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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 18 2013 19:48 GMT
#561
On September 19 2013 04:45 TaishiCi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 04:42 NarutO wrote:
On September 19 2013 04:40 Prevolved wrote:
On September 19 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
Maybe you guys can explain what happens to Terran when our 2 base allin doesn't work and now please don't get me started on how that was no 2 base allin/timing from Stardust. Anyways, GGs!

Why everytime I see you post it is balance whine? relax man. kas ate those storms and missed his timing, he could have smashed SD if he had gone before storm, i also didn't see a single ghost with his army even though kas had the ghost academy for a good little while.


That was not the point. I don't think he lost because of balance, but the point is after a failed 2 base allin you should be dead. I believe Kas could have went right after, but you will still need to fight against possible photon overcharge and a new colossus. Especially in a defensive position Protoss is very strong. Ofcourse the right thing to do would have been add ghost and let Stardust take his 3rd and engage with ghosts after, but sometimes you feel a 50 supply advantage should do it.


All-in isn't really good description of that pressure. It was just an aggression by StarDust.
Plus killing 30+ scvs while retaining majority of the gateway units should be solid damage.
7 gate or immortal bust that is more like an all-in.


Blinkstalker / Colossus timing is essentially as allin as it gets. Reference HerO vs INnoVation on Akilon... (just one example) It didn't even get demolished because HerO didn't commit to it as he saw INnoVation was prepared, proceeded to lose horribly against an scv pull.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 19:49:42
September 18 2013 19:48 GMT
#562
Genius, MC, Duckdeok and Stardust in same group. Make it happen.

Nvm. This aint possible.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
September 18 2013 19:49 GMT
#563
On September 19 2013 04:46 Cheren wrote:
Why did Kas try to drop StarDust when he saw StarDust was doing a 2-base build? Why be that aggressive when the protoss isn't taking a third?


When Protoss aren't taking their 3rd at a normal time, it's difficult to tell if it's because your pressure is working, they're choosing to play safe or if it's 2 base timing. A protoss on a bunch of gates, forge + colossus + twilight looks pretty normal.

I'd argue that if you try to keep dropping when they have blink stalkers though you'll get hurt (kas lost 2 full medivacs for basically no reason after he knew SD was on blinks). But I am a cautious player myself so idk.
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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
September 18 2013 19:49 GMT
#564
On September 19 2013 04:48 DaCruise wrote:
Genius, MC, Duckdeok and Stardust in same group. Make it happen.


Duckdeok #1 easy
Stardust #4

Grunge match MC vs Genius.
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
September 18 2013 19:49 GMT
#565
On September 19 2013 04:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On September 19 2013 04:41 Xoronius wrote:
This is so frustrating;
Naniwa 3:2 TargA -> TargA advances
LucifroN 3:2 Starbuck -> Starbuck advances
Kas 2:2 Stardust -> Stardust advances.

Everyone I root for gets eliminated, because games are played in the "wrong order". Pls ESL, just get rid of this system and bring round robin back.


more like the players you root for can't play under pressure. The system is completely fine. If you can beat some one then why can't you beat them again? Oh it's because of the nerves ^^ Something that sadly stops a lot of players from becoming elite


Should´nt skill be higher rewarded than nerves? If you let this group play out normally, Kas probably beats Firecake, MC probably beats SD and MC/Kas make it out without any debate. In this system you have 2 players go 2:2 against eachother and one of them advances, because his opponent, who rolled him in a normal game, has nerve issues.
padiseal2
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria721 Posts
September 18 2013 19:49 GMT
#566
On September 19 2013 04:45 Schelim wrote:
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On September 19 2013 04:42 Popkiller wrote:
On September 19 2013 04:41 Schelim wrote:
On September 19 2013 04:41 Popkiller wrote:
On September 19 2013 04:40 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 19 2013 04:39 Popkiller wrote:
Hoping ForGG, MC, and duckeok are all in one group. Is that possible?

Just out of curiosity why do you hope this?


So one of them is guaranteed not to advance, which would help pave the way for MMA to get into the top 16.

he's already in the top 16. i think you mean the top 8.


top 16 WCS points for blizzcon.

oh that's right, i forgot about that. does MMA have a decent chance? how far off is he?

He's currently sitting at rank 21 with 2050 points while rank 16 has 400 points more. So very possible for him to get in that top 16
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
September 18 2013 19:49 GMT
#567
sick same ro16 racial distribution as last season 8 p 4 t 4 z
yo
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 18 2013 19:51 GMT
#568
TargA is screwed
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46406 Posts
September 18 2013 19:51 GMT
#569
On September 19 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
Maybe you guys can explain what happens to Terran when our 2 base allin doesn't work and now please don't get me started on how that was no 2 base allin/timing from Stardust. Anyways, GGs!


I think what you should do is clump all your bio units as much as possible and then sit in half a dozen psi storms, especially when you have worse upgrades.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 18 2013 19:51 GMT
#570
somewhere, Targa is getting himself a tissue right now
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 18 2013 19:51 GMT
#571
That's not a scary group.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 18 2013 19:51 GMT
#572
On September 19 2013 04:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
Maybe you guys can explain what happens to Terran when our 2 base allin doesn't work and now please don't get me started on how that was no 2 base allin/timing from Stardust. Anyways, GGs!


I think what you should do is clump all your bio units as much as possible and then sit in half a dozen psi storms, especially when you have worse upgrades.


That sounds like a game I would play.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 18 2013 19:52 GMT
#573
wtf where is the drawing?
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
September 18 2013 19:52 GMT
#574
Group B pretty nice.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 18 2013 19:52 GMT
#575
On September 19 2013 04:45 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 04:43 NarutO wrote:
On September 19 2013 04:42 Sated wrote:
On September 19 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
Maybe you guys can explain what happens to Terran when our 2 base allin doesn't work and now please don't get me started on how that was no 2 base allin/timing from Stardust. Anyways, GGs!

If the Protoss played as badly as Kas just did, then the Terran would win. That's what happens when you play badly; you lose.

Stop balance whining in LR threads.


Funny coming from you. Also funny comment on the game we just saw. 2 base allin completely missed its timing, got crushed. Applying your comment there, should have lost.

The better player won, whether the better player played well or not is irrelevant. Kas only held that all-in at the cost of a tonne of SCVs, or did you forget about that? In any case, you only need to beat what is put in front of you, and Kas played that out worse than Stardust did. Hence he loses.

As for "funny coming from you", I know for a fact that if I made even one of your balance whine posts I'd be on my way to Disneyland; must be nice having the mods ignore you :3

Stop balance whining in LR threads.


Its no balance whine. I pointed out multiple times that I believe Kas lost due to his mistakes of not going into the macro game. I might still adress that I feel a Terran should be able to push into Protoss while defending the allin. While it cost him a lot of scvs, he had enough economy (especially with 3orbitals) to sustain his production for an okay period of time, at least until his economy kicks in again.

He went right over to Stardust and denied the 3rd base but you still cannot push into a choke of Protoss. Its suicide. Thats what I dislike. But you can go ahead and point out what this has to do with balance. Mods don't ignore me actually, but they simply choose to not put words in my mouth
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 18 2013 19:52 GMT
#576
MC vs Thorzain???? that's some classic rematch type shit
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
September 18 2013 19:52 GMT
#577
On September 19 2013 04:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
wtf where is the drawing?

its kinda complicated and looks aweful when done live, ... i think :D
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 18 2013 19:52 GMT
#578
Whatever group duckdeok gets is the group of death, he's by far the strongest of the 2nd place finishers.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 18 2013 19:52 GMT
#579
Wow, that's a group !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46406 Posts
September 18 2013 19:53 GMT
#580
Group B >>> Group A.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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