Taeja!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 22:53:27
October 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#267
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.

he had 3cc's if jaedong didn't get those other nyduses up heart would have been fine
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AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
October 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#268
On October 15 2013 07:50 geokilla wrote:
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On October 15 2013 07:46 geokilla wrote:
Where are the games being played? I didn't know NASL had a live studio. This is so cool.

bump


liquipedia about location of nasls hq: Rancho Cucamonga, California, USA
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#269
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.


Mules.

Also had a 3rd CC building iirc. JD meanwhile hadn't even got his 3rd down, and was stuck with roaches (suck more as the game goes on). He needed to either outright kill or do better damage. Fortunately he did the former.
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
October 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#270
On October 15 2013 07:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.

I was wondering about that, Gowswer DID see all the dead SCVs right?


Drones can be double scvs as long as the terran has survived. With stim medivacs and bio terran has some great offensive options to make it difficult for zerg to drone up a 3rd and get upgrades whilst the terran gets his eco sorted out. It's not ideal for terran but they can make it work.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#271
it's over 9000
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
October 14 2013 22:54 GMT
#272
On October 15 2013 07:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.

I was wondering about that, Gowswer DID see all the dead SCVs right?


he saw 3cc and the fact that Heart should have defended the Nydus at the nat but didn't
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
October 14 2013 22:54 GMT
#273
wow didnt remember broodwar that epic music.

Btw, where is that other guy who casted last year? Wow he was so good
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 22:55:54
October 14 2013 22:54 GMT
#274
On October 15 2013 07:50 Waise wrote:
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On October 15 2013 07:48 Squat wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:46 Waise wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:45 Laszx wrote:
On October 15 2013 07:39 Aunvilgod wrote:
ahh I wish they had the money for Husky... But I don't even want to imagine how much you'd have to pay him to cast for your tournament live for one week. Let's play an estimation game. I say $10k for a week, whats your guess?


Husky is a terrible caster; he just yells what he sees happening on the screen. Okay he's a play by play caster but he should still know what's going on strategy wise, right?

he knows enough to accurately describe events. if he's with a good analyst he's a great caster, especially because he always asks questions when he's partnered with someone who knows more than him

he's entertaining, casting is entertainment

I just find him aggravating and obnoxious, not in the least bit entertaining. TB is pretty much the only play by play guy who can be entertaining without having a very deep technical understanding of the game. Screaming youtube casters, ugh.

to each his own, i find totalbiscuit aggravating and obnoxious. "youtube caster" seems like selling short someone who has created as much interest in the game as husky has

The interest is almost completely centered on the Husky persona and has very little to do with the actual game, one of the biggest problems with the game is the personality cults it fosters. It creates a flaccid viewer-base more interested in personalities than the actual game, something extremely prevalent in LoL.

Anyway, calling a 2-1 for Sen, come at me. 2x timings/busts and losing a macro game.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 22:55:44
October 14 2013 22:55 GMT
#275
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.


it was 27 scvs vs 40 drones when he said it and the third orbital just finished. heart should have made bunkers galore at natural ramp with 10-12 scv on auto-repair while denying further nydus worms.

JD got extremely lucky imo
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
October 14 2013 22:55 GMT
#276
On October 15 2013 07:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.


Mules.

Also had a 3rd CC building iirc. JD meanwhile hadn't even got his 3rd down, and was stuck with roaches (suck more as the game goes on). He needed to either outright kill or do better damage. Fortunately he did the former.


Mules will not save you when you have no army and Zerg has double drones that you have SCVs. Jaedong could have double expanded easily and Heart could do nothing about it.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 22:55:26
October 14 2013 22:55 GMT
#277
On October 15 2013 07:54 Foxxan wrote:
wow didnt remember broodwar that epic music.

Btw, where is that other guy who casted last year? Wow he was so good

frodan? he left for clauf never to be seen again
Moderatorlickypiddy
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
October 14 2013 22:55 GMT
#278
On October 15 2013 07:54 Foxxan wrote:
wow didnt remember broodwar that epic music.

Btw, where is that other guy who casted last year? Wow he was so good


Frodan? He quit NASL to pursue other esports related business. idk what he's doing now. Maybe you could follow his twitter or something.
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 14 2013 22:56 GMT
#279
Yeah he would have been fine if JD had pulled back. Strange he didnt manage to shut down the 2nd nydus, im sure he is pretty pissed at himself.

Looking forward to seeing what Taejas tvz looks like. Pretty scary I would think ^^
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
October 14 2013 22:56 GMT
#280
On October 15 2013 07:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 07:51 Applesmack wrote:
Gowser was just completely wrong when he said that Heart was in a better position after he managed to hold off the roaches in the main base. Heart was completely crippled with his economy in the toilet and almost no army to speak of. He was as dead as can be. Drones doubled SCVs.


Mules.

Also had a 3rd CC building iirc. JD meanwhile hadn't even got his 3rd down, and was stuck with roaches (suck more as the game goes on). He needed to either outright kill or do better damage. Fortunately he did the former.


I didn't see the game but this isn't necessarily true. If he was still only building his 3rd CC but was only 1/2 the worker count, he was definitely behind Jaedong by quite a bit. I'm assuming something like 25 SCVs to 50 drones? Seeing as the above poster said he also had literally no army, Jaedong also has a huge lead due to consistent queen injects leading him to reach his desired worker count by the time Heart hits probably 40 SCVs.
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